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@brolin oh hell yeah i’ll read this when i finish !!
@brolin ok awesome that makes me excited to read the rest of it! yeah the pale king intrigues me too… there is something unique and powerful about a bunch of fragments that weren’t quite drawn together…..
@brolin hmm basically i thought the first section was pretty stuffy, the second section was more interesting, really liked the third part, now i’m just starting part four out of five. i think it has definitely gotten better as it goes on, but for now i think savage detectives was more tightly written
also whenever i read a posthumously published book im always thinking like “dam he toootally would have taken that part out in the final edit” which is a thing i do for no reason that hurts my enjoyment
all that said i think bolano is a genius and all his writing is fantastic
have you read it ?
@bugleague hi bugleage, i like this joke and found myself heartily chuckling. thank you for bringing light to this day. idi blasks
@moldgold true, i was going to vote for jill stein until biden dropped out. i didn't realize it could have an impact on funding. so maybe that is the right way to go. i wish our votes actually mattered for the election!!!!
@evilswampmonster that's gotta be it
@meggplant this is relatable and real…….
@ztbd experts claim it is "funny" when the guy slips on banana peel
@ztbd loooooooooooooooooooooooooool
and not to "butt in" but as a "fellow mobot employee"... yes they are
it is ironic that cloud strike, a company with name of cloud strike, actually struck a cloud this friday morning
@brolin we could do it so much better.......
@starjump i love ghost trick!!!!!!! i think i will replay it soon. i was listening to the soundtrack today
@brolin o damn i need to do that
@starjump wow decker looks cool as hell
@moldgold being dead rocks. you should get them to come play in stl using your diy magic
@evilswampmonster bad :(
@moldgold wow i really like that song you were on with mike! it's awesome
@bugleague i have a lot of complicated thoughts about steve jobs (more than bob hope and johnny cash for sure) and in my heart there's an evil devil steve jobs and an angel artist steve jobs that i pray to occasionally and i really want to believe ol' steve would hate this ai shit. probably he wouldn't, but i wish angel steve jobs were here to tell tim cook to shove it
@brolin yes it is rather wild i think it was the first console with a built in modem! the way you do it is by having a raspberry pi act as a fake dialup phone line thing using a usb->line adapter...... and dreamcast fanatics have made a bunch of new servers so you can play multiplayer stuff, it's fun!
i love flounder for being accessible by old stuff
@bugleague ya i agree with u, the more ive thought about it the more i like how they did it. doesnt fully erase my qualms but im prepared to say it's a quitegood movie
@starjump i've enjoyed reading your thoughts on tv glow too, definitely a film that does not go as deep as the depths of itch.io but what film can claim that lofty accolade
@bugleague i agree with everything u say. i do think the ending colors the rest of the movie and makes it more interesting. like, the expectation is that he will someday find his way out of the nightmare world and the fact that he doesnt kinda makes you go "oh that's what the movie is about". i think the weakness of that is that you have to get to the end of the movie to have that realization and it makes for a weird first viewing experience.
the other thing mothbaby and i were talking abt after we saw it is that the movie kind of uses suicide as part of its metaphor in a weird way that kinda makes it seem like it's pro suicide? i dont think it is but the concept of burying your current self to free your real (trans) self being linked to literally ending your life is strange (speaking of life is strange, this movie reminded me of life is strange).
but overall yeah i think the more i think about it the more i think i liked the movie a lot. feels like reflecting on it has made me like it more than i did when i was watching it
also ive already told this story to mothbaby and X so i will cease bragging after this but this movie shows a clip from tux and fanny in it and an essay i wrote about tux and fanny was printed in a booklet that came with the first vhs release of tux and fanny. so basically im a character in this movie (much like you are in the bear season 3)
@moldgold classic
@ztbd thank u haha. at the core of things i am pretty ok :-)
@brolin ooooooh cool it looks very nice
@brolin ok good to know, i'll try it out. yeah it's so bad out there now :(
@starjump thanks haha. it's so crazy
@evilswampmonster that's awesome. im a huge fan of youtube on the ipad
@ztbd dam i forgot about kirk camerons perfect banana. forgot we already proved god.....
