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Hello, Geminispace!
TLDR:
- Gemini capsule: gemini://seirdy.one
- Code: https://sr.ht/~seirdy/seirdy.one
I recently set up my weblog and gemlog. Both have mostly the same
content, with some differences to better suit the medium (most
differences come down to breaking up paragraphs to better accommodate
Gemini's lack of inline links. A feature, not a bug.).
You can find my twinlogs at gemini://seirdy.one and https://seirdy.one.
Is "twinlog" a word? I know I saw someone on here mention twinlogs. Well
if it wasn't a word before, it is now.
I re-purposed my tilde (envs.net/~seirdy, available over both Gemini and
the WWW) to serve as a staging area to dump rough drafts and ask for
review before publishing.
I also set up a mailing list on Sourcehut (like, just now) to leave
comments. I've linked the mailing list at the bottom of my weblog
entries, but I'm not sure if I should do the same for my gemlog. Do
people generally prefer mailing lists or gemlog entries with backlinks?
Or both?
One last question: Gemininauts (please oh please let that be a word)
with twinlogs, how do you decide what to cross-post and what to keep
{WWW,gemini,gopher}-exclusive? I'm leaning towards keeping my weblog
more "professional" and my gemlog less filtered, leaving the shortest
bits for the Fediverse. I'm curious to know how you all handle this.
I just started writing a series on resilient git-based project setup,
inspired by Sourcehut and all the conversations since the youtube-dl
takedown (and subsequent re-instatement).
Next up: set up a Gemini ring and web ring. Then maybe complete the
trifecta with a Gopher hole.
Anyway, thanks for making Gemini awesome.
/Seirdy (gemini://seirdy.one)
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It was thus said that the Great Rohan Kumar once stated:
> Hello, Geminispace!
Hello!
> One last question: Gemininauts (please oh please let that be a word)
> with twinlogs, how do you decide what to cross-post and what to keep
> {WWW,gemini,gopher}-exclusive? I'm leaning towards keeping my weblog
> more "professional" and my gemlog less filtered, leaving the shortest
> bits for the Fediverse. I'm curious to know how you all handle this.
Anything I post to the web [1] is also mirrored via gopher [2] and Gemini
[3]. It also has the effect of dumping twenty years of content into gopher
and Gemini.
-spc
[1] http://boston.conman.org/
[2] gopher://gopher.conman.org/1Phlog:
[3] gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/
Rohan Kumar <rkumar at rkumar-dekstop> writes:
> Hello, Geminispace!
Yo,
welcome to gemini!
>
> [?]
>
> One last question: Gemininauts (please oh please let that be a word)
> with twinlogs, how do you decide what to cross-post and what to keep
> {WWW,gemini,gopher}-exclusive? I'm leaning towards keeping my weblog
> more "professional" and my gemlog less filtered, leaving the shortest
> bits for the Fediverse. I'm curious to know how you all handle this.
I?m serving the exact same content on both the HTTP and gemini version
(and, when I?ll eventually start serving the site under gopher I?ll
serve the exact same content there), but I see why one would like to
differentiate the content. In my case, I have a clojure script to
generate the sites and a edn file (think of it like a JSON if you
prefer) with a list of posts and pages, I think I can add a
:gemini-only? or :http-only? key to each post to decide where to post
to.
I see that you maintain two different version of each post, one in
markdown and one in gemtext and, if that?s fine for you, cool. I?m too
lazy to maintain two different version of the same content, so I?m
writing all the ?new? entries in text/gemini and converting them to HTML
for WWW consumption.
I?m happy with the replacement of markdown with gemtext, in my use case
at least. Before, I always had to double ? or triple ? check the posts
before publishing in a web browser to ensure that what I wrote was
exactly what the markdown parser thought (I cannot remember the correct
syntax for images/links and I always forget to put an empty line before
the lists, for instance). With gemtext I can write and publish directly
from my editor, and I?m confident that both the gemini and the WWW
version are OK. Another thing is the lack of inline formatting
(emphasis, code, etc). At first I found it limiting, but after I while
I got used to, and now I can see that I was exaggerating with the
formatting. The entries are more clear now, I think.
The result isn?t bad, the ?one link per line? can still be weird at
times, but with a bit of CSS it?s too bad, and my converter has a
heuristic: link to *(png|jpg) gets converted to inline images (I?m
serving less than 10 images, and all from my domain, so it works for
me).
> I just started writing a series on resilient git-based project setup,
> inspired by Sourcehut and all the conversations since the youtube-dl
> takedown (and subsequent re-instatement).
looking forward to it ;)
> Next up: set up a Gemini ring and web ring. Then maybe complete the
> trifecta with a Gopher hole.
it?s also on my todo-list
> Anyway, thanks for making Gemini awesome.
>
>
> /Seirdy (gemini://seirdy.one)
November 19, 2020 2:08 AM, "Rohan Kumar" <rkumar at rkumar-dekstop> wrote:
> Hello, Geminispace!
>
> TLDR:
> - Gemini capsule: gemini://seirdy.one
> - Code: https://sr.ht/~seirdy/seirdy.one
>
> I recently set up my weblog and gemlog. Both have mostly the same
> content, with some differences to better suit the medium (most
> differences come down to breaking up paragraphs to better accommodate
> Gemini's lack of inline links. A feature, not a bug.).
>
> You can find my twinlogs at gemini://seirdy.one and https://seirdy.one.
