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clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
[Misfin-Server] Misfin-Server Update 0.5.9c β * More advanced threading system - threads now take into account the participants. A change in participants creates a new thread. * Reply links on gemini mail interface. * Misfin links now use new "misfin:" format (rather than "misfin://") You can install misfin-server here, for Windows and Linux: ...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
Misfin-Server v0.5.8c Update β ...
2024-10-09 2 replies Β· Last updated by clseibold@auragem.letz.dev
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
Open Archive Link β I wanted to let existing subscribers know that you can always visit the archive of previous gemmails sent to this mailinglist at the link below: Future subscription confirmation gemmails will include the archive link for mailinglists with the archive set to open or subs in the upcoming v0.5.8c of my misfin-server software. Thanks for reading, Christia...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
Fixes to Misfinmail and Misfin-server β I have made some fixes to misfinmail and misfin server: * misfinmail no longer puts the port in the SNI ServerName field. * misfin-server will accept SNI ServerName fields with the port or without, just in case someone else messes this up like I did * "[" is properly escaped in gembox files. Please update if you use misfinmail, misfin-server, or the mi...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
[Misfin-Server] Update 0.5.6c β Hello all! I have released version 0.5.6c of misfin-server! Here's a brief changelog: * Max Concurrent Connections limit (defaults to 2000) * IP-based rate-limiting (defaults to 225 ms, or 50 ms for client certs that have mailboxes on the server) * New Gembox format * Partial GMAP support - fetch in new gembox format, get messages based on ID, tag and ...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
Federated Mailinglist Looping Fixed β The looping that resulted in duplicated messages within federated mailinglists has been fixed in the latest update to misfin-server (commit bc0ae64e0cbcc05771826e1c92c9f342a9124225). As soon as everyone updates, there should be no more problems with duplicate messages. - Christian Seibold ...
2024-02-06 1 replies Β· Last updated by clseibold@auragem.letz.dev
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
Misfin Mailinglist Federation β As satch has already mentioned, we have both setup a federated mailinglist between our servers. The idea is that a server has a two-way sub with another server on the federation, preferably with the same mailinglist name. This allows both servers to forward to each other messages that each mailinglist gets. For this to work, both mailinglists must ...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
The federated Misfin mailinglist is here! β Satch, I got your message that you send to your mailinglist (misfin@satch.xyz). Looks like the federation is working, since it successfully forwarded to my mailinglist and then got sent to all subs of misfin@auragem.letz.dev This message is being sent to misfin@auragem.letz.dev, so you should receive it via your mailinglist. - Christian Lee Seibold ...
2024-02-06 1 replies Β· Last updated by clseibold@auragem.letz.dev
Re: The federated Misfin mailinglist is here! β That is indeed what has happened. Federation is working in both directions! ...
The federated Misfin mailinglist is here! β Hopefully everything is working and my message makes the rounds :) ...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
Update to Mailinglist to Prevent Senders List Spoofing β To prevent senders list spoofing where a person sends a message to a mailinglist with spoofed senders already attached, mailinglists no longer allow mails to be forwarded to them. This means you can send a mail to a mailinglist as long as it's not a forward of someone else's mail. - Christian Lee Seibold (aka. clseibold) ...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
Re: [Misfin Server] Proposal: Automatically load new users into runing misfin-servers β Hello jmjl. Sorry I am just now seeing your message. The intention was always for me to finish off the misfin server that I created, but I got sidetracked, and then started making a new server implementation that hasn't been released. It was always the plan to add some way of adding new users without restarting the server. I will implement this as ...
jmjl@tilde.green (JuliΓ‘n Marcos)
Re: Re: misfin gemini server β Replying to Christian Lee Seibold (clseibold@auragem.letz.dev): You could implement titan and allow the user to upload the user cert if they want to send misfin messages via this webmail interface, that might be neat. ...
jmjl@tilde.green (JuliΓ‘n Marcos)
[Misfin Server] Proposal: Automatically load new users into runing misfin-servers β From my last experiences with misfin-server, I have seen that after I create a new user, I have to restart misfin-server for it to be recognized by the server. This is an issue for me, as I would not mind having a automated program create a account, but making it also be able to restart misfin-server, so that my users, tilde.green users (~green is a...
falschdenker@mlupo.ddns.net (falschdenker)
testing my misfin server β Just testing misfinmail I am now running my own server on my pi zero! ...
steve@k0stk.ddns.net (Steve K0STK)
[No Subject] β Testing python client w/ v3.7 as requested at gemini://bbs.geminispace.org/u/gemalaya/6328 ...
mail@supernovas.space (Supernova)
Mail client v 0.4.5 β Hi Christian, I just installed the newest version, and reset the timestamp for the last fetch and then added back the ~ to my conf file. I ran a successful 'fetch', and now we will see if this mail will successfully send! ...
2023-10-07 1 replies Β· Last updated by mail@supernovas.space
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
Re: Mail client v 0.4.5 β Yep! It sent! I'm glad you got it working now!! - Christian ...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
Gemini-Misfin Access Protocol (GMAP) β Misfin handles the transfering of messages, but I feel we might need a protocol that handles managing stored messages on a server. I am starting this thread to consider a new protocol called GMAP that will act similarly to POP3/POP4 for simplicity. I feel that IMAP is well-covered by servers implementing their own Gemini Mail Interface, so we can d...