@uncle-altoid yes u have interpreted my cool "generation Z" words correctly... i am on the tea train. glad to be here
@bugleague do u think if steve actually went to hooters he would die like icarus
@uncle-altoid omg r u housesitting in stl this summer???
@bugleague holy crap lol
@punkreflex oh wow! yeah it really sneaks up on you. i so get what you were saying abt how it was in the background and now it's like, more pronounced... have experienced that for sure -_-
@punkreflex @uncle-altoid thats the lou i met too!!!! they were so cool and were also reading bolano and le guin literally my literary twin i was amazed. someone should tell them abt flounder
@punkreflex not to psychoanalyze you over flounder my friend but that's literally the kind of OCD i had for most of my life... i think you are making the right decision by getting therapy for it. it is anxiety and not good and, rather paradoxically, will be the thing that makes things go not right -_- much love from a fellow human bean <3
@starjump ikr?? i'm so sad about what happened at ZA/UM... i hope the writers will find a way to regroup and make another game someday. i was listening to interviews with robert kurvitz and that guy is so smart it's crazy lol
@bugleague frog day :-)
@punkreflex nice and dang probly a different person i met a lou once too and she was really cool also
@punkreflex mmmm was she older seeming (30s?) and where did you meet her?
@uncle-altoid ohhhh yayyyy yay!!! praying for you
@em i relate heavily to this i have been buying too much things for my place lately i bought 7 new lamps but also lamp light is so good
@punkreflex aww thx ^_^
@evilswampmonster it's so coooooooooool :0
@ztbd thank u for this Link
@ztbd i really like that forest park painting. also your reading of the roy orbison story at the open mic was so good. the tone was perfect
@evilswampmonster it was so sad :-(
@evilswampmonster i also started watching house because u were talking abt it!!! im four episodes in. just got to the one with the babies ;-;
@punkreflex dam im green with envy at your day that sounds awesome
@mothbaby i feel that dawg obvi rotting isn't great but it's sometimes just as weird to be caught in a state of limbo where you know you're depressed but you're just kind of doing your little life loop anyway... i guess the best outcome here is coming out of the depression eventually, realizing it wasn't that deep, and being glad to have sustained onesself... the worse outcome being still depressed and not able to figure out the underlying reasons for it.
right now i'm blaming the weather and i truly believe that's the reason... here's hoping
@ztbd tanks ^_^ :-)
@uncle-altoid i just realized u messaged me! i dont remember what my dnd char was but im glad easter christmas is remembered. i remember those 2 dnd sessions fondly. i like yr last post abt yr dreams :)
@mothbaby even multiple people outside of flounder i know have been having crazy dreams.......... what da heck
@moldgold can't believe you genre stunners are fucking around with the punk rock loving populous like that
@punkreflex it was good to see you! :)
@moldgold that first guy was so funny. apparently he had just moved here so i get it. but it's so funny to come to the experimental open mic and be like "she's got it all, she makes me go woah, she makes me go oh oh"
@bugleague those pirate names are so good
@brolin lol thats wild i remember when future islands went on letterman my dad was like this guy's craaaazyyy
@alex tibetan monks came to my town when i was in high school and created one of these. it was really cool to see
@punkreflex thats awesome and i love that yalls relationship is so sweet :)
@moldgold are you, the illustrious moldgold, submitting to the tmbg zine? i'm def gonna try to. is there any need for art or writing over the other?
also i'm home tonight i could come get that table or you could drop it off whatever woiks :-)
@meggplant that sounds absolutely awful and i’m sorry that happened 2 u :-(
@alex oh man damn that sucks!! wow
@ztbd it was! it rocked, ive never seen so many zines in one place
@alex whoa does that affect you/your coworkers at all?
@evilswampmonster i feel that. i'm consistently surprised i'm functioning at all it's so cold :((((
@meggplant hi pal!!
