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What is the best way for me to get started? I am using a tilde account, so the obvious limitations apply. Can I get a misfin address somewhere else and use a misfin client? Obviously I would need to trust the provider. What is the intended way to use it for those who can't run a server at a fixed socket address?
What is the normal way to use it? You run your own server, and access it with a client which -- grabs messages to cache them locally? Can you keep them on the server? Why have a client at all and not have the server generate gemtext to manipulate the message databases?
To send a message, do I communicate with my own server and have it forward it through some back-channel, or does my client need to connect to the destination server and hope that it's up?
I guess I am just confused about how the whole thing is intended to be used, and the protocol description does not address that.
Jun 09 · 2 months ago · 👍 Cotteux
@stack The easiest way to get started is probably to register an account on a public misfin server. @flipperzero runs a public misfin server on hashnix.club, which is available at this address:
The easiest is to register using Lagrange but any browser will do. There are probably other public servers but it's the main one i know of. Once you have an account you can send and receive messages using the gemini interface. I'll answer your other questions in the next message :)
My address is cipres@hashnix.club by the way.
rqm@hashnix.club here!
I'm johano@hashnix.club 😃
🚀 stack [OP] · Jun 10 at 04:22:
I am now stack@hashnix.club
I am very interested in the questions mentioned above! Please post them here on BBS, too. thanks in advance
I've added (really basic and lame probably ...) support for message drafts in the frontend. Drafts expire after 15 minutes. Also now virtual mailboxes can be defined in the config, echo service example here:
— https://gitlab.com/cipres/misfin/-/blob/master/docs/index.md#virtual-mailboxes
😎 flipperzero · Jun 11 at 20:42:
@gemalaya I've just now seen that you've updated the server software, so I'll go ahead and update that now. **Edit: the server is upgraded to newest version**
@stack Sorry to see your post this late! Yes, the hashnix service is free to all, in case that's an easier situation for you as cipres mentions. That out the way, if you wanted your own DNS + hosting there are various ways to do that. The fact is, you yourself have the option to self-host either a personal private server -or- even your own public instance others can use and message with across gemini frontend. This is configurable via cipres' server software based off lem's implement and spec.
😎 flipperzero · Jun 11 at 20:45:
I don't remember where, but i'm aware of a tilde that also hosts misfin maybe it's institute? In terms of self-hosting, your server is also the client if you decide to go private single-user. You have a gembox directory in your servers main folder that you can use the program commands to then read from and edit accordingly.
You can also use a VPS solution, like myself, if you don't have an ISP or IP available that will both stay static and publicly seeable to anybody from the machine you're broadcasting from. Otherwise, you should be able to set your DNS configured to your IP that you have the server running from and depending on username and hostname, your inbox should be live by then.
😎 flipperzero · Jun 11 at 20:47:
Last thing, that if you do decide to do a public instance, that it is no longer necessary by that point to do anything by the cli program as it will be run as a daemon service from which you can use the gemini frontend (much like with my hashnix instane) to do all your messaging and etc.
OK, that's enough from me, hopefully everything I've detailed has been helpful and has provided some context as to how to get all this stuff working on the chance you wanted your own go. Aside from that, there should be public instances available which allow you to interact with misfin.
Any more questions you have, feel free to hit me up at userfxnet@hashnix.club with anything else in mind :D
Thanks @flipperzero. I think there won't be any major updates for a while.