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If anybody here is European please consider siging this initiative: https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home.
To learn more about it you can visit this website: https://www.stopkillinggames.com/.
Basically, it's goal is to find a solution to a problem where companies design games that rely on central servers to run, then after some period of time (after companies stop making profits) they disable that central server - leaving people unable to play games they paid for. Also, this video gives a longer, better explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUAX0gnZ3Nw&list=PL6PNZBb6b9Lv3ZUSQvvtATkSlSXlZY6Oi&index=25.
3 months ago · 👍 bavarianbarbarian, m0xee
https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home
https://www.stopkillinggames.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUAX0gnZ3Nw&list=PL6PNZBb6b9Lv3ZUSQvvtATkSlSXlZY6Oi&index=25
@captainrantcraft GaaS are not sold as services, they are sold as goods. That has already been answered in videos that I posted. 1) You could buy The Crew boxed CD for a single time charge. That’s like buying a “good”. 2) With a “service” you know exactly when you stop getting the “service” - when you stop paying for it. That’s why subscription games like WoW are perfectly fine - because you know exactly when you will stop being able to play the game. That is: when you stop paying for it. With The Crew you had no clue *when* you would stop being able to play it. You just bought a CD - and now you can’t play. · 3 months ago
@five_over_four […] I’m not trying to be a d*ick. That’s not why I came to Small Web and Gemini. But it’s hard to convey tone of voice and attitude in a plaintext :). I merely want to spread a message, that’s all. I don’t expect anybody to care about it. But I want to assure you - most of the questions you have already have been answered better than I could ever answer them. If you really have questions and really want to learn more - please watch videos I linked. But I can’t and don’t expect you to do any of it, of course. :) · 3 months ago
@five_over_four LONG ANSWER: The fact that you ask that means that you are not familiar with the problem which is PERFECTLY FINE. I made another post here on station recently: gemini://station.martinrue.com/alexlevi/a1383a90ddac409e8ee03cd497910cc7. I personally don’t enjoy engaging in conversations with people who are not familiar with problems at hand because they ask questions that were already answered better than I ever could answer them and it wastes everybody’s time me trying to give answers. If you are interested in engaging in conversation please familiarize yourself with the problem first by watching the series of videos I linked. But of course you don’t have to. [..] · 3 months ago
gemini://station.martinrue.com/alexlevi/a1383a90ddac409e8ee03cd497910cc7
@five_over_four TLDR: Nobody is asking to keep servers running forever. SKG movement asks to leave games which people paid for in a reasonably playable state. · 3 months ago
@alexlevi just, what legal basis is there that a company should need to support a live service product forever? i can't ask netflix to reimburse me if a series goes off air or spotify if they stop licensing something, and so forth. just wonder how they're going to justify it... and yeah it might be somewhere in the >1 hour video. · 3 months ago
Games are sold more as a service these days (just read the Valve/Steam fine print). Not as a good like back in the boxed software days. I just choose to be very critical of any new games coming out. See if they a) work at all, b) are just a DLC platform and c) get released on a more consumer friendly platform like for example GOG. But even then games becoming obsolete is not a new problem. Getting an old DOS game to work can still be quite a challenge despite great modern tooling. In the end it's all about making concious decisions on which games to avoid due to evil practices and which ones to support. I doubt this petition will do anything :-/ · 3 months ago
@five_over_four There are definitely various edge cases out there. If that is the case then it’s company’s fault for designing their games that way. However, there are people who were able to resurrect NFS World’s server from scratch: https://nightriderz.world. If something like this is possible then I think a company should be able to create a server for people. And if not then there is always an option of refunding people for rendering their purchases bricked :). · 3 months ago
i've seen lots of talk about this. i can get behind it, except in the edge cases like MMORPGs where providing the tools for servers etc. might be infeasible. sure, i'll sign it. · 3 months ago