@alioop thank u!! yes, it’s always a challenge and a strange mix of good and bad. the guilt is real. families seem to love guilt, i’ve never felt guilt deeper than with my parents :P
@moldgold i had to answer 1,000,000,000 calls about it earlier
@ztbd congrats!!!
@punkreflex :-)
@evilswampmonster i am sorry to have started you on this path of ill fortune
@moldgold bruv sadly i can't go back to tidal i don't have it in me but if you wanna split up the plan that's #finewithme
and online for sure, in person everyone i know is lovely and would never do that
@bugleague he's a good guy to read i recommend black paradox and hellstar remina
@bugleague
https://ww7.manganelo.tv/chapter/manga-kf961388/chapter-41
@ztbd i really like these recent paintings you've been posting
@bluet just wanted to let you know that after reading your page i have started to say 'yeyuh' in my daily life
@moldgold post that shit
@evilswampmonster aww thanks (your real name), and don't worry at all about "making the post about yourself" ... i think relating to/identifying with pain is good and helpful and also it makes me feel comforted that other people go through this stuff. it really is crazy, and i don't know if you can relate to this part too but it's that weird thing where like, at the end of the day, were an observer to look at things "objectively", my parents aren't the worst parents ever (though they are far from the best, of course). but in some ways that comes with it's own difficulties... sorting the good from the bad, keeping these people in your life but at a distance you're comfortable with, choosing which battles to fight and which to let go... it can get really hard. i wish you luck out there :)
@bluet i didnt know what a nugget couch was but now i want one
@moldgold good luck
@ztbd it was the moment open mic lol. i havent been to the one at heavy anchor either. i have a fear that all other open mics are swarms of acoustic guitarmen
@punkreflex yes i think i will be there! :-)
@moldgold thanks. it’s been kind of classic visit with my parents. also i found that picture of J building a hotwheel track onto your arm the other day. kid has always been cute :-V
@moldgold rip lol
@evilswampmonster this i believe
@mothbaby the solution is to find a real nice painting and strap it to your monitor so you can look at it while "working"
also i love that your cats are in every dream
@evilswampmonster the rare non-reply flounder message... i found an al purdy poem collection in chicago and i bought it and am reading it :-)
@ztbd thank youuu!!! :)
@moldgold lol which coworker
@evilswampmonster wow i loved that. i did not know about al purdy
@punkreflex :-)
@evilswampmonster wow im excited abt yr zine !!
@evilswampmonster i hope u get better soon!!!!!! :-)
@brolin nice, yeah i don't read it too often but it scratches an "office drama" itch for sure
@big-green-girl cannot overstate to you enough how much i am looking forward to a sad winter. i think it will fix all my problems.
@moldgold222 so when does mold gold cover steely dan
@punkreflex ? :)
@uncle-altoid glad to hear things are going well. i miss ya! ?
@evilswampmonster flounder and the city
@punkreflex <3
@moldgold222 i can confirm beck had no projects before beck as he is a dog. his project is to be a dog
@evilswampmonster i'll b there probs! :-)
@mellita hell yeah. here's to good unreal words?
@evilswampmonster i really like fievel is glauque. go down softly is my fav. good band #goodband
@evilswampmonster is it shakespeare in the park yer going to? me and several other flounderfolk will be there! we will look for ya
@alex i want to read this bad poem article
@alex that's the only funny old movie i ever seen. i tried to watch airplane once and it was insufferable
@evilswampmonster come high as hell
@danielonit happy birthday!!
