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Re: "what do we call email for Gemini? gmail is straight out......"
Do we need a gmail in gemini?
Why not just using SMTP?
Or do you want something like instant messaging over gemini?
Feb 06 · 7 months ago
🚀 mk270 · 2024-02-06 at 23:05:
To Emru's point, "do you want something like instant messaging over gemini?"
What is being developed is a bit like email or instant messaging. It *uses* Gemini text format, but it is not "over" Gemini, and efforts are being made to minimise the potential confusion.
Misfin is its own protocol (on its own port and with its own wire format), separate from Gemini.
🐐 satch · 2024-02-06 at 23:21:
@emru see gemini://misfin.org
🍀 gritty [OP] · 2024-02-06 at 23:21:
@emru
From misfin.org
Email is just as bad as the Web. It's grown to be complex, secure only with other protocols bolted onto it, and it supports all the nasty misfeatures that the Web does, like cookies and tracking beacons. Even worse, it's seeing active hostility from the major players of the Internet. Most ISPs block traffic on port 25, and you can't deliver mail to any of the big names (like Gmail) without jumping through hoops - and even then, it's a coin toss.
It's spartan, but not overly so. It's only concerned with sending messages; mailbox management and relaying are out-of-band. Neither does it do much to combat spam - it probably won't be used by enough people to matter - but it avoids the worst of SMTP's security gotchas.
smallweb mail is a good idea because it gives more control over the technology and trims it way down to make it manageable.
there's at least a few instant messengers here in Gemini.
😎 flipperzero · 2024-02-07 at 00:32:
@gritty there are other instsnt messengers on gemini as gemapps? Id love to check em out if you'd feel so generous enough to link to some or make some mentions. That sounds p cool id be down to visit those thanks gritty
🍀 gritty [OP] · 2024-02-07 at 01:08:
@flipperzero I remember seeing them in passing, let me track down where.
🐐 satch · 2024-02-07 at 01:54:
There's gemini://auragem.letz.dev/chat/ for one
@mk270 Now I get this, thanks!
🍺 mrrobinhood5 · 2024-02-08 at 03:34:
I would like to cast a vote for 'finmail'. as in "Hey I sent you a finmail, check it out."
what do we call email for Gemini? gmail is straight out... also, I think Ansible is a good name for a project.