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It is the net's largest forum for users to ask questions, discuss issues, and share ideas. The complete set of Csa2 text FAQs and Resource files is maintained on the U. Iowa Ground site and mirrors. The Csa2 html FAQs are maintained on the II Computing site. Date: 01 Feb 2001 13:27:06 GMT X-Trace: 981034026 senator-bedfellow.mit.edu 17492 18.181.0.29 Archive-name: apple2/faq/part20 Posting-Frequency: monthly Last-modified: 2001/2/1 URL: <A HREF="http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/A2FAQs1START.html">http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/A2FAQs1START.html</A> The <A HREF="news:comp.sys.apple2">comp.sys.apple2</A> Usenet newsgroup Apple II FAQs originate from the Ground Apple II archive, 1997-2001. Administrator: Steve Nelson Csa2 FAQs-on-Ground ref: Csa2T1TCOM.txt rev035 February 2001 Telecom-1 Hardware & Transfers 001- How do I transfer files between my Apple and a PC or Mac? 002- How do I transfer/convert my A2 word processor files to a PC? 003- How do I use ADT & ap2222pc to transfer disks between A2 & PC? 004- How do I transfer files between computers using NULL modem? 005- How do I NULL-modem Text files without getting garbage? 006- How do I make a "NULL Modem" cable? 007- What is the maximum length for a NULL modem connection? 008- I have a Super Serial Card. What cable should I use? 009- How do I make a GS hardware handshake High-Speed modem cable? 010- What is the fastest modem I can use on my Apple II? 011- What telecom programs run on Apple II computers? 012- Where can I get ADT, ADTgs, Agate, Modem MGR, Spectrum ...? 013- What are the settings for the Apple Super Serial Card? 014- What are the Serial Pro card's dip switch settings? 015- What are the settings for an Apple Serial Interface Card? 016- What cable can I use to do NULL modem transfers with my IIc? 017- What cable(s) can I use to connect a modem to my IIc? 018- How can I connect a modem with a Dsub-9 socket to my IIgs? 019- What is the maximum modemming speed I can get from my IIgs? 020- How do I set up Hyperterm to do transfers with my Apple II? 021- How do I get an Applesoft program into a PC-DOS computer? 022- I want to use a fax modem with my //GS. Is this possible? 023- Can I do modem-to-modem transfers between my home computers? 024- What cable can I use to do Apple IIc <---> PC ADT transfers? 025- Where can I buy modem cables and NULL modem adaptors? From: Rubywand 001- How do I transfer files between my Apple and a PC or Mac? The best, most flak-free way to move stuff between your Apple II and PC or Mac is via a standard NULL modem transfer. (A NULL modem connection joins a serial port of the Apple II to a serial port of a PC, Mac, etc. via a NULL modem connector joining modem cables from each computer. Radio Shack and ThinkStuff sell NULL modem connectors/cables.) The usual way to get the most out of this connection is to have a telecom program on the Apple II talking to a telecom program on the PC or Mac. For more infor mation on standard NULL modem transfers see Q&A 004 below. A variation of the standard NULL modem setup is a software package plus cable specifically designed for transferring files between computers. For information on such a package, see Q&A 002 below. Other ways of doing a direct PC-Apple II transfer include ADT and Ap2222; and, for Mac-Apple II transfers, there is MacADT. These software packages include programs for both computers-- e.g. Apple II and PC-- which let the user do transfers via serial ports (ADT) or game port and printer port (Ap2222). They are, mainly, intended for moving whole A2 5.25" disks. For more information, see Q&A 003 below. Another option is to use a BBS-- perhaps your own company BBS-- or an internet website, ftp site, etc.. You upload from one machine and download with the other. For more information about uploading and downloading, see the Telecom-2 FAQs. A completely different approach is to move files on diskette. For PC transfers, this normally requires that either the Apple II or the PC have a plug-in card and disk drive which lets it read diskettes from the other machine. For example, an Apple II could have a PC Transporter board with a PC drive connected; or, the PC could have a TrackStar board with an Apple II drive connected. For more about TrackStar, see relevant information in Csa21MAIN1. Depending upon model, installed OS, and available utilities, Macs can exchange files with Apple II computers via ProDOS and HFS 3.5" diskettes. Macs with the A2 plug-in board can handle standard 5.25" A2 diskettes. A modified version of