@evilswampmonster :) :) :)
@moldgold that picture of noomi and bandit is so so cute
@evilswampmonster i can relate so much to your thoughts on anxiety. self-acceptance and perception of how other other people act is so tied together, it's wild. i still have a really hard time with believing in "my own truth" sometimes. i wish you all the best :)
AND my grandma is also super anxious! probably the most anxious person i know! she has been afraid to drive over bridges for the last like 30 years. but i think we slowly realized that was an excuse and she's really just afraid to go see anyone or do anything. which is more sad :(
@bugleague HOLY MOLE u got a real live picture of something strange amazing and powerful, it revealed itself to you
@ztbd i have a roland 404a and i have no idea how to use it, i press the buttons things happen i twist the dial things happen the roland 404a exists to create entropy i wish you the best in learning, friend
@big-green-girl dam you truly can't fuck eyes and that should serve as a lesson for all of us
@evilswampmonster thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu :) :)
@punkreflex glad you liked it!! it's kinda hard to wrap my head around what i would say about it too. it has powerful aesthetic both visually and like, spiritually.
@bugleague i agree but i am still inflamed. les mis they made it good i swear. the guy steals a loaf of bread
@ztbd :) that album rules, señor coconut is very cool. yes steely dan is good against my will, deacon blues is the sign and symbol of my inevitable eventual divorced fatherhood
@big-green-girl these folk are all over the place. i wonder how people will describe us when we're old. "my grandpa lived his whole life without the neurolink even when everyone uploaded their brainimagery" something like that. also your new poem made me Laugh At Work
@punkreflex have u seen orlando the 1992 film? i recommend
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@milknoir thank u very much !! :)
@milknoir i really liked your writing on bread. i love the concept of the constant generation of sourdough baked into those who make it. beautiful stuff
@bugleague cryptid image on old hard drive, poetry
@bugleague NO please do tell
@princess-jesus thank u very much!!
@alex enjoyed your writeup on chairs. i agree the chair's place in society deserves to be questioned, and the dynamics between seating and mindset are fun to think about. like, where does the footstool factor in. no footstool at job, job hates footstool
is there any place on the web where one could read your neopets info request writeup? i was thinking about that recently
@funkengine :-) bandit and beck are definitely kindred spirits. i think if they met they would know and understand each other
@princess-jesus sam hyde, who i guess is a neo-nazi?
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@selenotropic your telescoping poem is so cool
@funkengine dawg i feel ya i spent most of yesterday afternoon in bed, i watched a seinfeld coats and jackets compilation where they edited together every time coats or jackets get mentioned on seinfeld. fog time
@big-green-girl holy shit. i can't believe people still even talk about winnie the pooh these days. it's fucked up. it's really fucked up. thank you for setting the record straight
@bugleague
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@ztbd they were building a giant take out box i think. and selling food out of it maybe??
and haha. i love making art and oftentimes i am Proud Of My Art but i would prefer not to commodify my art to survive mr burning man
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@ztbd one time this older guy made mothbaby, moldgold and me watch an extremely long video of him building something for burning man. it was excruciating. i don't understand burning man, especially the "burning a bunch of wood for no reason" part. seems bad. i respect your decision to abstain
@yesworms i like my dog and i think dogs are good. puppy is hard and they wake you up at night a lot at first. then they become good dog
@big-green-girl welcome to flounder and i'm dumping my entire bottle of apple cider vinegar in my water bottle right now
@ztbd i will def hit u up! i've been really enjoying it and would prefer it not to go away. i don't know if u've seen brawsh play, our dm is bren from brawsh and they do a really really good job i am always starstruck by their improv skills. also the term dungeon executive is really funny
@mothbaby/bugleague i have been thinking about barefoot is legal lately. i am beginning to believe in the power of bare feet. feet should touch ground. i'm not afraid to say it
@uncle-altoid very difficult juggling horse car and dog all at once. half my day is spent running around my dog barn i can't imagine having a horse too. last night i had a dream i was in the times of the earliest humans going around talking to people about their personal politics
@ztbd thank u for coming and reading at the show last night! and for doodling!
@princess-jesus
@bugleague @punkreflex y’all are too kind now i am crying. this means a lot, for real.
