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Re: "Biden vs. Trump: we lose either way"
so we got who we wanted.
very similar to like in case with georgia, we got war as revenge.
our new leader did everything to demonstrate how loyal he is to putin. and that his only aim is to eliminate corruption inside the country.
but then putin said - those are my friends. and he didn't allow that.
our leader even sent troops to syria, which usa didn't like at all, just to prove to putin how loyal he is. but that didn't help. the leader of former republic shouldn't come by elections, without being approved by putin.
he has his rules. he has his vision. they said "they (armenia) have no choice, they have to join "common state" with russia.
Feb 23 ยท 6 months ago
๐ norayr ยท Feb 23 at 20:19:
eventually. what putis says, is that "peter has stolen, so can i".
if you're good, you don't say that.
you don't do what bad people do.
you do what good people do. if usa have stolen, you don't have to do the same. and you don't have to kill innocent kids in ukraine.
have you seen the photos? don't those raise emotions? have you seen burned down buildings?
๐ stack [OP] ยท Feb 23 at 20:45:
@satch yes! That's what they do. Walk away from negotiations and start over. Look a decades of this with Iran. There is no money in peace, and small wars help elections
๐ satch ยท Feb 23 at 21:42:
@norayr i think you might be making assumptions about my beliefs which aren't quite right. I really do fault Putin and Russia for the war first and foremost. They are the aggressors, they are morally responsible for the majority of the suffering the war has caused, and they should be condemned by every nation in the world for this war.
I would *much* rather Ukraine win then Russia.
Just because the USA has actively made the situation worse and helped to create it in the first place doesn't mean that Russia gets off the hook for invading a sovereign nation.
๐ norayr ยท Feb 23 at 22:37:
i am sorry.
i find myself sensitive to the extent i might be better off such discussions.
i just felt that some people might not be informed well enough.
but enough justifying myself. i feel i owe an apology to everyone who received notifications.
๐ satch ยท Feb 23 at 22:44:
@norayr it's ok, don't worry :) i appreciate hearing your perspective
๐ stack [OP] ยท Feb 24 at 00:49:
@norayr: I don think anyone disagrees with you!
๐ stack [OP] ยท Feb 24 at 00:59:
This post was about the possible outcomes of US presidential election, especially regarding the US foreign policy (as in starting wars in Ukraine, Middle East and China).
Nothing in this post or followups justifies Putin!
Biden vs. Trump: we lose either way โ [preformatted] This is pretty pathetic. I hate it when Trump is right, and he is right about Biden trying to start a war to get re-elected. Biden, or whoever the puppet master behind him is, has been working hard to stir up trouble. I really hope it does not go full out. Trump is a total criminal scumbag, but to be fair, Biden has not changed anything for the better. I think Trump is less likely to blow us all up -- he is in it to pardon himself and walk...
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