the above approach is for PC users to employ a utility which allows writing to HFS diskettes. Files can also be exchanged with PC's and Mac's using Zip disks. (See Csa2ZIPTF.) ---------------------------- From: SuperTimer and Rubywand If your other computer is a Mac, you can format a Mac HFS (standard) DS/DD 3.5" disk and the GS can read and write it if you have the HFS FST installed. That's how I exchange files with a Mac... On a PC, you can install a program called MacDrive 98. This program allows Windows 95 to read, write, and format HFS volumes. To transfer files from HFS media to ProDOS disk on the //e, //c, or //c+ you can use A2fx or HfsLink. The //e, etc. must have an 800k 3.5" drive connected to access 800k HFS diskettes. This method would also work for IIgs's which can not run a version of System supporting the HFS FST. ---------------------------- From: Ruud For Mac users, if the file arrives in a .zip or .sit form, it's easier to work with because it's 'protected' from being altered by the Mac file system (i.e having a resource fork added). An .shk file isn't protected since that is a native A2 format. Then it's a matter of getting the file onto a Mac *with an old-style disk drive*, mostly the ones that 'suck your disk in' by themselves, but some later ones - mainly in 68k machines, Powerbooks seem particularly good - work as well. Powermac drives are not reliable, while a 68k Powerbook or SE/30 works fine. So, after getting it onto the 68k, I unzip/unstuff the file to obtain the contained .shk, etc. files and let them be processed by ProType, which restores A2 file types. Then I put them onto a ProDOS disk mounted on the 68k Mac (using system 7.6.1) and restart ProType and let it change the types on the A2 ProDOS diskette again just to be sure. After booting the Prodos disk on the Apple II, it is just a matter of starting Shrinkit v3.4 to unshrink any .shk files. ---------------------------- From: MDRipley37 For Mac users, there is a shareware utility named "][2Mac" for transferring 5.25" diskettes from Apple II computers to Mac as IIe- and Bernie ][ the Rescue-compatible disk images. It works for transferring images from Mac to Apple II diskettes, too. I have used it for over a hundred transfers with no problems and Apple II disks that boot up just like the originals. ____________________________ From: Rubywand 002- How can I transfer and convert word processor files from an Apple II to a PC Microsoft format (DOS, Word)? There is a Sequential Systems package complete with cable named "CrossWorks" which lets you transfer Appleworks, Word Perfect, text, and other ProDOS files to a PC. It transforms them to a variety of PC formats (e.g. AppleWorks to/from Microsoft Works). An alternative is to convert the Apple II file to plain Text and send it that way. ____________________________ From: Bill Mackin 003- I've heard of ADT and ap2222pc. How do these packages work for transferring Apple II disks between an Apple II and a PC? Yesterday I downloaded ap2222pc.zip. It was written by some guy in Hong Kong. You buy a 25-pin male parallel port connector and two 8-pin DIP sockets from Radio Shack. He gives the wiring diagram for connecting 9 wires between them. You type in a 6502 assembly program on your apple at address 300. Save the program, shut things off, hook up the wire from your PC printer port to the Apple Game Controller socket, turn them on, and run his programs. It copies whole Apple disk images over to the PC, or PC to Apple, or individual files back and forth! It works great! I've already made 26 disk images from my old Apple disks (great for backup, too!) and have been playing the games from them, moving games around, etc. I only had one problem with the ap2222pc program; the first time I ran it, my PC was already in Windows and I had printed something to a HP LaserJet IV from it; when I turned the Apple on after hooking up the cable, the Apple locked up, giving me several different hi-res graphics screens in series, no beep, and no cursor. The problem went away when I turned the Apple on first, then the PC. ---------------------------- From: Ronny Svedman The only hook/problem with using ADT (Apple Disk Transfer) is getting the ADT program onto an Apple II disk for the first time. To do this you set your Super Serial Card to 300 bps, no parity, strip 8th bit. Then you boot your AppleII with DOS 3.3 from a disk with some free space, type IN#<whatever slot # your SSC is in> (usually, it will be Slot 2) and use a PC terminal program to send the ADT utility. The author has provided a text file that enters the monitor, types itself into