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I read an article from someone using a Palm m500 for modern purposes and I'm sorely tempted to try it myself. I actually kind of wish I kept the HP tablet I picked up when they were getting blown out as I loved that version of webOS.

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🎧 PrairieOptimist

Aug 06 · 4 weeks ago · 👍 norayr

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🐙 norayr [mod] · Aug 07 at 23:58:

can you link the article?

also, can i tell (maybe again) that i use motorola droid4, which is a device from 2012. originally it was running android 2, but i use it with modern linux, thanks to maemo linux community.

🎧 PrairieOptimist [OP] · Aug 08 at 02:55:

Sure.

gemini://gemini.cyberbot.space/retrocomputing/whypda.gmi

🎧 PrairieOptimist [OP] · Aug 08 at 02:56:

Sorry, I hit send before finishing.

I have considered getting a basic android device taht I can install a Linux distro onto, as well. That might be more fuctional overall.

🐙 norayr [mod] · Aug 08 at 10:49:

there are several projects:

• postmarketos - is the most rich, has lots of developers, but in reality good supported devices are not many. they do lots of amazing work, bring vendor android kernel drivers to mainline.
• maemo-leste - they mostly work on reviving experience of maemo fremantle which was running on nokia n900, on other devices. they took open source parts of maemo, brought it to modern devuan linux, they also work on the mainline kernel.
• droidian - they only have a couple of supported devices and they don't feel bad using android drivers. i would not prefer them.

🐙 norayr [mod] · Aug 08 at 11:20:

there is mobian, ubuntu touch, but my impression is that former just takes other project developments and use it on debian, and latter has unportable programs, that depend on specific libraries, plus they also use android kernels, which is not good for me.

🐙 norayr [mod] · Aug 08 at 11:22:

i also checked on posmarketos wiki, that palm pre has the same chipset as nokia n900, but alas is marked as not booting. i think maemo leste folks can make it work.

🐙 norayr [mod] · Aug 08 at 11:22:

because they know texas instruments omap chipsets well.

🚲 CitySlicker · Aug 09 at 20:41:

Is there any linux mobile experience that doesn't completely suck? I like the idea, but for now deGoogled android a la GrapheneOS seems to strike the best balance between privacy respecting and functional.

🚲 CitySlicker · Aug 09 at 20:42:

However, I haven't used Linux on a phone in a long time. Does anyone have any experience with Linux on a phone? Was it usable for a normal person?

🐙 norayr [mod] · Aug 09 at 22:13:

i guess that degoogled android suggests much much much better user experience. but i personally do not want to rely on something developed by a monopoly, and perceive android as an authoritarian product.

and prefer to rely on communities that develop not polished, but vernacular (i started using that word) software.

it is obvious that our vernacular solutions won't ever be match to something authoritarian monopoly can make. thank you, but no thank you.

🐙 norayr [mod] · Aug 09 at 22:15:

look what i have been written about it here:

— bbs.geminispace.org/s/permacomputing/19024