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From: rtr <rtr@haraya.invalid>
Subject: Re: In the news
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 08:22:04 +0800
Message-ID: <875yq2cbtf.fsf@haraya.local.net>
David <david@arch.invalid> writes:
Article in The Register about Gemini with lots of links
https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/27/gemini_protocol/
> Toaster-friendly alternative web protocol Gemini attracts criticism
for becoming exclusive clique
> While creators were stripping away annoying styling, users started
to make Geminispace a bunker, says engineer
> Liam Proven in Prague Thu 27 Jan 2022 // 14:50 UTC
One commentator suggests: Please make a Gemini version of El Reg
The German daily newspaper Die Tageszeitung (taz.de) actually offers
their articles via Gopher and Gemini. I think it's well done with
links to article lists by authors, tags, etc. at the bottom of each
article.
I feel a bit odd about this article. To me it seemed that the author is
dancing around saying that ``... Well, there is nothing wrong with
gemini...'' and then tangents on to say that ``the web is already
decentralized''. And that "there are also decentralized services like
activitypub" then concludes that ``what we need more is minimal web
pages''.
What happened to gemini? Well, sidetracked and used as a
conversation starter about how we should simplify the web. Even old man
gopher got a mention by the end with a couple of links to a tool to view
gopher pages and a gopher site to match it.
Also what's with this fella:
A post this week gained a lot of traction on Hackernews forums, when a
software engineer calling themselves "マリウス" – that's "Marius" to
gaijin – called it "solutionism at its worst". They argued in a blogpost
that Gemini is an answer to a problem that doesn't exist and encourages
a bunker effect, excluding people who use ordinary web browsers, perhaps
due to accessibility issues.
I'd argue that gemini is an answer to a problem that does exist. And
frankly, I don't think it was ever an issue for geminauts whether people
would or would not be excluded from gemini. It exists by itself as an
independent means of obtaining information. For that alone, it is really
great.
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I took the liberty to skim this fella's blog here:
https://xn--gckvb8fzb.com/gemini-is-solutionism-at-its-worst/
It seemed to me that he is a developer of something called
Superhighway84 which seemed to be a USENET clone from I read about it.
On that, I find it funny that he is talking about Gemini being ``an
answer to a problem that doesn't exist'' when he himself have created
``an answer to a problem that doesn't exist'' with his Superhighway84.
Either way, it's a lengthy blogpost for anyone who is interested in
reading what he has to say. The general idea that I took from it is we
shouldn't really mess with experimental protocols because we already
have ones that ``work'' and that we should be as inclusive as possible
to everyone (for some reason X that he didn't elaborate on).
I really need my morning cup of coffee.
Cheers everyone!
--
Give them an inch and they will take a mile.
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gemini://rtr.kalayaan.xyz
Parent:
In the news (by David <david@arch.invalid> on Sat, 29 Jan 2022 19:07:21 +0100)
Children:
Re: In the news (by David <david@arch.invalid> on Sun, 30 Jan 2022 11:02:47 +0100)