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Comment by ๐Ÿš€ stack

Re: "Enshitification"

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@Minko: totally agree with your conclusion, but still don't understand why you interpret that post as an excuse for Gemini with 5 users! It looks rather reasonable and positive. Slower turnaround, check. Text-positive, check. Nostalgic for old Internet, check. Sick of main net, check. Smol, check. Bias slower to spread, check. Free to post, check. No evil leader, check. What is it it that you find so objectionable? Am I missing some subtext?

๐Ÿš€ stack [OP]

May 14 ยท 3 months ago

11 Later Comments โ†“

๐Ÿš€ Minko ยท May 14 at 03:16:

@stack: Zeronet is now down to about three regular users because of their personal fetish micromanagement and thumbs on tyranny. The personal hang ups have to go if Gemini is to survive.

Like you said, take some self responsiblity and just ignore things. Why insist on sinking the whole ship for personal trivial hang ups? It is unproductive for Gemini as a whole... :)

๐Ÿš€ Minko ยท May 14 at 03:32:

@stack: While I agree U.S. politic SHOULD have it's own subspace let me share a historical story. I was a mod in a forum years ago and there was a whole bunch of users asking to put the "drunks" over in their own forum so they would not be bothered. What happened? All those who complained about the drunks ended up spending all their time in the drunk forum harrassing the drunks...

This is the reality of how it really works when you are dealing with human nature. So you have to separate "domain" interests from "content". lol

๐Ÿš€ stack [OP] ยท May 14 at 03:46:

@Minko, pls clarify: is 3xblah running zeronet? I am still missing something here.

๐Ÿš€ Minko ยท May 14 at 03:53:

@stack, as you know the creator nofish is gone. He disapeared long ago. Since they have a couple of forks running. But seriously, they are so micromanaged I had to leave. Burnt me out on the protocol altogether. I Recognise the user name, but haven't been there for years now so I honstly cannot say what his role there is...

๐Ÿš€ Minko ยท May 14 at 04:01:

@stack: Even worse... I caught them dumping malicious stuff in my box because I "dared" to be opinionated against their predisposed narrative.

๐Ÿš€ stack [OP] ยท May 14 at 04:03:

And yes, sadly there are people here just waiting for someone to question anything left-leaning, and pounce viciously. Criticism of capitalism is fine, even expected. Really, I just don't like idiocy and corruption, left or right.

๐Ÿš€ stack [OP] ยท May 14 at 04:06:

I guess I haven't been paying much attention to that drama...

๐Ÿš€ Minko ยท May 14 at 04:09:

@stack:

"I guess I haven't been paying much attention to that drama..."

This was several years ago. I think I might have met you over there. Midnight Cafe? And the Tech site? Is that you?

๐Ÿš€ Minko ยท May 14 at 04:14:

@stack:

"Really, I just don't like idiocy and corruption, left or right."

Same here... There is a place for it and sometimes a place not for it. But in the whole it is not the end of the world to discuss it and have a personal opinion about it. We are all wrong if they are still getting away with it... They LOVE the division.

๐Ÿš€ stack [OP] ยท May 14 at 04:18:

No, that was someone who just looks like me... Never been there.

๐Ÿš€ Minko ยท May 14 at 04:20:

@stack

"No, that was someone who just looks like me... Never been there."

Lol. Ok... sorry. :)

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๐Ÿš€ stack

Enshitification โ€” How does it happen? How does a community of generally well-mannered people become a zoo full of vandals that requires hardcore policing, with automatic weapons? You could blame criminals and build higher walls and get bigger guns. But I think it is exactly the cause of enshitification. People inherently want to be a part of their community. We are social animals. And if we are rejected and have no hope, we apply whatever skills we have to express our frustration at damaging...

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