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Comment by ๐Ÿ‘ป darkghost

Re: "Welcome to EMobility"

In: s/emobility

@stack Here is another perspective that I find interesting. In summary, it speaks about what ship insurers think about the issue of EV battery fires. On a ship, there is nowhere to go that's safe, so how do you manage risk when transporting hundreds of these cars? It acknowledges they burn hotter, longer, and can't be deprived of oxygen but insurers generally view fires as happening less frequently.

โ€” Maritime Magazine on EV fires

๐Ÿ‘ป darkghost

Dec 10 ยท 7 days ago

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๐Ÿš€ stack ยท Dec 10 at 15:56:

@darkghost - thank you for the link.

At the risk of appearing paranoid... EVs are not viable economically without major state subsidies. Everyone in the manufacturing/distribution chain is paid off.

I'd be surprised if a major segment of the supply chain is not quietly incentivized to downplay certain inconvenient risks.

Virgin batteries may be safer than banged up ones, although I believe the FedEx jet that went down a while ago was carrying new batteries...

๐Ÿš€ stack ยท Dec 10 at 20:34:

โ€” https://www.nyc.gov/site/fdny/news/Y40203/fdny-warns-lithium-ion-batteries-now-leading-cause-fires-fire-deaths-new-york

Several hundred fires per year and growing -- usually severe and hard to extinguish -- are linked to evs, in NYC mostly scooters and ebikes, stored and charged indoors.

๐Ÿ‘ป darkghost ยท Dec 10 at 22:04:

Oh these scooters and E-Bikes terrify me. There are so many shady products for sale in this space.

๐Ÿธ HanzBrix [OP/mod] ยท Dec 10 at 22:38:

@stack @darkghost Yeah there is a bit of a problem with the regulation and quality of ebikes and escooters. In europe there are laws requiring bike helmets and only allowed to ride fast in specific zones, but sadly I still think the police look the other way, they generally do with a lot of safety stuff.

Escooters also have a problem with a huge surge in severe head injures caused by them, partly because people use them without helmets, but mostly because the tiny wheels make them prone to tipping accidents, ejecting the driver forward. I know voi and others have been removed from cities as they were considered health risks.

It's why we need new ideas!

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Welcome to EMobility โ€” So I have seen us have a lot of talks about how dumb most BEV's are, so I figured we should have a subspace for it! ๐Ÿ˜ Just how dumb are BEV's In reality we are talking BEC's (battery electric cars) here, cos BEV's as concept aren't stupid and have been used for a lot of things for decades, from Golf carts to factory ground trucks. BEC's problem, is them being 2T iPhone's. When research has shown passenger occupancy ~1,6 people. Realistically, if you are a big person, that...

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