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[2024-11-10T00:08:51Z] <midfavila> hmm [2024-11-10T00:09:15Z] <midfavila> for my little hobby distro using `pm` i might separate docs, bins, and headers... [2024-11-10T00:09:54Z] <midfavila> so like, user and admin docs go with bins, but then specs and header details and such go with headers [2024-11-10T00:10:07Z] <midfavila> or maybe a dedicated doc package idk [2024-11-10T00:13:13Z] <midfavila> oh huh [2024-11-10T00:13:20Z] <midfavila> apparently fuchsia uses sbase [2024-11-10T00:13:26Z] <riteo> oh that's interesting [2024-11-10T00:13:48Z] <riteo> re separating packages: if the package system allows it, I'd go for them [2024-11-10T00:14:04Z] <midfavila> yeah no reason it wouldn't. `pm` packs are really simple [2024-11-10T00:14:24Z] <riteo> tbf I've been wondering of a pretty way of handling them in my dream distro [2024-11-10T00:14:35Z] <midfavila> also lets me put a lot of gnu implementations of tools into extra packs [2024-11-10T00:14:40Z] <midfavila> replace the core ones with simpler alternatives [2024-11-10T00:14:44Z] <midfavila> like qm4 instead of gm4 [2024-11-10T00:20:36Z] <riteo> headsup, liburing's sources don't work anymore [2024-11-10T00:20:43Z] <riteo> like, cgit complains that tar.gz's are not supported??? [2024-11-10T00:20:55Z] <riteo> so I had to fork and switch to native git sources [2024-11-10T00:20:59Z] <riteo> as in, git+whatever [2024-11-10T00:22:06Z] <midfavila> rip [2024-11-10T00:22:28Z] <midfavila> ngl im probably gonna pivot away from using git to manage repos [2024-11-10T00:22:37Z] <midfavila> at least on the user side [2024-11-10T00:44:40Z] <midfavila> anyone here know if suckless' tar is still busted on large tarchives? [2024-11-10T00:54:27Z] <midfavila> reminds me to try and patch pm(1) to support compress(1)... [2024-11-10T10:58:31Z] <vova> midfavila: what you will switch to, to manage repos ? [2024-11-10T10:59:10Z] <vova> honestly quite sad to admit this but, if the kiss package manager was written in bash it'd have been cleaner (`local` variables) [2024-11-10T13:39:30Z] <sad_plan> vova: his own. but he has to make it first though. pm doesnt have any repos, besides z3bras, which uses mk. they also havent been updated in a really long time now, so theyd probably need some package bumps. [2024-11-10T13:51:29Z] <vova> hmm [2024-11-10T13:51:41Z] <vova> why does busybox from kiss doesn't include udhcpd ? [2024-11-10T13:52:07Z] <vova> also what do you use for configuring interfaces ? [2024-11-10T13:52:39Z] <vova> (I know jack shit about networking) I'm used to /etc/network/interfaces on alpine [2024-11-10T14:14:05Z] <vova> I guess I can create a file /etc/rc.d/interfaces.boot and put something like `ip link set eth0 up && dhcpcd eth0` in it [2024-11-10T14:20:19Z] <ukky> vova: if you use dhcpcd, then you don't need `ip link set eth0 up`. My /etc/runit/sv/run has this: exec /sbin/dhcpcd -B -4 -t 0 -M [2024-11-10T14:21:12Z] <ukky> You might need to adjust /etc/dhcpcd/dhcpcd.conf [2024-11-10T14:27:04Z] <vova> Thanks ! [2024-11-10T14:27:52Z] <ukky> you are welcome [2024-11-10T15:37:04Z] <sewn> vova: bash? really? [2024-11-10T15:37:08Z] <sewn> just say busybox ash (has local) [2024-11-10T15:38:05Z] <sewn> vova: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/kisslinux/2023-10-26#35128896 [2024-11-10T15:38:23Z] <sewn> alternatively: sdhcp (rejected from upstream because dhcpcd) [2024-11-10T15:38:53Z] <vova> I know but [2024-11-10T15:38:59Z] <vova> idk [2024-11-10T16:25:22Z] <vova> anyone successfully compiled river for kiss ? [2024-11-10T16:25:28Z] <vova> I get a segfault... [2024-11-10T16:25:43Z] <vova> sewn: I know you tried to do it back in the days, any success ? [2024-11-10T16:53:49Z] <sewn> when i was using kiss i was a dwl fan [2024-11-10T16:53:54Z] <sewn> segfault.. any logs.. [2024-11-10T18:23:27Z] <vova> Sad [2024-11-10T18:23:41Z] <vova> everything is working perfectly except river... [2024-11-10T18:23:54Z] <vova> I guess I'll just take the bin from alpine for it [2024-11-10T19:02:11Z] <sewn> vova: remember, you still didnt send any logs [2024-11-10T19:02:14Z] <sewn> or make any bug report [2024-11-10T19:02:22Z] <sewn> just "oh no its broken" [2024-11-10T19:02:28Z] <vova> I did 2 years ago [2024-11-10T19:03:12Z] <vova> https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/13052 [2024-11-10T19:03:33Z] <vova> but at that time I did a dirty switch from musl to glibc so I thought that was the issue [2024-11-10T19:03:37Z] <vova> turns out it was not [2024-11-10T19:04:14Z] <vova> guess I'll just make a new issue tomorrow [2024-11-10T19:08:26Z] <sewn> i dont remember having this issue [2024-11-10T19:08:56Z] <sewn> but i did have this issue: https://github.com/ziglang/zig-bootstrap/issues/154 [2024-11-10T19:09:04Z] <sewn> which i abruptly closed cuz i was tired of zig [2024-11-10T19:09:34Z] <sewn> definitely will be a problem again if i do get back into kiss [2024-11-10T19:09:36Z] <sewn> lmk how it goes [2024-11-10T19:23:00Z] <vova> also [2024-11-10T19:23:10Z] <vova> wasn't zig in the community repo back in the days ? [2024-11-10T19:23:17Z] <vova> now there's only zig-bin [2024-11-10T19:23:18Z] <vova> why