> Is "twinlog" a word? I know I saw someone on here mention twinlogs. Well
> if it wasn't a word before, it is now.
I second the addition of "twinlog" to the lexicon.
> I re-purposed my tilde (envs.net/~seirdy, available over both Gemini and
> the WWW) to serve as a staging area to dump rough drafts and ask for
> review before publishing.
Ooh, good idea!
> I also set up a mailing list on Sourcehut (like, just now) to leave
> comments. I've linked the mailing list at the bottom of my weblog
> entries, but I'm not sure if I should do the same for my gemlog. Do
> people generally prefer mailing lists or gemlog entries with backlinks?
> Or both?
That's pretty cool. I don't mind either way.
> One last question: Gemininauts (please oh please let that be a word)
> with twinlogs, how do you decide what to cross-post and what to keep
> {WWW,gemini,gopher}-exclusive? I'm leaning towards keeping my weblog
> more "professional" and my gemlog less filtered, leaving the shortest
> bits for the Fediverse. I'm curious to know how you all handle this.
Usually, I keep my gemini/gopher content to either ports of things I do on
HTTP land (i.e; gemini://tilde.team/~khuxkm/ao3proxy/) or written content
(i.e; gemini://tilde.team/~khuxkm/writing/, gemini://tilde.team/~khuxkm/gemlog/)
> I just started writing a series on resilient git-based project setup,
> inspired by Sourcehut and all the conversations since the youtube-dl
> takedown (and subsequent re-instatement).
Nice! I'll be sure to check it out.
> Next up: set up a Gemini ring and web ring. Then maybe complete the
> trifecta with a Gopher hole.
LEO's out there (gemini://tilde.team/~khuxkm/leo/), as is the code that
runs it if you want your own (https://tildegit.org/khuxkm/molniya). Of
course, if you want to write your own, multiple implementations is a good thing!
> Anyway, thanks for making Gemini awesome.
It's people like you who help make it so.
Just my two cents,
Robert "khuxkm" Miles
Rohan Kumar <rkumar at rkumar-dekstop.carcosa.net> writes:
> I also set up a mailing list on Sourcehut (like, just now) to leave comments.
> I've linked the mailing list at the bottom of my weblog entries, but I'm not
> sure if I should do the same for my gemlog. Do people generally prefer mailing
> lists or gemlog entries with backlinks? Or both?
There's no real consensus. I do most of my replying by gemlog entries
with backlinks, but for actually discovering them, I don't in practice
search for backlinks; instead, I just look on CAPCOM and Spacewalk.
Reply-by-mail is a good idea and good practice, though.
> One last question: Gemininauts (please oh please let that be a word) with
> twinlogs, how do you decide what to cross-post and what to keep
> {WWW,gemini,gopher}-exclusive? I'm leaning towards keeping my weblog more
> "professional" and my gemlog less filtered, leaving the shortest bits for the
> Fediverse. I'm curious to know how you all handle this.
I don't cross-post very much between Gemini and WWW. My gopher hole is a
mirror of my website, just because when I made my gopher hole I was
blogging on the web regularly, and configured my static site generator
to make gophermaps. My weblog mostly has things of general
interest/reference ? technical how-tos and recipes. My gemlog has more
personal bits, rants, general computer stuff. I have a separate gemlog
for politics, which is intended to be in a gonzo journalism style.
Short bits go either on the fediverse, or in a single file that's
periodically updated in my journal, inspired by Shufei's Weiphlog.
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> I also set up a mailing list on Sourcehut (like, just now) to leave
> comments. I've linked the mailing list at the bottom of my weblog
> entries,
Thinking about it, I should do that too.
> One last question: Gemininauts (please oh please let that be a word)
> with twinlogs, how do you decide what to cross-post and what to keep
> {WWW,gemini,gopher}-exclusive? I'm leaning towards keeping my weblog
> more "professional" and my gemlog less filtered, [...] I'm curious
> to know how you all handle this.
I separate my posts into three (for now, at least) categories, being
"experiments", "posts" and "micro logs".
Experiments are where I mess around with Gemini/Gemtext, so it only
makes sense for them to be Gemini-exclusive.
"Micro Logs" are stuff I post every now and then that contain
(sometimes multiple) short posts that I feel are too short for normal
posts. These are also Gemini-exclusive.
"Posts", are the (somewhat) more polished stuff I write. They are
accessible via HTTP "by default", but for some stuff I will intentionally
make them Gemini-exclusive, depending on their content.
(I also have "reply" posts (just one for now). They are also
Gemini-exclusive by nature)
"Posts" are actually special, in that they will always have HTML versions
available, even if not listed. This was originally a bug until I decided
it could be great for sharing and turned it into a feature.
Everything I talked about also gets uploaded into a public Git repo and
both versions of the site get built from the same sources, with HTML
being the "afterthought" (All posts are written in Gemtext)
https://git.ebc.li/admicos/blog
> leaving the shortest bits for the Fediverse.
I have a CGI script to show the most recent (20 i think) fediverse
messages I posted as Gemtext. It might be useful for you too, assuming
you can run Python CGI scripts in your server:
https://git.ebc.li/admicos/blog/src/branch/main/cgi/thoughts.py
It should work on any reasonably modern version of Python assuming
`requests` is installed.
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Have a nice /(day|night|week(end)?)/
~ Ecmel B. Canl?er
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