memory, and BSAVE's itself to the disk. Amazingly clever! Then, you reboot the apple, setup adt for desired port, speed & diskdrive, do the same on the PC, and Voila: it works. From here it is really straightforward: you control everything from the apple side, using simple commands (there is good on-screen help). When it comes to transferring disk images from PC--> Apple II diskette, ADT does this for you. Simply put a DOS 3.3 formatted 16-sector disk in the drive. If you download a ProDOS image onto a DOS 3.3 formatted disk thats no problm, since ADT writes ALL of the disk, so you get a bootable ProDOS disk from a bootable ProDOS image. Likewise with Pascal and Apple Cp/M disks. ---------------------------- From: Rubywand ADT can transfer 5.25" 16-sector A2 disks from your Apple II to your PC or 5.25" .dsk disk image files from the PC to the Apple II. This includes DOS 3.3, ProDOS, and Pascal disks. (ADTgs will, at present, do only PC-to-Apple II disk image transfers.) The utility will not correctly transfer most copy protected disks to the PC; and, it will not transfer ProDOS-order (.po) disk image files to the Apple II. ADT requires a fairly simple NULL modem type connection. I used standard modem cables from each computer going to a NULL modem connector. Standard ADT also requires the Apple II side to have a Super Serial Card installed or to have an SSC-compatible serial port. The usual version of ADT will not work on a IIgs via the built-in serial ports because the IIgs Serial Controller IC is not compatible with the Controller used on the Super Serial Card. For PC-->IIgs 5.25" disk image transfers using the built-in modem serial port, IIgs owners can use ADTgs. Users of 8-bit Apples with non-Super Serial Card interfaces should try ADTcc. This is a modification of ADT by Paul Schlyter which runs well with the old Apple Communications Card and many other non-SSC interfaces. One more thing which is nice to know is that the ADT program you run on the PC to do disk transfers (adt.exe) definitely wants to run under PC DOS. If you are in Windows 95, 98, etc., you should restart your PC in DOS Mode to run Adt.exe. The ADT, ADTcc, and ADTgs packages include both the PC software and the Apple II software plus directions. (There is also a version of ADT for Mac.) ---------------------------- From: Delfs Here's an easier way to get the ADT program to the Apple II from an AT class computer. Set up the Apple II as suggested using the IN# command from a DOS 3.3 boot disk. On the AT computer side, get to a DOS prompt and Change-dir (cd) to get to the folder where the adtgs.dmp file is located. Then type the following two lines instead of worrying about the modem software: mode comX: baud=30 data=8 parity=n type adtgs.dmp >comX: Replace the "X" with the com port# (1 or 2) for the com port connected to the Apple II. This method is limited to com1 or com2 on the AT class computer, but works well across a null modem cable. I have verified this twice, both times at the normal speeds of the apple computers (IIe & IIgs) and using MSDOS6 and a MSWin9x DOS window. ____________________________ From: Rubywand 004- How do I transfer files between computers using NULL modem? You will need a NULL modem connector and each computer needs a modem cable and telecom program. A IIe or II+ will also need a serial card. ____________ ____________ | PC or Mac | | Apple II | | running a | | running a | | telecom | <--modem--> [NULL modem] <--modem--> | telecom | | program | cable [connector ] cable | program | |____________| |____________| "NULL modem" means "no modem". A NULL modem connector is just a pair of connectors wired 'back to back' with a few lines switched so that each computer views the other pretty much as though it were a modem. Radio Shack, ThinkStuff, and other places sell NULL modem adaptors in the form of small modules or short cables for a few dollars; or, you can make your own. On the Apple II side, you can choose from several good telecom programs. Since you would like to be able to do Z-modem transfers, good choices include Intrec's ProTerm-A2 3.1 (Enhanced IIe -- IIgs), MGR Software's Modem MGR (II+ -- IIgs), Agate (Enhanced IIe -- IIgs), AnsiTerm (IIgs), and Spectrum (IIgs). You can also choose from among many other programs. Generally, these support X-modem but do not support Z-modem. If you're running under a current version of Windows, HyperTerm works very nicely on the PC side. (For sending Text files from PC to Apple under HT, be sure to uncheck "send line enders" in the ASCII settings.) If there is a choice of terminal emulations, it seems best to stick with