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👽 mathpunk

My experience on Linux has been way more user-friendly and intuitive than my experience with Windows 10 and especially Windows 11, and I'm realizing that that's because I'm the kind of person who always changes the default settings. Windows is extremely intuitive and user friendly as long as you want to do everything the way Microsoft wants you to do it. But even something as simple as changing the system colour theme was kind of buggy, and if you don't want to use Edge or Bing or OneDrive? *shudders*

8 months ago · 👍 mina, edanosborne

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👽 gyaradong

Software cannot hide its technical decisions. For me, Linux, and Debian's curation of software in stable is what I'm after. For Windows, both OLE and COM are immensely successful at what they do, for better and for worse. The defensive programming is a necessary evil given proprietary software. I don't have a perfect time with Linux but I am a programmer and it is open source, so I have no excuses. · 8 months ago

👽 mathpunk

@clseibold I'll fully admit to being bad at reading tone through text, so I'm sorry if I'm misinterpreting, but you seem almost... mad at me? I don't really understand. I had a shitty experience that you didn't have, I'm not sure why that's a sin? · 8 months ago

👽 clseibold

On Windows I can change the default browser, the default search engine, and the themes, and I can download something else besides Onedrive (Btw, did you think Windows forces Onedrive? It literally doesn't. You can disable it and download Google Drive or whatever else, lmao). I don't have to spend 5 years tinkering with the OS to get it the way I want.

Meanwhile, Linux doesn't have a standardization for handling default apps, so each distro uses a different thing, and they are all wrapped around xdg-open. Google Drive or OneDrive aren't on Linux, but hey, there's always the buggy 3rd party programs! And themes on Linux are either resource intensive or terrible. · 8 months ago

👽 clseibold

Every Operating System has default settings, including Linux Distros. The experience between Linux and MS and macOS are all the same - they all suck. For me, the difference is whether updating one app breaks the rest of your computer (like on Linux) or not. That's one of the biggest reasons why I continue to use Windows.

I'm just tired of Linux being buggy and breaking all of the time. I'm tired of tinkering every day to get Linux to be "perfect". I'm tired of not having sane defaults. I'm tired of distro-hopping because every distro is buggy. Linux breaks once a day, Windows breaks once a week. I will take once a week over once a day in a heartbeat. · 8 months ago

👽 eph

I miss Windows 7 and Windows Phone. · 8 months ago

👽 digbat

abandoned m$ in 1999 -> beos :-) touch it sometimes to help fix issues for non-computerate friends uuuggghhh! · 8 months ago

👽 xoagray

I stopped using Windows about 3 years ago barring a couple months on Windows 11 to see what it was like. It kida' sucks because the OS it's self is getting better and worse at the same time, but the bad (at least to me) outweighs the good, and has for years now. · 8 months ago

👽 akkartik

Yeah, same here. And yet, on Android I stopped using Firefox because they borked up their omnibar so completely. It shows "Firefox suggest" in spite of my best efforts playing whack-a-mole with checkboxes. And what's more, it no longer reliably shows me my own bookmarks or history! Sometimes 3 characters shows my bookmark, but 2 or 4 characters shows nothing but Suggest.. · 8 months ago

👽 mathpunk

@akkartik The first thing I do in any new firefox install is rip out all the homepage/pocket stuff. At least firefox makes it easy and quick to do, but IMO a new page/new tab screen should be completely blank. It should not fight for my attention! · 8 months ago

👽 akkartik

All these nuances will slowly go obsolete, as Windows continues to cover every available surface with ads.

Hmm, then again Chrome and Firefox do the same thing regardless of platform, so maybe it is still not a big difference :/ Just a general sinking of all boats. · 8 months ago