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Re: "Atheism and Rabid Atheism"
@yingfan
I do know about the experiment.
Cat in the box, radiating decaying stuff in a llittle chamber, once system detects particle, cat dies. If not, cat doesn't.
However, the first measurement already took place inside that box when the detector happened to register the decay.
So it is already measured.
Oct 31 · 7 weeks ago
🚀 stack [OP] · Oct 31 at 02:21:
Another total miss. Exactly not what the experiment is.
I think he is a troll -- no one can be wrong that often and insist on blabbering on and on!
🌲 Total_FLOSS [mod] · Oct 31 at 02:22:
@stack just shut up, I litterally destroyed your "not disprovable" tought experiment.
@stack,
Also, keep in mind that I added GRAVITY in the picture. I'm not as stupid as you.
@stack and if you didn't realize, I was oversimplifying the experiment cuz I don't want to spell it out in details.
@yingfan oh yeah norse mythology has like a tree with branches to 9 planets or something.
🚀 stack [OP] · Oct 31 at 02:46:
Oh my god. What universe do you live in? I am putting you on my shitlist so I don't have to get notified with your nonsense.
🐦 wasolili [...] · Oct 31 at 02:49:
old man in cloud is a caricature
to be extremely pedantic: Exodus does depict god as being in a cloud at times (such as describing his gab sessions with moses with something like "a cloud descends upon the tent and God goes in and talks face to face with Moses). elsewhere in the pentateuch God is described as basically just some dude (like when renames Jacob to Israel), and god is obviously older than anyone else, so "god is sometimes an old guy in a cloud" is a biblically accurate statement.
of course floss is being unfairly simplistic by reducing God to "just an old guy in a cloud" so stack's underlying point still stands. (this pedantic comment is motivated solely by the "I recently read some of an annotated scholar's bible and must share that pain with others" foundation)
schrodinger's cat
the whole cat thing is a joke. literally. schrodinger never meant "the cat is both alive and dead." he meant "people who misunderstand quantum mechanics would say the cat is both alive and dead, but that's wrong and absurd, come on class, lets laugh about it"
that is ironically misinterpreted by people trying to pretend to be more knowledgeable than they are is some grade a irony
as for the broader topic at hand: I'm in line with stack's OP. I'm an atheist but I mostly don't care.
as for all the talk "disproving" religion: Total_FLOSS, you are objectively wrong to think you can disprove theism. Most theistic belief systems are based on unfalsifiable premises. for example: i worship a deity that i named Cooler Satan, and Cooler Satan's whole thing is that he's a diety who makes no effects on anything that people can observe. prove he doesn't exist. or maybe go for a challenge that's even more straightforward: prove to me that nobody whistled the first 8 measures of Giant Steps at any point in the year 200a.d.
but the good news is that you don't need to disprove religion. you're getting hung up on semantics arguments about logic/proof/"reality" and that always just ends up at "you can't know anything for sure"
you really only need to focus on whether or not a conclusion is well reasoned. for example, it's reasonable to believe nobody whistled Giant Steps in 200 a.d. because the melody is unique and theres no records of sinilar melodies from pre 200ad, so it'sezceptionally unlikely someone just happened to whistle the exact tune by chance. it's not disproven, but it's unreasonable to believe it happened.
Atheism and Rabid Atheism — I consider myself an atheist. My position needs no defending or preaching. I can see benefits of blindly believing in a higher power of some sort, as well as the obvious dangers of the "God made me do it" excuse. It is always a disappointment when someone I admire go full mental on the subject. You can't use reason on those who blindly believe. As for the evil of religion... If you look carefully, the real harm comes from _rabid_ interpretation, and the act of...