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[2024-11-18T00:07:42Z] <riteo> oh I see [2024-11-18T00:08:32Z] <riteo> if reliability is of concern I wonder if it would be possible to fit two (perhaps small ones?) ssds to stripe them or something [2024-11-18T00:25:02Z] <riteo> although thinking about it SSDs are packed with error-correction technology so perhaps it's irrelevant [2024-11-18T00:25:27Z] <midfavila> for regular use yeah it is [2024-11-18T00:25:32Z] <midfavila> im just hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [2024-11-18T00:34:36Z] <riteo> ehhhhhh [2024-11-18T00:34:52Z] <riteo> im hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh to all SSDs [2024-11-18T00:34:57Z] <riteo> like they're a huge hack from the ground up [2024-11-18T00:35:37Z] <riteo> "so all right we got this solution that wears up in no time" "I know! Let's stripe it internally and do a lot of fancy maths that are all completely hidden from the user!" [2024-11-18T00:35:54Z] <riteo> in the meantime HDDs are literally a spinning disk with a magnet on a stick [2024-11-18T06:52:04Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: about the reform, im hoping they release the slim model any time soon. then I might consider it. although im kinda afraid of different archetectures... not sure I could actually fix issues I come across along the way [2024-11-18T06:55:54Z] <sad_plan> hm, it seema they made a post about it some time ago https://mntre.com/media/reform_md/2024-09-09-introducing-mnt-reform-next.html [2024-11-18T10:46:23Z] <sewn> I'd rather pay 100 for a ancient thinkpad the size of the mnt reform [2024-11-18T10:46:28Z] <sewn> feels heavily overpriced man [2024-11-18T14:53:28Z] <sad_plan> well, it is kinda, but youre also paying for it being foss asell as modular [2024-11-18T14:53:45Z] <sad_plan> the price to performance ratio is rather terrible though [2024-11-18T14:53:58Z] <sad_plan> the framework makes more sense in comparisson [2024-11-18T16:53:56Z] <midfavila> sad_plan ARM feels pretty mature [2024-11-18T16:54:17Z] <midfavila> but yes if youre concerned about performance-price ratio maybe don't get the reform [2024-11-18T16:54:27Z] <midfavila> altho the ls1028a or w/e is pretty good [2024-11-18T16:55:00Z] <midfavila> but i'll also point out that for a lot of stuff you can get by pretty easily even with an old machine [2024-11-18T16:55:10Z] <midfavila> i used an IBM A31p throughout most of high school :p [2024-11-18T16:57:40Z] <midfavila> imho the framework is kind of shit [2024-11-18T16:57:59Z] <midfavila> its just a macbook with some dongles and they'll sell you spare parts [2024-11-18T16:58:43Z] <midfavila> comparing the framework and the reform is kind of apples to oranges. the point of the framework is that it's a modern laptop that you can fix. the point of the reform is that it's a machine designed to support libre initiatives from the ground up [2024-11-18T16:59:17Z] <midfavila> framework might sell you the parts and publish manuals for repair and all that but afaik they don't offer a generic BoM. you *have* to order parts from *them*. [2024-11-18T16:59:49Z] <midfavila> with the reform, most of it is off the shelf, and what's not has schematics, so you can fab replacement parts or make modifications pretty easily. [2024-11-18T17:00:26Z] <midfavila> also if i can be honest targeting performance in a laptop is kind of misguided unless you travel a lot for work [2024-11-18T17:00:31Z] <midfavila> just get a desktop [2024-11-18T17:00:45Z] <midfavila> a cheapo desktop will trounce a laptop [2024-11-18T17:03:28Z] <midfavila> oh, the reform has booted with some pretty decent CM4 modules, too. bananapi and soquartz iirc [2024-11-18T17:38:42Z] <sewn> midfavila: what the fuck how did you use a A31p for hs [2024-11-18T17:38:54Z] <sewn> also what did you need it for in hs anyway [2024-11-18T18:51:11Z] <riteo> you know what I'd like to see more of [2024-11-18T18:51:15Z] <riteo> source code preservation [2024-11-18T18:51:44Z] <riteo> like, debian has these huge source archives and even then those are relatively ignored [2024-11-18T18:52:19Z] <riteo> I have this cute and pretty BD-R of debian but it's all binary software packages AFAIK [2024-11-18T19:21:29Z] <riteo> just imagine how much software one could fit into a BD-R [2024-11-18T19:21:44Z] <riteo> hell, perhaps even their whole repos [2024-11-18T19:25:27Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: yeah, arm is probably fine I supppse. alpine even supports it, so I could probably steal patches from them. theres also other distros aswell. I belive most of the software I use is portable across archetcures anyway. framework is a modern laptop, so i get why you compare it to a macbook. i belive its better than that, but its fine, I suppose. [2024-11-18T20:16:18Z] <sad_plan> hm, so from a repairablilty point, the reform wins. and also, yeah, i agree, performance in a laptop is kinda a no brainer. and I dont need anything super powerfull laptop wise anyway. im mostly happy with what I have on the laptop currently anyway [2024-11-18T20:22:17Z] <midfavila> sewn i have a fine motor disability so i typed my notes and such [2024-11-18T20:22:39Z] <midfavila> ~~also I usually finished significantly ahead of everyone and spent the rest of class time dicking around in MUDs~~ [2024-11-18T20:22:57Z] <midfavila> but yeah i just ran TWIN on slackware 14.2 and it was super gomfy [2024-11-18T20:23:31Z] <midfavila> dual CF cards totalling 64GB in a master-slave config on the IDE interface, plus extra batteries in the expansion bays and stuff [2024-11-18T20:23:34Z] <midfavila> v nice [2024-11-18T20:24:06Z] <midfavila> sad_plan: i mean i mostly compare it to a macbook in the marketing department [2024-11-18T20:24:15Z] <midfavila> fundamentally the framework isnt anything unique or important [2024-11-18T20:24:28Z] <midfavila> it's just kind of an okay laptop [2024-11-18T20:24:31Z] * midfavila shrugs [2024-11-18T21:17:37Z] <sad_plan> sure, theres been several modular and supposedly repairable laptops before. however theres not a whole lot of alternatives to the reform or framework when it comes to repairability in laptops. atleast not to my knowledge. the reform is also terribly niche. midfavila