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Comment by 🎲 rellwood

Re: "Maze of MURDERS"

In: s/ascii-art

Thanks for the feedback.

- A turn-around option will be easy enough to add. I'll do that.

- I can't resize the ASCII art visuals without a total overhaul, not to mention a loss of detail which is sparse enough as it is. What if I put the navigation links above the visuals?

- I'm hoping more players will play, decreasing the emptiness. Maybe I should think about adding other stuff.

- The turnip thing is still experimental. As I see how people play the game, I'll modify them to suit.

🎲 rellwood [OP]

2023-12-29 Β· 6 months ago

21 Later Comments ↓

🐐 satch · 2023-12-29 at 04:19:

Yes please put the navigation links above the visuals.

🐐 satch · 2023-12-29 at 04:34:

Also, maybe don't give wall-kits 30 points, as this perhaps too large a disincentive against using them. It's too early to tell for sure but I thought to mention it.

🎲 rellwood [OP] · 2023-12-29 at 05:13:

Good call. I'll reduce the points of the wall-kits to 5, like most other items. I'll put navigation above the ASCII art.

πŸ‘€ AnoikisNomads Β· 2023-12-29 at 05:40:

I just checked the game on my comp - I'm using the amfora client in a fullHD terminal. even there the graphics are higher than the screen. I understand that reworking the ASCII art will be a bit of work but it would be worth it. most of the screens are empty halls/walls anyway, reducing the height of those will be trivial, leaving only the screens with actual things in it.

🐐 drh3xx · 2023-12-29 at 12:49:

Cool! Has a kind of Monster Maze vibe to it.

I'd echo the other comments.

Unfortunately I only found a turnip so far, 2 sleeping players and 1 dead player and I've explored maybe 60% of the map.

I see you use a random value to prevent caching; @skyjake as one of the major clients (any idea on exact marketshare?) is there any chance you could add an option to disable caching on a domain by domain or URI regex basis? Using a random value will work (excluding minimal chance of clashes) but it eats up a fair amount of the allowable URI length.

🐐 satch · 2023-12-29 at 16:41:

Love the game. I finished my map and the game ended? I thought I was going to be able to leave the maze at some point. Also, how come I can't kill or steal from murderers?

Now that the map is done, here is what my page looks like (with the completed map censored):

Maze of MURDERS

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X = your location

G = treasure

T = turnip (current or former position)

B = dead body

E = maze exit

Notice there are no links or actions I can take.

πŸ•ΉοΈ skyjake [...] Β· 2023-12-29 at 17:03:

@drh3xx Note that Lagrange does not cache contents of any request that occurs via a link clicked on a page. Cached contents are only used when navigating back/forward in history or at startup when restoring open tabs. These random query strings do nothing to affect Lagrange's behavior.

In Preferences, you can set Content > Cache size to 0 to prevent all forms of caching, to see how that feels. (Not super great, IMHO.)

πŸ•ΉοΈ skyjake [...] Β· 2023-12-29 at 17:07:

Which one of you stole all my turnips? πŸ˜„

🎲 rellwood [OP] · 2023-12-29 at 17:43:

@satch The idea is that once you've completed the map and are ready to leave the maze, head back to the entrance and return to the surface there. That'll end your game and show your final score.

🎲 rellwood [OP] · 2023-12-29 at 18:01:

@AnoikisNomads I've moved the navagation links to the top and added a turn around option, as you suggested. Thanks!

@satch That's a good idea to make it possible to kill and rob conscious murders. I'll add that. That'll make players think twice about committing murder in the first place.

@skyjake Thanks for the caching info re. Lagrange. I added the random string because I found that other browsers aren't nearly as sensible as yours and would cache everything.

🐐 satch · 2023-12-29 at 22:16:

@rellwood sorry for not being more clear. I know the idea is that at the end of the game you can head back to the entrance and return to the surface. The problem is that at some point, I became stuck in map view mode with no links displaying to take me back to action view.

🎲 rellwood [OP] · 2023-12-29 at 22:28:

@satch Ah I see. I fixed that bug. You should be able to escape the map now. :) I have also made it possible to execute conscious murderers--in the name of justice, of course!

🐐 satch · 2023-12-29 at 22:43:

Ok sweet, yes your fix worked. I still cannot kill the sleeping murderer right in front of me, however. Also, I have a link to execute waking murderers but it doesn't seem to do anything.

🐐 satch · 2023-12-29 at 22:52:

Now my character sees only the # Maze of MURDERS header and nothing else...

β˜•οΈ johan Β· 2023-12-30 at 19:45:

absolutely lovely ascii arts! got some wolf3d vibes. only thing to address from my view is that there is not much to do once you have murdered all the sleeping players near the exit and stole all their things (sorry). took a pretty long tour and explored about fifty percent of the map but found nothing and no one.

🐐 satch · 2023-12-30 at 20:25:

@johan that’s just because this game is pretty much over as I already stole most of the treasures 😝

β˜•οΈ johan Β· 2023-12-30 at 20:47:

that did strike me as an explanation... this game really brings out the worst in us, in a fun way. anyway I also liked the yelling and carving features. close to a local instance of Castledon

🎲 rellwood [OP] · 2023-12-30 at 23:01:

Thanks, @satch for the bug reports. I fixed the execute-a-murderer feature, which gives the players the opportunity to "serve justice" (and rob) without becoming a murderer themselves. Also, congrats. on the win!

@johan I'm glad you like the art...anyway a new game has now begun so now's your chance to get in there and hoard.

🎲 rellwood [OP] · 2023-12-31 at 00:59:

I've added a daily limit of play to 30 minutes which should make the wall-kits more valuable (so you can hope to survive the night) and threat of starvation more real.

πŸš€ stack Β· 2024-01-05 at 22:42:

Navigation... In Lagrange, pressing the ALT key with a number does a virtual click on the first 10 links...

If you manage to keep the first few links for consistent navigation directions - even if the direction is not available (Label as not available and just send it to an error page) -- navigation would be much easer!

🎲 rellwood [OP] · 2024-01-09 at 05:09:

@stack Good idea. I'll add that!

I've been thinking about adding a bulletin board to the game for discussion. Do you think that would be a good idea? Or, myabe I could request a sub-space on BBS. Suggestions?

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πŸŒ’ s/ascii-art

Maze of MURDERS β€” I just finished programming an ASCII art Gemini multiplayer game. It's called "Maze of MURDERS." Give it a try and send any feedback you have. Thanks! The URL is [gemini link]

πŸ’¬ rellwood Β· 23 comments Β· 5 likes Β· 2023-12-29 Β· 6 months ago