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~detritus

I liked that solution of yours with jobs instead of termux. Being a command line junkie myself (or rather, a REFORMED command line junkie) I am ashamed to say I never tried that, I would always stuck with tmux and I never liked the experience. I disliked having to learn the keystrokes to do things, I also faced the same problems as you with the names of each pane (they would all say 'bash'), and in a virtual terminal without fbdev (as happens in BSD based systems and ones where I didn't remember to compile the relevant drivers) that little bar at the bottom takes precious screen real estate.

Anyway, if I get back to the old habits, I'll try using that. I had managed to do do most things without ever going into ncurses, including text editing! Personally, I like that environment a lot more than Emacs. I don't care what they say about virtual terminals being old and obsolete, at least they are streamlined to work with text nicely. I only ever regret they not being able to support UTF-8, for which I am bound to really try with emacs.

Say, I'm out of the loop regarding new technologies, I don't expect you to be any different, but are there any good emacs replacements being developed lately?

Also, I am sorry I haven't been around to reply to other posts, my head just hasn't been quite there lately.

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~inquiry wrote (thread):

> I liked that solution of yours with jobs instead of
> termux. Being a command line junkie myself (or rather,
> a REFORMED command line junkie) I am ashamed to say
> I never tried that, I would always stuck with tmux
> and I never liked the experience. I disliked having to
> learn the keystrokes to do things, I also faced the same
> problems as you with the names of each pane (they would
> all say 'bash'), and in a virtual terminal without fbdev
> (as happens in BSD based systems and ones where I didn't
> remember to compile the relevant drivers) that little bar
> at the bottom takes precious screen real estate.

I wound up loving tmux, but of course at some point began wondering if there might be a simpler way to cover the vast majority of my use cases with an even thinner keystroke interface layer that *also* somehow solved my forgetting what window/pane something in particular was running. The older I get, the more "out of sight, out of mind" torments me....

FWIW, I tweaked PROMPT_COMMAND a bit more, prepending its value with "clear;":

export PROMPT_COMMAND='clear;echo "=== jobs ===";jobs'

so that the jobs output always winds up in the top-left of the screen, which saves me time for being able to count on that output always been in the same place, but of course there's always at least a small inconvenience, namely the last line always showing that "clear" is "Done":

=== jobs ===
[1]   Stopped                 digg  (wd: ~)
[3]   Stopped                 usenet  (wd: ~/News)
[5]-  Stopped                 mp
[6]   Stopped                 weblist x
[7]   Stopped                 gopher
[8]   Stopped                 cl
[9]+  Stopped                 vic z
[10]   Done                    clear

So I'll just have to see if that annoyance ends up out-weighing what the "clear" accomplishes.

> Also, I am sorry I haven't been around to reply to other
> posts, my head just hasn't been quite there lately.

:-)