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From: Doc O'Leary <droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com>
Subject: Re: Web considered harmful
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2022 18:42:12 -0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <stmge3$o3q$1@dont-email.me>
For your reference, records indicate that
meff <email@example.com> wrote:
Largely I think this thread is about technology people lamenting a
past where the net was only for other technology people. But the net
is infinitely wide. There's space for everyone on here. There doesn't
need to be gatekeeping on the net. We're not running out of internet
any time soon.
I would argue somewhat the opposite. We *are* definitely running out of
Internet that is free and open for people. That especially applies to
the web, where large corporations have exercised vast power to manipulate
people to act against their own best interest. Complaints of
“gatekeeping” on Usenet ring hollow; if the “space” provided by Facebook
and Twitter are more to your liking, go there and try to have this kind
of discussion.
With HTTP/2 and HTTP/3 this doesn't necessarily need to be
true. HTTP/2 and HTTP/3 is good enough at this point to give you a
duplex channel.
HTTP/3 is so different from HTTP/2 that they shouldn’t even be discussed
as being related protocol. It leaves me stepping back even further from
the request semantics and question what people are even looking to
accomplish. Too many things (e.g., microservice APIs) are jammed through
HTTP simply because web stacks are so common, not because they’re a good
way to get the job done.
So, if anything, I’m lamenting the past where the web was *just* the web.
It was a particular kind of information system, exchanging mainly HTML
documents, that people could easily read and link to. Then it lost sight
of the Unix Philosophy and tried to become everything to everybody. So
(again, in full acknowledgement of the irony of discussing this on Usenet
when so many people have had their attention absorbed by web forums
controlled by social media companies) I ask you: what do you think the
WWW *shouldn’t* do?
--
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly
Parent:
Re: Web considered harmful (by meff <email@example.com> on Fri, 4 Feb 2022 02:38:31 -0000 (UTC))
Children:
Re: Web considered harmful (by meff <email@example.com> on Sat, 5 Feb 2022 23:24:15 -0000 (UTC))