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And really, everyone has the option of just ignoring someone's posts instead of getting all up in arms and insisting they should shut up.
May 12 · 4 months ago
@stack "And really, everyone has the option of just ignoring someone's posts instead of getting all up in arms and insisting they should shut up."
Bingo... We have a winner. I was part of that mess. that is an extremely simple concept. Trying to control the narrative sours folks from the whole Gemini protocol it's self. Which is not fair to those who work hard to try and make Gemini work. Alienation is very unproductive.
@blah_blah_blah Well that was a great long explanaion why Gemini should be a micromanaged bias club with only five apporoved (good old boy) members. Sounds not much different than the clear web. Good for you! Keep it to yourself then! Make sure no one wants to come and play! :)
🚀 stack [OP] · May 14 at 01:33:
@Minko: is that sarcasm? That's not what I got from @blah_blah_blah's post...
@stack: it is a long list of eight reasons to excuse Gemini why Gemini is the way it is with only five "regular"users. As a current clear web domain owner, developer, and moderator since my own server days on usenet I have found it to be more succinct than that. Simply put, don't run folks off from your project with trivial emotional stuff. It is just plain unproductive in the whole. It will die from lack of participation.
🚀 stack [OP] · May 14 at 03:14:
@Minko: totally agree with your conclusion, but still don't understand why you interpret that post as an excuse for Gemini with 5 users! It looks rather reasonable and positive. Slower turnaround, check. Text-positive, check. Nostalgic for old Internet, check. Sick of main net, check. Smol, check. Bias slower to spread, check. Free to post, check. No evil leader, check. What is it it that you find so objectionable? Am I missing some subtext?
@stack: Zeronet is now down to about three regular users because of their personal fetish micromanagement and thumbs on tyranny. The personal hang ups have to go if Gemini is to survive.
Like you said, take some self responsiblity and just ignore things. Why insist on sinking the whole ship for personal trivial hang ups? It is unproductive for Gemini as a whole... :)
@stack: While I agree U.S. politic SHOULD have it's own subspace let me share a historical story. I was a mod in a forum years ago and there was a whole bunch of users asking to put the "drunks" over in their own forum so they would not be bothered. What happened? All those who complained about the drunks ended up spending all their time in the drunk forum harrassing the drunks...
This is the reality of how it really works when you are dealing with human nature. So you have to separate "domain" interests from "content". lol
🚀 stack [OP] · May 14 at 03:46:
@Minko, pls clarify: is 3xblah running zeronet? I am still missing something here.
@stack, as you know the creator nofish is gone. He disapeared long ago. Since they have a couple of forks running. But seriously, they are so micromanaged I had to leave. Burnt me out on the protocol altogether. I Recognise the user name, but haven't been there for years now so I honstly cannot say what his role there is...
@stack: Even worse... I caught them dumping malicious stuff in my box because I "dared" to be opinionated against their predisposed narrative.
🚀 stack [OP] · May 14 at 04:03:
And yes, sadly there are people here just waiting for someone to question anything left-leaning, and pounce viciously. Criticism of capitalism is fine, even expected. Really, I just don't like idiocy and corruption, left or right.
🚀 stack [OP] · May 14 at 04:06:
I guess I haven't been paying much attention to that drama...
@stack:
"I guess I haven't been paying much attention to that drama..."
This was several years ago. I think I might have met you over there. Midnight Cafe? And the Tech site? Is that you?
@stack:
"Really, I just don't like idiocy and corruption, left or right."
Same here... There is a place for it and sometimes a place not for it. But in the whole it is not the end of the world to discuss it and have a personal opinion about it. We are all wrong if they are still getting away with it... They LOVE the division.
🚀 stack [OP] · May 14 at 04:18:
No, that was someone who just looks like me... Never been there.
@stack
"No, that was someone who just looks like me... Never been there."
Lol. Ok... sorry. :)
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