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Comment by đź‘» darkghost

Re: "How can Gemini attract consistent activity?"

In: s/Critical_Mass

here's a killer application of Gemini: there is no algorithm deciding what it thinks he would like. Anything you access is your decision to seek out. Once you get there there are no dark patterns trying to keep you on a consumptive treadmill. If I really wanted to sell it I would argue that there is a freedom of thought that emerges from these aspects. While it is feasible that somebody could program an algorithm and these dark patterns that keep you on the consumptive treadmill, the tech hobbles it from being as effective.

đź‘» darkghost

Nov 28 · 3 weeks ago

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💎 pista · Nov 28 at 04:55:

That’s what the World Wide Web was before YOU became the product.

Even search engines in the days of Lycos and Webcrawler were closer to how Kennedy works.

👻 shikitohno · Nov 28 at 05:10:

I'm not convinced it makes sense to approach this from a non-ideological point of view. As I see it, Gemini is fundamentally ideological, created as it was in response to issues with the internet as it exists over other protocols, http in particular. You can't, in my opinion, avoid a certain level of ideology in expanding it without losing some of what makes it special.

I think the effort might be better spent in improving ease of use and user-experience for those who are already interested. Things like ease of discovering content you're interested in beyond randomly stumbling upon it come to mind. That said, I don't see any pressing need to try and speed up this process, myself.

💎 pista · Nov 28 at 05:12:

To my thinking, Gemini’s base value is a very simple document format that supports linking and is designed to prevent design from getting in the way of content.

All value beyond that is what people come here and create.

If that doesn’t grab someone’s attention, he/she probably won’t fit in around here. Chasing “critical mass” is a mistake because this is a place for people to build, not to consume.

👻 darkghost · Nov 28 at 18:30:

I think this is a big appeal. Building and not consuming. And the nostalgia that tickles in people harkens to an early web that was still very much in a building phase.

💎 pista · Nov 28 at 23:24:

It can be. But we have to come here and make things for here.

Halfassed Web to gemini conversions with no thoughts given to document structure or navigation will just pollute everything as bad as AI content would.

Who is saying, “I can’t wait to get on gemini to read the exact same content I see on the web, but with a screwed up document structure and no pictures”?

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How can Gemini attract consistent activity? — Beyond the sliver of early adopters and enthusiasts who are drawn to Gemini for experimental- or ideological reasons, what practical value could Gemini offer the average internet user? Can we come up with something tangible and non-ideological that can actually be felt by the user, to the point where it would give them a reason to use Gemini over other platforms? The one argument that I can think of is that Gemini offers respite from the...

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