@bugleague i laughed really hard at all those poems and buying baby shoes is a powerful poem too
@princess-jesus i know what you mean deeply. as a kid i lived next to a little wooded lake - most nights you'd hear 1000 frogs. sometimes i'll camp near big frog noise and it feels very nostalgic.
kept an eye on the arch. something is going on with that thing as @funkengine knows well
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@funkengine happy birthday to the good cat Bandit. cant wait to see him heelying down my block
@evilswampmonster thank u so much !! :)
@princess-jesus okay! i will do it and avoid the hole
@bugleague wow i am going to check out all tomorrows, i actually have all yesterdays and didn't realize it was part of a duology(?)! enjoying yr writeups !!
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@ztbd unfortunately, some of us are never meant to pass VASLAR'S GATES and we must accept that, though heavy be our hearts :(
@princess-jesus please do! :)
@bugleague and mothbaby was that motherlode? fancy pants was the goat. bloons was god's honest truth. i do think roblox and minecraft have just about wiped out the miniclip genre
there is a website, glorioustrainwrecks.com, where people make dorky little games and put them online. it captures a little of that energy. i put some little games on there back when i was making little games. here is a link to one called HELLBALL: YOU ARE THE BALL
https://www.glorioustrainwrecks.com/node/11653
@princess-jesus princess jesus! that sucks. yes, taking your time is important. life is filled with so much time, so much. hope the future conversation goes well.
i think closure can be real. closure is a mindset
@bugleague thank u for the kind words my friend <3
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@bugleague hi bugleague, nice to see you on flounder. i'm also glad you are asking one of the most important questions of our time, which i will endeavor to answer to the best of my abilities below
the short answer is yes, the guy from pbs spacetime is hot. part of that is of course the australian accent. another part is he is so smart, so smart in fact that i lose the plot halfway through every video. but i keep watching, because his voice explaining things is relaxing anyway. another part is that i think he is just hot. he feels like one of those guys that would be hotter in person than on video. thank you for reading
@mothbaby thank you!! and i am honored to be sitting in this boring as hell meeting with you. one of many
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@moldgold first of all, pretty sure that was a poem and not a short story? second of all, if, like us true nightboy fans ("nightheads"), you had seen Down With The Duke: The Poet Lives In All Of Us (i'm sure you're at least aware of it? the 6 minute documentary that aired on those tv stations that play tiktok clips 24/7? centering on the life and times of one duke nightboy leading up to the moments of his untimely demise at the hands of a slice of (pepperoni) casey's pizza?), you would know that he becomed a ghost and submitted that as a ghost
@ztbd understandable! dogs are curious creatures. i used to have a dog who would similarly strive to create situations. speaking as one of the billion parents who believes their child is a genius, if you ever DO want to try a meeting, lmk. he's super chill! lol. and thank you for the kind words on: the minizine
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@evilswampmonster hot dang that photographer really did capture the colorful beauty of mushrooms
@princess-jesus sorry to hear you are going through it, princess jesus. life is so weird with these weird tiers of love and friendship and such. complicated, and occasionally truly so insane it'll make your mind bend. yeesh! wishing you strength
@ztbd if your dog ever needs a dog friend to play with, let it be known that i too am in possession of: a dog. he is a sweet guy who likes having friends
@evilswampmonster fungi is crazy. a truly mysterious everyday occurence. hope yr migraine recedes quickly :)
@em i read 'the return', and ended up picking up the whole short story collection. i've read a few of them at this point. he has such a fun writing style, like someone you know just sharing some weird story they heard with you. a new fan of this bolano character !
@ztbd thank u so much !! :) :)
@ztbd it was good to see you too! i can relate to your quandry. i have a six year old brother who is addicted to minecraft. it seems to be 90% of what he thinks about/talks about. at first i found it endearing because i too was in love with minecraft earlier in my life. i went to the very first minecraft convention in las vegas like a real lil dork. but now it's beginning to terrify me because it really does consume the life of a kid. i have become more and more turned off by video games. wonder what josie would have thought :0
@ztbd yes it is me! good to see u on flounder dot online :)
@moldgold thank u!! :)
@em, no i have not! i will check it out :)