something simple, such as "TTY" or, even "none", or, if available, "auto-detect". (For transfers to an Apple II running ZLink, select "Auto-detect" in Hyperterm.) A good NULL modemming program for running under DOS is Telemate, commonly available as shareware. Many other telecom programs are available and work fine under current Windows, old Windows, and DOS. Similarly, there is a good selection of Mac telecom wares. To do transfers, you just connect the modem cable from each machine to the NULL modem connector. If your PC or Mac has a spare COM port, the connection can remain in place without disrupting normal net connections through the other COM port. [Modem to net] | modem cable COM1 ____ |______ ____________ | PC or Mac | | Apple II | | running a | COM2 | running a | | telecom | <--modem--> [NULL modem] <--modem--> | telecom | | program | cable [connector ] cable | program | |____________| |____________| If you can not use a separate PC or Mac port for your connection to the Apple II, you can move the PC modem cable connection from your net modem to the NULL modem for doing transfers or use a switch box. For a GS, the modem cable should be a "high speed" type which allows hardware handshaking and this option should be set in the GS telecom software. For best transfer rates, the same is true for other Apple II's with serial ports or boards (like the Super Serial Card) which can do hardware handshaking. Set the same format (8-N-1), flow control (Hardware or Xon/Xoff), and baud rate on each telecom program. Note: "8-N-1" means 8 data bits, No parity, 1 Stop bit. Today, most ports and cables will support hardware handshaking; so, this should be the usual flow control setting. (If it does not work, check your cable to see that connections match those suggested for your Apple II and interface. If you can not get hardware handshaking to work, then try Xon/Xoff software flow control.) A good first-try speed setting seems to be 9600 baud. If you get errors, try moving down to 2400 baud (or, in at least one reported instance, moving up to 19,200). An accelerated GS running Spectrum can connect with modern PC's running HyperTerm at 57.6k baud or better. Note: Spectrum, ProTerm 3.1, Modem MGR, and some other newer Apple II telecom programs do not require that you modify IIgs Control Panel settings for speed and handshaking. Since Spectrum directly accesses the GS serial port, speed, etc. settings are done in the program. (By the way, this frees-up Slot 2 -- the GS modem firmware Slot-- for any peripheral card which needs to have its Slot set to "Your Card" in the Control Panel.) Note: On the PC, HyperTerm allows setting the Port Configuration-- i.e. Format, Baud Rate, and Flow Control for COM1 or COM2-- for a particular setup which you can save under a name, like "GSxfers.ht". Whenever you start HyperTerm to do transfers to/from the GS, you need to Open GSxfers.ht (or whatever you name it) in order have your setup in place. Place each program in terminal mode-- often, this is the default mode. Or, the particular telecom program may have menu items or buttons you select for specific kinds of transfers. Next, you will usually select the function (send or receive) on each machine and the protocol. The protocol should be the same on both machines. Z-modem is the best choice for most single or multiple file transfers. (Text files can be an exception-- see the next question. A plain ASCII transfer will circumvent most problems but is slower; and, you may need to send and receive/capture files one-by-one instead of in batches.) Finally, you will select the file or files to send or "Open". At the start, some experimentation is likely to be involved in getting your computer-to-computer transfers going. For example, you may find that it matters which end you start first. (When using ZLink on the Apple II and doing an X-modem transfer, start the Send side first, then the Receive side.) If your setup works best starting Receive first, you may find that one telecom program or the other does not give you enough time to start Send-- i.e. it keeps "timing out". The fix is to change the program' s "Time Out", "Inactivity Delay", etc. setting. Note: Some telecom programs may expect an end-of-send signal which the sending program does not supply. Pressing CTRL-X or RETURN on the Apple II or ESC on the PC often seems to work okay for terminating the Send. ---------------------------- From: Jeff Blakeney You don't need to manually tell Spectrum or other modern telecom programs to receive a file each time you do a Z-modem transfer. Just make sure that you have Auto Receives