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Re: "Ladybird: a truly independent web browser"
(3/3) -materialized, not in the interest of replacing the web, so much as being one alternative in a claustrophobic climate occupied by suits and lounge lizard tech bro closet-suits masquarading as fledgling smalltime programmers (like a lot of us here!). It's not lost on me the irony of the implication by what's being painted of the project, the basis in origin from crowd funding, but we have to remember: it IS one of us. Serenity was NOT a corporate effort like Ubuntu or Fedora. It's enthusiasts who take interest in seeing how far developing a new ecosystem can go. The project has now split off, and can re-introduce open developmet in the web same as here. It can bounce back. More might follow.
Jul 04 · 6 weeks ago
I'm all for alternatives to too-big-to-fail economic fascism corporate efforts to trade our data while providing a minimally-usable experience with software and protocols so convoluted that no one can possibly compete (except for other enormous subsidized turdbarrel containerships)... A million is way not enough to make a new browser.
Serenity is almost interesting, except C++ is a disaster, and that is enough for me to stay the **** away from. C++ _and_ all the http-related technologies... I would buy puts if I could.
And really, what does yet another html browser have to do with gemini? Tesla has about as much in common...
If I could find and ban every web-based gemini proxy site from even viewing my capsule I would, but it’s been IP whack a mole.
The Web is not somewhere I want to be anymore, and I don’t want to deal with Web users.
😎 flipperzero · Jul 05 at 05:50:
Again, that's nothing to do with this discussion, and would better suit discourse in a separate post as this ones meant to encourage people to try a new approach to the web standards to make improvements away from the interest of suits which IF achievable would BENEFIT the smallnet from being threatened with similar. No need for derailment.
It's not about how it relates to Gemini, as much it is encouraging an open ecosystem to the web like what's here. If people get a taste of that -there- could push em to drop it for -here-. Dig? Why shoot ourselves in the foot with "Baah, web bad. Web users, unclean.." We were all once web users too lol. You had to find some way here, SOME how.
I don't want to be a sourpus, but... For a browser to be even remotely usable, never mind more private or better in any way, you simply have to implement the entire terribleness created by the evil ones, including weird corner cases and nonstandards.. In the process of doing so, you will just give up, or become one of them.
Some ideas are just dumb. If one enjoys doing dumb things (I often do), by all means, enjoy -- especially if someone actually is paying for you! But it will not make the world a better place, usher in a new age, or even become an incremental improvement in anyone's life. A couple of guys will high five each other because a Wikipedia page finally loads.
Toxic positivity is a thing.
— https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25803568
Ladybird: a truly independent web browser — Ladybird is a brand-new browser & web engine. Driven by a web standards first approach, Ladybird aims to render the modern web with good performance, stability and security. From the non-profit announcement: The world needs a browser that puts people first, contributes to open standards using a brand new engine, and is free from advertising's influence. This is why I='ve co-founded the Ladybird Browser Initiative with Andreas and my family has...