2023-10-05 2 replies Β· Last updated by clseibold@auragem.letz.dev
satya@tntsek.com (Satya Benson)
Re: Gemini-Misfin Access Protocol (GMAP) β I just read clseibold's message from this morning, sorry I missed it in my first mail. My issue with the IMAP model being only available on the geminimail interface is a minor one, namely that it requires clients themselves implement sending functionality and is a little less convenient than having a dedicated client. Of course, a dedicated client u...
satya@tntsek.com (Satya Benson)
Imitate IMAP or POP3? β I think it is important that local changes are synced with the server, or at least that this is an option. This is because I have multiple computers and a phone, and I don't want to keep track of which messages I've read separately on each device. Speaking of which, I think misfin clients should be designed with the Inbox Zero philosophy, in that th...
satya@tntsek.com (Satya Benson)
[No Subject] β I don't have much time to write at the moment but I think the IMAP model is much better than the POP3 model. This is primarily because of multiple devices, and also for sanity reasons - I want to be able to know that all my messages are being stored on the server without nessarily having to keep all of them on my local computer all of the time. ...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
Re: misfin gemini server β Yeah, the misfin spec was made so that you could host multiple protocols over the same port. I think it was in one of the misfin docs where lem suggests that you could run a gemini server that acts as a "webmail"/geminimail interface for the misfin server. You can also host titan as well. Unfortunately, because user certs are not stored on the serve...
steve@k0stk.ddns.net (Steve K0STK)
Tried the auragem gemini mail interface β The mail interface at gemini://auragem.letz.dev:1958 is very nice! I _did_ have to reread the v0.5 announcement a few times for the correct port to sink in... -- Steve ...
alexlehm@gemini.lehmann.cx (Alexander)
misfin gemini server β using the same port for misfin and gemini is quite genius ...
alexlehm@gemini.lehmann.cx (Alexander)
subject test β I was not even aware that the subject format is available in misfin, that is quite good ...
alexlehm@gemini.lehmann.cx (Alexander)
[No Subject] β the read access is working fine ...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
[No Subject] β Sorry, let me clarify again. The login is for people who have an auragem.letz.dev mailbox, which nobody except for me does atm. The login is only for those who have a mailbox on that server. Your cert won't work because it's a mailbox on a different server. My server wouldn't be able to get your messages from your server, it can only access message...
2023-10-04 1 replies Β· Last updated by clseibold@auragem.letz.dev
alexlehm@gemini.lehmann.cx (Alexander)
[No Subject] β thank you, i understand the concept now ...
alexlehm@gemini.lehmann.cx (Alexander)
new sunject i am trying with printf now, maybe that will work β ...
alexlehm@gemini.lehmann.cx (Alexander)
[No Subject] β ok, i will try with the right cert. the \n comes from my trying to do a single command line, i think I have to use printf for that ...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
Re: misfin gemini β Ah, sorry if it wasn't clear. The gemini login is for those who have mailboxes on that server. Currently, I have not implemented a way to register. The point of the gemini login is that users who have mailboxes on that server can login to view their messages (or fetch their gembox). Btw, I'm not sure if this is a problem on my end or not (I don't th...
alexlehm@gemini.lehmann.cx (Alexander)
misfin gemini\nwhen i try to access the gemini login, i get invalid certificate with lagrange β ...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
Misfin-Server Version 0.5 Release β * Basic Gemini Interface! Users can now read messages or fetch their gembox with a gemini interface served over the same port as the misfin server. Enable this feature with the command `misfin-server config server gemini-permission member-only`. You can replace `member-only` with `public` or `admin-only` depending on who you want to be able to view...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
Misfin-Server Version 0.4 β I have a new release out for my misfin-server, version 0.4. It adds the concept of a send permission to mailinglists to allow one to restrict who can write to a mailinglist. A newsletter, then, becomes just a mailinglist with designated writers as the only ones who can write to the mailinglist. There's also a new option on whether subs are auto-acc...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
Re: satch's mailserver unavailable β Sending this to notify everyone that I forwarded steve's message to the mailinglist again because when steve originally sent it, it crashed my server. I have fixed the bug that caused the crash however. Re: steve, yeah, I'm also not able to send to satch's email. The unavailability of his email is actually partly why the auragem mailserver crashed, ...
steve@k0stk.ddns.net (Steve K0STK)
[No Subject] β I am always sseing connection refused messages when trying to send to anything @satch.xyz ...
steve@k0stk.ddns.net (Steve K0STK)
[No Subject] β I am always sseing connection refused messages when trying to send to anything @satch.xyz ...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
New Sub: mail@satch.xyz β We have another subscriber! mail@satch.xyz Welcome! ...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
New Sub: alexlehm β Welcome to the mailinglist alexlehm@gemini.lehmann.cx! Thanks for trying it out! - Christian ...
alexlehm@gemini.lehmann.cx (Alexander)
[No Subject] β Looks like subscribing now worked ...
steve@k0stk.ddns.net (Steve K0STK)
Hi billmugs β It is nice to see new subscribers on this list! Thanks to clseibold for making this go... -- Steve ...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
Test! β We have a new subscriber! Welcome billsmugs! I am also sending this message to test if the forwarding is working. :) - Christian ...
steve@k0stk.ddns.net (Steve K0STK)
Greetings\nfrom backstage at the historic Fargo Theater! (thanks to ssh....) β ...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
New Sub! Steve K0STK β Hello Steve! I'm glad the subscription thing worked for you! This message should have two sender lines, one from krixano@auragem.letz.dev, and one from the mailinglist (misfin@auragem.letz.dev). My client lists the second sender (which is the first sender line, since sender lines are always prepended, not appended) as a "forwarder" and the first se...
clseibold@auragem.letz.dev (Christian Lee Seibold)
Hello All! β I wanted to introduce myself as the creator of this mailinglist! :) - Christian ...