turned ON. In Spectrum the setting is in the Settings/File Transfer/Receive Options... dialog. ____________________________ From: Rubywand 005- How do I NULL-modem Text files without getting garbage? The main problem in A2-PC Text file transfers is that Text files created by the PC use a CR _and_ an LF to end a line whereas Apple II-created Text files use just a CR. So; PC files show up on Apple II displays with annoying "#" or inverse "?" symbols; and, Apple II files show up on PC displays with long, un-terminated lines interspersed with block symbols. For PC-to-A2 Text file transfers, Z-modem, X-modem, etc. usually work fine if you have some way to deal with the extra Control characters, mainly line feeds. On the GS, Appleworks 5 does a good job of automatically cleaning out such garbage; and, Text editors like ShadowWrite and CoolWriter have options to quickly strip out offending line-feed Control characters. Some telecom programs, including Spectrum, have Text editors which can strip out Control characters and perform other manipulations to clea n up a file. An alternative is to do a plain ASCII Text transfer. (The PC telecom program should be told _not_ to add line feeds or "line enders".) Depending upon your A2 telecom program, the result may be saved from your Capture Buffer, captured directly to an on-disk Text file, or selected and saved from the Scrollback buffer. Similarly, for A2-to-PC Text transfers, you can use Z-modem or some other block transfer protocol if you have a PC utility which can convert Apple II text to text PC's like. For example, one way to send several Text files is to put them in a .SHK file, Z-modem them to the PC, and use Nulib (v3.24) to unshrink the files in PC Text format. Otherwise, you are probably better off doing a Text transfer. Set your A2 telecom program to "send LF's". If there is a "Prompting" option it should be OFF. Do an "ASCII Text", "Plain Text", etc. Send. The PC telecom program should be set to Receive Text if this option is available. If it is not, you will be able to select and save the text from the PC program's display or save the text from some capture buffer. Some programs with a "Receive Text" option may expect some end-of-send signal which the sending program does not supply. Pressing CTRL-X on the Apple II or ESC on the PC often seems to work okay for terminating the Send. For example, Telemate will ask if you wish to abort the transfer-- you answer "Y"es-- but, the file will still be saved on the PC. Other programs may expect you to click something to signal the end of a transfer. If you are using HyperTerm to receive text on your PC, you select "Stop" in the Transfer--Capture menu to end the transfer. ---------------------------- From: Edhel Iaur, Esq. Appleworks 5.x seems to do a pretty good job of cleaning up text files from the net. (e.g. it automatically clears out the annoying LF's which show up in most text file viewers.) There is, also, a standard Awks macro which will get rid of end-of-every-line CR's. ____________________________ From: Rubywand 006- Does anyone have directions for making a "NULL Modem" cable? A typical NULL modem is two Dsub 25-pin female sockets (call them "A" and "B") wired back-to-back as follows ... Socket-A Socket-B 2 -> 3 3 -> 2 4 -> 5 5 -> 4 6 & 8 -> 20 7 -> 7 20 -> 6 & 8 Note: 6 & 8 are connected at each socket. (That is, if you are making a cable instead of using back-to-back sockets, you do not want to run 6 and 8 separately to pin 20 on the other socket. For back-to-back sockets, it's okay to run separate short leads if you like.) A Dsub-25 female connector viewed from the front ,----------------------------------------. \ 13 12 11 10 09 08 07 06 05 04 03 02 01 / \ 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 / `------------------------------------' If you can find a couple old-style Dsub-25 plug casings, the sockets can be mounted and the casings can be glue-gunned together to make a nice compact unit. For Apple2-PC (or Mac, etc.) transfers, you plug the modem cable from the Apple II into one side of the NULL modem and the modem cable from the PC into the other side. If the PC has a 9-pin serial port connector, use a 9-to-25 adaptor cable to connect to the NULL modem. Similarly,for Mac users, if the Mac cable has a special connector, use a converter to a male Dsub-25M connector for plugging into the NULL modem. Places to get a NULL modem adaptor or cable MPJA/ Marlin P. Jones (800-652-6733; <A HREF="http://www.mpja.com">http://www.mpja.com</A> ) Radio Shack and other computer stuff stores ---------------------------- 007- What is the maximum length