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Re: Web considered harmful

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From: Doc O'Leary <droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com>

Subject: Re: Web considered harmful

Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 04:04:10 -0000 (UTC)

Message-ID: <stfk7q$5gk$1@dont-email.me>

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For your reference, records indicate that

news@zzo38computer.org.invalid wrote:

There are a few reasons why they would not implement Markdown, one of which is
that there are a few different variants, so they aren't always compatible.

Neither are all the variants of HTML compatible, but you presumably

wouldn’t argue that as a reason browsers shouldn’t handle *any* HTML,

right? My point is that there are many document formats that have a more

or less direct conversion to features that are supported by HTML, yet

feeding one to a “modern” browser that has kitchen-sink support for just

about everything else under the sun leaves them dumbfounded. I mean, a

basic CSV file should be trivially easy to display as any other table would

be, but is there any major browser that does that?

It is common they implement the bad stuff, some of the good features though are
not implemented, and some good feature are even being removed, too.

What can be said to be bad or good are in the eye of the beholder. I

personally dislike the focus on publisher-controlled presentation. CSS

was supposed to move us away from that, but most browsers don’t make it

easy to override sites so that the visitor can define their own unique

view of a usable web.

It is unfortunate that fixing it involves more things like that instead of
just making it in a simpler way, but it seems necessary, to me.

Well, I’d say it’s only “necessary” in the sense that some people can’t

see beyond bloating one app until it does everything they need. I can

easily see a tool developed with the Unix Philosophy in mind, but I can

also see that most users wouldn’t actually use it, because they are quite

happy living in an online world where the presentation is controlled by

someone else whose aim is continued engagement.

--

"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."

River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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