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>Message: 4 >Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 09:30:10 -0600 >From: Alex // nytpu <alex@nytpu.com> >To: Gemini Mailing List <gemini@lists.orbitalfox.eu> >Subject: Re: how to submit multi-line long form text to gemini? >Message-ID: <20210709153010.lg5odswlwkw2mjz6@GLaDOS.local> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >On 2021-07-09 01:05PM, David Messer wrote: >> Am I correct in saying that as it stands there is no built-in way for >> users to submit content via a multi-line free text field and that it >> completely relies on secondary means to get content onto the system >> running the Gemini server? >While the input codes (1x) do allow for inputting newlines, they are >limited to <1024 characters, so not too practical for freeform text. > >> I've seen some suggestions on the mailing list that include using a >> http frontend to submit content ... To me, that's just adding >> complexity which is what I'm trying to get away from with Gemini. >I've always agreed that setting up an HTTP server just for input >defeats >the purpose of Gemini. > >> I had a very brief look at titan and inimeg but I don't think either >> of those is capable of allowing users to type longform text into a >> multi-line free text box. >They are actually capable of anything. Titan works almost exactly like >how HTTP input forms work, those are just wrapped up nicely in a GUI. >If you wrote a decent client for Titan then it would be >indistinguishable from an HTTP free text form. It could work like the >in-browser Wikipedia editor and edit an existing page (which is what >it's currently used for), but it also allows you to just submit >arbitrary text and your server can make use of a Titan upload however >it >wants (add the text to the end of a page as a comment, etc.). It's >just >a matter of there not being much good support or software for it right >now. > >I have no experience with Inimeg other than seeing it pop up on this >list a few times, so I can't say anything about it. > >> The thought occurred to me that using INPUT I could implement an >edlin >> style text editor but I thought I'd sound this out before committing >> to that level of self-harm! >I believe someone got ed(1) working through Gemini, and it's... better >than nothing I guess. The link is eluding me right now though. > >~nytpu The ed wiki is very clever, but like ed, super frustrating and with limited feedback to the editor. I felt a huge challenge just adding 2 haikus. I felt at first that gemini and gemtext could be this magical wiki protocol. And I get the drive to self contain. But the reality is that simplicity requires leaving things out, and not trying to do everything. The wiki was invented for http to provide a self - hosted page creation tool for html pages in http, but before it, people used separate tools and protocols to create and post web pages to to be viewed by browsers. I now think for gemini that just is okay that you can't create pages in gemini. Part of gemini's DNA is the recognition that it lives in a milieu where other protocols exist that can do more or other related things. It didn't have to invent a hypertext transfer protocol to handle all the things. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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