for a computer-to-computer NULL modem hardware-handshaking connection? Most texts agree that around 50 feet is the 'safe' maximum length. ---------------------------- 008- I'm using the Super Serial Card. What cable should I use to get Hardware Handshaking? According to a diagram in the "Modem Works" manual, there is a special modem cable recommended for connecting to a Super Serial Card to get hardware handshaking flow control: SSC side Modem side 25-pin 25-pin 2 -------> 2 3 <------- 3 4 -------> 4 5 & 8 <--- 5 6 <------- 8 7 <------> 7 20 ------> 20 For NULL modem transfers, the Modem side plugs into the NULL modem connector. ____________________________ From: Tae Song (White Wolf) 009- Does anyone out there in Net.Land have the pin connections to use for a GS CTS/RTS hardware handshake compatible "High-Speed" modem cable? View is looking into the cable connector/plug at the pins. Male Mini-Din 8 RS-232 Male Dsub-25M 6 7 8 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 3 4 5 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 2 DIN-8 Dsub-25M Signal Discription 3 2 TD (Transmit Data) 5 3 RD (Receive Data) 4,8 7 GND (Ground) 2 5 CTS (Clear to Send) 1 4,20 RTS & DTR (Ready to Send and Data Term Ready) 7 8 DCD (Data Carrier Dectect) Places to get a IIgs High-Speed modem cable: InTrec Software ( 888-PROTERM; <A HREF="http://www.intrec.com">http://www.intrec.com</A> ) MC Price Breakers ( 360-837-3042; <A HREF="http://www.mcpb.com">http://www.mcpb.com</A> ) Sellers of Mac supplies (IIgs cable is same as mini-8 Mac modem cable) ____________________________ From: David Empson, Richard Der, Rubywand, Hal Bouma 010- What is the fastest modem I can use on my Apple II? //e and earlier Apple II's: These require a serial card which usually plugs into Slot 2. In general, the card determines maximum connection speed for these computers. Many early serial cards max out at 9600 baud. Apple's Super Serial Card (SSC) and compatible serial cards max out at 19,200 baud. (Lightning Systems made a "Turbo ASB board" add-on for the SSC which extends speed to 230,400. A 1MHz Apple II with the SSC and Turbo ASB should be good for 57.6k baud.) IIc and IIc+: These machines have built-in serial ports which are generally compatible with software specified as requiring a Super Serial Card. Original IIc releases use a cheap method of generating the clock frequency for the serial ports. Most implementations based on the 6551 chip use a 1.8432 MHz crystal, which gives exact baud rates; but, these IIc's take the master system clock (14.31818 MHz in an American IIc) and divide it by eight to produce 1.7898 MHz. The 3% decrease in clock frequency produces a 3% drop in the baud rate, which is enough to prevent operation with some serial devices, particularly intelligent modems running at 1200 bps or faster. This is not always a problem, and I have successfully used one of these IIc's with a ZyXEL U-1496E modem and a direct connection to a IIgs at 9600 bps. I have had problems in other cases. Later motherboards use a crystal, (and, some original motherboards may have a crystal installed) resulting in much better behaviour. You can make a reasonable guess at whether you have the original motherboard by checking which firmware version is installed. From the BASIC prompt enter PRINT PEEK(64447) and check the displayed value against this list: 255 Original firmware- probably original motherboard 0 UniDisk 3.5 support- may be original or revised motherboard 3 or 4 Memory expansion card- revised motherboard In theory, the IIc's maximum baud rate is 19,200. Whether it can actually keep up with that rate is another question. 9600 should be fine. IIc+ baud rate generation is reliable and max speed is 19,200 baud. IIgs: Although the firmware IIgs Control Panel allows a top setting of 19,200, maximum speed for the built-in IIgs serial ports is about 230k baud. Spectrum and a few other telecom products directly control the ports and allow 57.6k transfers. ____________________________ From: Gareth Jones 011- What telecom programs run on Apple II computers? KERMIT: This runs on any Apple II. It comes in DOS 3.3 and ProDOS versions. It is free. It supports Kermit and X-Modem file transfer protocols; VT52, VT100, and dumb terminal emulations. It is a little harder to set up and use than some other programs, but works perfectly well once you've done that. On a GS, remember to turn the "DCD Detect" option in the modem control panel OFF, or it won't work. ZLink: a ProDOS system program that requires a IIe, IIc, or IIgs. It supports X-modem and Y-modem file transfers; VT100 and partial VT220 