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climbing up the technical stool

2012-01-06 19:39:37

That's a function of the size of the company and industry you are in. In general, the technical ladder (or stool) becomes steep very quickly. And as you climb it up, you start to see that you do more management than actual hands-on thingie-building. But do not delude yourself into thinking that this type of management is of a non-technical nature.

Software Architect. Enterprise Architect. Technical Lead. Principal Engineer. Technical Director. Chief Scientist. Let's call these upper-stool technical positions.

These types of positions require you to do less hands-on stuff, but the management you will have to do must be technical-oriented. How you assign technical tasks to people and teams will depend on whether tasks are technical feasible, on identifying the technical capabilities of your team, on understanding the resources required to complete technical tasks.

Granted that a lot of people who get into these positions let go of themselves, gradually detaching themselves from the technical realities on the ground, where the pedal hits the metal. And as a result, their decisions are no longer technical, with technical consequences that is beyond their grasp. But those are examples of doing a bad job in their positions. And that exists at all levels, from the uber-chief of technical reality down to the lowest code monkey.

These are the fabled paper tigers.

That is, being detached of technical realities is not an inevitability of working so high up the ladder/stool. Good technical people remain strategically and tactically technical always, regardless of their pecking order. A good above-the-clouds architect can drop back to code with only a few days to clear the mental cobwebs. A good technical foot soldier can extrapolate the reasons behind good high-level technical decisions, even if he/she does not have the management experience (which naturally they don't at their entry level of their careers.)

My suggestion to people who find themselves staring at the technical stool: put another stool over it, secure it with nails, crazy glue or some other good shit, and then climb it. That is, like a good engineer, you need to engineer and build your technical ladder.

This can only be done without realizing first that to climb it, you will have to gradually move away from hands-on work without losing your technical wits. You cannot allow yourself to become a paper-tiger.

This will also means that when you find yourself at a company where there is nowhere else to go but down (because the stool cannot go any higher for whatever reasons), then it is time to go somewhere else where there is a chance to nail/glue another stool over the one you have built so far.

These are my personal interview red flags for a software developer job, starting with the most likely to result in me throwing the interview/leaving early/declining any offer:

Hiring is based on brain teasers, $-based certifications, or other similarly irrelevant criteria.

Wants to know my current salary. (Bonus point: Doesn't give any indication at the same time of the likely compensation if I'm offered the job. Extra bonus point: Makes clear that the salary range given in the job ad was wildly optimistic.)

Won't show me an example of their production code, real documentation, etc. when given a reasonable opportunity to do so.

In each case, someone is skirting what matters, instead of finding out as fast as possible whether we are really a good fit and a mutually satisfactory hire might result.

current salary?

try this: companies are now asking (expecting!) your WHOLE CAREER SALARY TRACK!

I laugh and refuse. I don't even give current salary, I give a range of what I expect for THIS job.

one guy even asked if the # I gave for my salary was verifyable. I asked him 'this is a trick question or test question isn't it? there's no legal way you can 'verify' my salary, so who are you trying to kid, here??'

of course, some actually want COPIES of your pay stub to prove it.

I walk away from such places. those are big red flags that there will be mgmt trouble later on, at that kind of place.

look, if you want to hire me, stop playing games. but if you want to start things off poorly, start DEMANDING I tell you private things, like how much I made last year. that's none of your fucking business, mr corporate asshole hiring mgr. talk about rude questions - and the fact that so many people just give in and answer them! astonishing.

then again, its a horrible time for job seekers right now. they have us by the shorties, as there is NO bargaining and NO unions to help us keep the big co's in check and in their place.

This is the best advice out there. If you enter any job interview from a position of needing the job rather than wanting it, you risk not being happy in your role. And don't be afraid to turn the question back around - if someone is asking you where you see yourself in five years, why are they asking that? Is it because they want someone who will grow with the company, do they have a specific path mapped out that they'd want you to follow, are they hoping for someone who will stick in the one position forever, etc - ask them, if you got the job, where they'd see your role in five years, because it depends more on them than you at the end of the day (it doesn't matter if you see yourself as CEO if they only see you in a junior role).

Ask them to program something specific

I guess we combine the two approaches: we send our candidates small coding problems to solve. So we see real code they create and have a standardized way of comparing it to what other candidates have provided.

It works really well at filtering out people we don't want to waste time talking to, and gives us a starting point for the technical interview. It isn't useful for deciding whether or not a candidate should be hired, since there are many other factors that come into play.

I ask candidates puzzles

But the idea isn't to get an answer - and I am very up front that I don't care about the answer, and I already know it anyway. What I do want to see is how someone approaches a problem that they don't know how to solve. I had one candidate ask me the answer, I already know it after all - immediately top of my hiring list, and she was an awesome hire. Another asked if they could use google on their phone - again a pretty much perfect answer. The puzzle is completely irrelevant, the ability to question, put forward ideas and not just say 'I don't know' or, even worse, go completely silent and get embarrassed that you don't know, is pretty fucking critical. IMHO.

I also look at samples of previous work, and we make all candidates carry out real world tasks along side us.

> If the candidate is embarrassed, you should find the reason why, what emotion is interfering?

http://developers.slashdot.org/story/12/01/06/1334246/are-brain-teasers-good-hiring-criteria