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There oughta be more BBSes on Gemini. I don't mean copies of this capsule, I mean actual BBSes (dial-in or telnet) that also have a Gemini frontend. Log in, check messages and new files, play a door game or two, check your favourite FidoNet echoes.
Dec 06 · 12 days ago · 👍 johano
Isn't that a catch 22? There can't really be BBS' on Gemini and it having a Gemini frontend would make it not a BBS?
I would love to experience the BBS era though, doing remote connections and navigating ASCii menus.
☯️ dragfyre [OP] · Dec 06 at 02:42:
@HansBrix I mean, some BBSes offer both dialup and telnet access. SDF offers just about every method of access you can think of. So it's not that big of a stretch - the main challenges would be deploying and maintaining the technology. It would be especially nice to see interoperability, i.e. being able to access many of the regular BBS functions through Gemini as well as through the other methods.
@dragfyre I think you'll still run into limitations of Gemtext and client support fairly quickly. At least if you want to do some of the more advanced BBS stuff of olde.
🎵 alice-sur-le-nuage · Dec 06 at 10:45:
Dial-in is interesting because it bypasses the Internet infrastructure. Not sure I see the point of telnet if it's then going to run Gemini, you can just run gemini on port 1965 as usual.
@alice-sur-le-nuage Is dialup even still possible? I live in a newer area and we don't even have copper, we barely have cable.
🎵 alice-sur-le-nuage · Dec 06 at 16:40:
@HanzBrix well you could still do dialup over a mobile phone I guess ? It means you're not directly dependent on DNS or IP. Still dependent on some infrastructure of course - I'm not suggesting it's a good idea, I was just wondering in the context of this thread whether there would be a point to Gemini over dialup.
@alice-sur-le-nuage It may not be an entirely dumb idea. A lot of people have unlimited talk, but not unlimited data. Maybe there is something there? Of all things, Gemini should run fine over a 128k connection. 😂
You could still run Telnet as well as Gemini (and possibly other protocols such as NNTP, IRC, SSH, etc). This is separate of whether or not you will also have a telephone number to provide access.
With a real dialup connection or via SSH, you do not need Gemini's encryption... may as well use one of the simpler sister protocols.
I think there are issues with modems over VoiP (and modern cell phones) due to the compression used. I’d expect it is possible to make something work but I don’t think you will approach the speeds that were possible the over metal.
@pista one would definitely need some sort of custom hardware, with a phone modem in it and then there would still be the hurdle that proper mobile phone lines don't exist anymore. We have some partial stuff with 3G, but that is going away soon. Then we will only have VoIP like calling, cos LTE (called 4G) and 5G are data only technologies.
So the whole idea might even be futile, as it is basically data anyway, so just using data makes more sense. 😂
You could rig up your router to throttle to 300bps if you feel particularly masochistic
Security though obscurity. Encrypt your data, encode your data within voice, encode the voice to data.
@pista Seems like a lot of work, for something that really isn't dialup at that point. 😂