emulations. The "macro" program that comes with it is simple, but fine for some things, like auto-entering your password. A nice feature is that ALL the options are shown and set in a single screen display, reached by pressing Open-Apple-?. I used this program quite happily for a number of years, so it is probably worth a download to see if it meets your needs. Talk is Cheap 4.0: An excellent program for the IIe, IIc, or IIgs. It requires an accelerator chip (e.g. a Zip Chip) in a IIe or IIc to communicate over 4800 baud. With the accelerator chip, you're fine up to 19,200 baud. It has an excellent scripting language, which was used as the basis for Spectrum's scripting language. File transfer protocols are X-modem (various types, such as 4K X-modem and 1K X-modem) and Y-modem (for downloads). The manual is a good tutorial for telecommunications. You may be able to find an early shareware version on the nets or in your User Group's Library. ProTerm 3.1: I can't talk too much about this since I haven't used it. A demo is available for trying out. What I CAN say is that this has been the most popular commercial telecommunications program available for the Apple II. The program supports many emulations, every file transfer protocol I know (including Kermit), and if you have a mouse, it'll give a mouse and pull-down-menus environment. If you don't have one, you won't need it. Telcom: This is a recent discovery for me: a telecommunications program for the IIgs with X-modem uploads and downloads, Y-modem downloads, VT100 or ProTerm Special Extended terminal emulations. It runs only on the GS, and uses a mouse-and-menus interface implemented on the text screen. It is free, because it is a never-finished commercial product. The author, Jawaid Bazyar, would like your comments on it. This is similar to ZLink in features (except no macros), and cheaper, but GS only. Spectrum: This is the ONLY GS/OS telecommunications desktop program (i.e., standard menus, the system clipboard for cutting and pasting, etc.). VERY strong scripting language that even supports sounds, icons, fonts, colours, clickable buttons (like HyperCard). It supports most terminal emulations, many file transfer protocols (e.g. Z-modem, though not Kermit. Yet). The author and publisher have released version 2.0 and are committed to developing it further. ANSITerm: from Parkhurst Micro Products. Paul Parkhurst's program is supposedly the best colour ANSI graphics available on a GS. It supports macros, many file transfer protocols, and there is a demo version to try out. GS users only. ---------------------------- From: Rubywand Another very good program is Modem MGR from MGR Software. It runs on any Apple II and works with a wide range of modems, 80-column boards, and clock cards. MM supports popular protocols from X-modem through Z-modem and many terminal emulations. ---------------------------- From: Supertimer Agate offers Z-modem. Z-modem is a much better protocol, with a resume function (web browsers should take note) and powerful CRC-32 error checking. Agate was shareware, but the user decided he couldn't accept money for an unfinished product. None of the shareware checks were cashed. I think it is freeware now. ____________________________ From: Penman, Supertimer, Rubywand, MDRipley37 012- Where can I get ADT, ADTgs, ADTcc, Agate, Modem MGR, Spectrum, ProTerm, ap2222pc, ZLink, ][2Mac, MacADT, A2fx, HfsLink? ADT (Adt122) on Asimov, TikTok, and Ground <A HREF="ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/utility/">ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/utility/</A> <A HREF="http://abandonwarering.com/tiktok/">http://abandonwarering.com/tiktok/</A> (click on "Utilities") <A HREF="ftp://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/upl2000/Feb/">ftp://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/upl2000/Feb/</A> ADTgs (ADTgs91) on TikTok and Ground <A HREF="http://abandonwarering.com/tiktok/">http://abandonwarering.com/tiktok/</A> (click on "Utilities") <A HREF="ftp://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/upl2000/Feb/">ftp://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/upl2000/Feb/</A> ADTcc (ADTcc121) on TikTok <A HREF="http://abandonwarering.com/tiktok/">http://abandonwarering.com/tiktok/</A> (click on "Utilities") ADTux (ADT for UNIX) from Mike Hall <A HREF="http://www.enteract.com/~mghall/apple/a2unix.html">http://www.enteract.com/~mghall/apple/a2unix.html</A> Agate v069 on Uni-kl.de (.bsq) and Ground (.sdk and .dsk) <A HREF="ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/apple2/utilities/">ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/apple2/utilities/</A> <A