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The SD brownshirts here in Sweden seem to think hard discipline is the cure for gang criminals. Thatâs the opposite of what they need. The gang world is already one of fear and obedience.
SD har lÀmnat in en motion om sÀrlagstiftning mot gÀngkriminella.
I motionen föreslÄs bland annat utegÄngsförbud kvÀllstid, obligatorisk fotboja och möjlighet att lÄsa in gÀngkriminella i förebyggande syfte. FÀngelsestandarden: lÀgsta möjliga.
För unga gĂ€ngkriminella som fyllt 15 Ă„r föreslĂ„s förflyttning frĂ„n skola till uppfostringsanstalt dĂ€r »militĂ€rdisciplin« rĂ„der och dagarna Ă€gnas Ă„t arbete. GĂ€ngkriminella under 15 Ă„r ska gĂ„ pĂ„ pliktskolor med »hĂ„rd disciplin«. I grova fall, som mord, ska en 15âĂ„ring kunna fĂ„ livstids fĂ€ngelse.
âLocked up precautionarilyâ?!
Of course itâs âdo as I say, not as I doâ since their own leader is palling around with gang leaders.
Jimmie à kesson (SD) hÀvdar fortsatt att han inte kÀnde till att en av hans bröllopsgÀster hade kopplingar till den kriminella mc-miljön. Trots att partikollegor kÀnde till uppgifterna.
That reminds me of this exchange from Checkmate, Lincolnites:
Billy Yank: You mentioned Shayâs rebellion which is a perfect example of what Pinkney was talking about here. In 1786, a year before the constitutional convention, Massachusetts raised taxes to insanely high levels.
Johnny Reb: What a shocker⊠đ
Billy Yank: Under the articles of confederation, the state government was basically unaccountable and these taxes disproportionately affected the very poor. When they inevitably couldnât pay, the state seized their homes. So, led by a veteran named Daniel Shays, they picked up their guns and went down to their county seat to physically prevent the courts from issuing further foreclosure orders.
Johnny Reb: Sounds like a bunch of troublemaking freeloaders, looking for a handout⊠đ
Billy Yank: They were white.
Johnny Reb: Brave rebels! The tree of liberty must be watered by the blood of patriots! đ«Ą
Wasnât it KINDA About STATESâ RIGHTS?!?!?!?!?!?!?! - YouTube
SDâs policies are built around the wrong-headed idea that The Other isnât like us, that we never need to try to imagine ourselves ending up in those hard discipline camps, that if there ever were any white gang leaders theyâd instead be invited to our weddings.
The other take Iâve been on the last few years, that the fachosâ âharsher punishmentsâ, âharder tacticsâ line is not the answer, Iâm still on that. That shouldâve been my take from the beginning. Those harsher punishments are not evidence-based, they donât help you catch the shooters, and they increase alienation since they target immigrants specifically.
Donât get me wrong here. Iâm not judging SDâs leader for his wedding guests. Iâd be in a fragile glass house if we were judged by our connections to friends and fam. One of my partners is literally Dracula, but everyone knows Iâm my own person.
The point isnât exactly the hypocrisy eitherâIâve made my own fair share of mistakesâalthough thatâs closer to the main point which is that their brutal policy proposals are based on a dehumanized view of the people they think theyâre dealing with while in reality these perps are actually real people, as is evidenced by how they can also be wedding guests, which is why I brought that connection up.
Jesper wrote in, saying:
I think the desire for a harder, more authoritarian, state is the primary desire for the fascist sympathisers. Itâs not that they actually think it will reduce crime: their attitude to crime is that they are happy for it, and happy for anything else that gives them excuses for more authority, more enforcement.
Thatâs definitively how it comes across, but part of that perception is teleologic bias (i.e. how we tend to think things are more âby designâ or âon purposeâ than they are).
My own take is that fascism has since its original conception in 1920s Italy been designed to twist the political cleavage point away from worker vs owner and towards other splits like straight vs gay or citizen vs ganger or antivaxx vs medicine in order for the rich to get richer and keep the exploitation machine churning. Wedge issues.
(And in before it seems like Iâm committing the same âitâs by designâ teleology: the initial idea for fascism being an arena twist was by design, but the sickening success of fascism lately has been emergent since it has been such an efficient fit to the parameters of political discourse and the needs of those already in power. I grew up in the era where liberalism was the enemy to our progressive anarchopunk bread distros but these days liberalism is a jokeâthe lie that âcapitalism is good actuallyâ has become increasingly hard to swallow as the market failures are on full display for all, so the rich has turned to promoting outright fascism instead, along with how it promotes itself because itâs just a well-fitting misthought for our circumstances right now.)
When I was young, socialist hegemony was (or appeared to be) the biggest threat, and then the owners pretended to be liberals: they wanted to lower taxes because that meant more âfreedomâ. Now they stopped talking about freedom but they still want to lower taxes. What they are using now is a popular desire for authoritarianism.
Right, exactly. Thatâs what I was trying to say, too.
But they didnât invent it, they are just using it. [âŠ] Economically powerful people are just often able to fish out and use parts of rising movements to their advantage.
Yeah, that was also what I was trying to say. Itâs an emergent âevolutionaryâ consequence of systems. Right wing used to be an incompatible mix of âfreedomâ and âconservatismâ where they cherry picked whatever they needed to make the rich richer (or rather, thereâs not always a teleological âtheyâ but ideas that made the rich richer are evolutionary a good fit for a corrupt system where money increases power).
I donât think fascism was originally designed for what you say, I donât think it was designed at all. It was a messy cluster of new and/or radical ideas.
While this is a trivia point so tangential to the main points we agree on, I guess I shouldâve clarified that I meant corporatism specifically, which sought to sidestep class conflicts. Which sort of lives on in the tripartite system that workers suffer under here in Sweden.
Sertaç writes in:
Clara Matteiâs âThe Capital Orderâ elaborately shows the process in Italy and Britain, pointing at the concrete âtheyâ, and that it was not a mere âconsequence of systemsâ.
I would call it âdesignedâ â albeit stochastically.