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i just read this article, very interesting. i never thought meta's involvement with fediverse could be this dangerous. and i never knew this details about google and xmpp.
May 27 · 3 months ago · 👍 gemalaya
I didn't know that xmpp had federating capacity. The only places I encountered it was Facebook and Google aka silos.
🐙 norayr [OP] · May 28 at 01:00:
xmpp is federated, and i use it every day. i only use xmpp for chats. there is no other way to chat with me, if not xmpp.
also there are some good multi user chats, including one dedicated to gemini.
and xmpp even has syndication extensions, what practically makes it an alternative to activity pub or diaspora.
currently the only implementations of social networking extensions are movim and libervia.
I am a big fan of xmpp too. I remember when Google Talk would work with other xmpp domains. I never thought about this strategy. Although I don't use the fedeverse much... except to watch videos on peertube, it will be interesting to see what transpires between meta and the fediverse. I also agree that the less we have anything to do with the greedy monopolies which are only interested in their own profit, the better off we will be.
🐙 norayr [OP] · May 28 at 09:33:
i was commenting that back then, when google had xmpp (i thought it was xmpp since the beginning, i didn't know it was a compatibility layer), it was also because their slogan was 'dont be evil'. then eric schmidt came and changed it to 'do the right thing'. i think he says in his book 'how google works' that he was surprised that during the corporate meeting someone would oppose a decition which would bring money because it doesnt correspond to not being evil slogan. and i think since they do the right thing, they decided xmpp is not their thing.
Found Kevs post about Facebook/Meta contact talked about in the article.
— https://hub.fosstodon.org/facebook-fosstodon-fedi
☕️ tenno-seremel · May 29 at 07:45:
XMPP is better than ever, TBH. I use it every day since the days of dinosaurs.