HREF="ftp://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/useful.stuff/Disks/">ftp://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/useful.stuff/Disks/</A> Modem MGR on Ground and Trenco <A HREF="ftp://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/apple8/Comm/Modem.mgr/">ftp://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/apple8/Comm/Modem.mgr/</A> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.gno.org/pub/apple2/appledos33/comm/term/modem.mgr/">ftp://ftp.gno.org/pub/apple2/appledos33/comm/term/modem.mgr/</A> Spectrum from My eSource <A HREF="http://www.myesource.com/sevenhills/applesoftware/iigs/index.htm">http://www.myesource.com/sevenhills/applesoftware/iigs/index.htm</A> ProTerm from Intrec <A HREF="http://www.intrec.com/">http://www.intrec.com/</A> Ap2222pc on TikTok and Asimov <A HREF="http://abandonwarering.com/tiktok/">http://abandonwarering.com/tiktok/</A> (click on "Utilities") <A HREF="ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/utility/">ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/utility/</A> ZLink on Ground, Apple Blossom, and TikTok <A HREF="ftp://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/useful.stuff/Disks/">ftp://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/useful.stuff/Disks/</A> <A HREF="http://people.delphi.com/appleblossom/modemdisk.html">http://people.delphi.com/appleblossom/modemdisk.html</A> <A HREF="http://abandonwarering.com/tiktok/">http://abandonwarering.com/tiktok/</A> (click on "Utilities") ][2Mac on Adam's HomePage <A HREF="http://macadam.dyndns.org/">http://macadam.dyndns.org/</A> MacADT on Uni-kl.de <A HREF="ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/apple2/mac/">ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/apple2/mac/</A> A2fx (A2fx08) on TFFE and GSWV <A HREF="ftp://apple2.tffenterprises.com/pub/apple2/8bit/hfsreaders/">ftp://apple2.tffenterprises.com/pub/apple2/8bit/hfsreaders/</A> <A HREF="http://www.grin.net/~cturley/a2zine/Utils/">http://www.grin.net/~cturley/a2zine/Utils/</A> HfsLink (HfsLink10) on TFFE and GSWV <A HREF="ftp://apple2.tffenterprises.com/pub/apple2/8bit/hfsreaders/">ftp://apple2.tffenterprises.com/pub/apple2/8bit/hfsreaders/</A> <A HREF="http://www.grin.net/~cturley/a2zine/Utils/">http://www.grin.net/~cturley/a2zine/Utils/</A> ____________________________ From: Tom Kelly and David Empson 013- What are the settings for the Apple Super Serial Card? Here is some information about Super Serial Card (SSC) Settings: Recomended Slots Slot 1 for terminal use (e.g. printer) Slot 2 for communication use (e.g. modem) Jumper Block- configures serial I/O lines. This does not set the operating mode of the card. Operating mode is set via the DIP switches. For typical "terminal" (printer) use, label is right side up (arrow points DOWN), DIPs are set for "terminal" operation, and a printer cable connects to the printer. This jumper setting can also be used with a modem cable to make a NULL modem connection to another computer. (DIPs would then be set for "communication" operation.) For typical "communication" (modem) use, label is upside down (arrow points UP), DIPs are set for "communication" mode and a modem cable connects to the modem. To make a NULL modem connection to another computer, use a modem cable + NULL modem adaptor. Note that RS-232-C signals on the SSC use negative-true logic; that is, they are true at 0v and false at +5 volts. SW1 Dip Switch 1-4 Settings Baud SW1-1 SW1-2 SW1-3 SW1-4 SW1-8 undefined on on on on not used 50 on on on off " 75 on on off on " 110 on on off off " 135 on off on on " 150 on off on off " 300 on off off on " 600 on off off off " 1200 off on on on " 1800 off on on off " 2400 off on off on " 3600 off on off off " 4800 off off on on " 7200 off off on off " 9600 off off off on " 19200 off off off off " Note: SW1-1 thru SW1-4 settings can be overridden by software. SW1 Dip Switch 5-7 Settings SW1-5 SW1-6 SW1-7 "Communication" (modem) operation on on on "Terminal" (printer) operation off on on* Note Switch SW1-5 and SW1-6 help define the operation mode of the card. 1-5 1-6 Operation Mode on on Communications off on Printer on off Emulate Apple Serial Interface Card with P8 PROM off off Emulate Apple Serial Interface Card with P8A PROM Switches SW1-7 and SW2-7 select between the standard and secondary Clear To Send signals when the jumper block is set for "terminal" (printer) operation. 1-7 2-7 pin on off CTS off on SCTS If the jumper block is set "Communication" (modem) operation, SW1-7 should always be ON and SW2-7 should always be OFF.