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Re: "Recommended email client"
mutt. And toss HTML crap into the garbage -- it is always crap.
May 29 · 3 weeks ago
🚲 Aelspire [OP] · May 29 at 10:03:
Thanks for all recommendations! I've checked Claws Mail but found some interesting solution:
Sync IMAP with local Maildir via isync/mbsync and I'm not sure what next. But I see bit potential with this solution. I'll try some apps which supports Maildir and notmuch and I think building my ideal solution should be possible from those parts. I like https://github.com/akissinger/dodo screenshots so I think I'll try to install it and test it.
🚲 Aelspire [OP] · May 29 at 10:51:
Misfin will not do 😅 I don’t think mailing list for Git patches support it… And I’m not big fan of message size limit.
I’ve used Evolution and Claws Mail and they are mostly Ok, but this is almost the same thing as Thunderbird. I hope that I’ll be able to patch something better with isync/mblaze/notmuch.
I’ve such list of things to check:
@Aelspire SMTP is an insecure 40 year old protocol that's been surveiled 24/7 for years if not decades by the NSA. I'll pass.
📡 Queen_City_Nerd · May 30 at 13:51:
I reached the point of frustration as well. I considered Better Bird but ended up returning to Claws here. BetterBird seemed like it was a Windows 1st development and I just didn't have time to play around. Claws is a stap backward but it works and will do for now.
👻 mediocregopher [...] · May 30 at 14:20:
+1 for sylpheed
🚲 Aelspire [OP] · May 31 at 14:50:
Ok, so to not let this tread hangs unsolved.
I’ve tested various recommendations, and some of my ideas and decided that Claws Mail works the best for me. Thanks again!
It looked not so great but after spending some time with it I’ve found how configurable it is and I think I can make it look much better. But not only looks matters, so I found that this application is quite powerful!
I really wanted to like aerc but it chokes trying to handle one of my archival folder over IMAP, it works combined with isync/mbsync but this setup adds some complexity while removing some convenience so I think it’s not for me…
One thing which I found interesting that there was many recommendations for Sylpheed while this project is still on GTK+2 while Claws Mail seems like more maintaned and option. Why Sylpheed and not Claws Mail?
👻 mediocregopher [...] · Jun 02 at 12:26:
One thing which I found interesting that there was many recommendations for Sylpheed while this project is still on GTK+2 while Claws Mail seems like more maintaned and option. Why Sylpheed and not Claws Mail?
I can only recommend Sylpheed, I never tried Claws so I wouldn't say one is better than the other.
What I will say is that, especially on Gemini, not everyone is going to agree that "newer" and "more maintained" are necessarily favorable. With GUI toolkits "newer" is basically equivalent to "in fashion, but slower". I prefer fast. "More maintained" means it's going to break randomly and key features are going to get moved around or replaced without necessity. I prefer using software, not fighting against it.
Sylpheed does everything I need it to and doesn't have any bugs that get in my way, so what maintenance does it need?
🚲 Aelspire [OP] · Jun 02 at 16:46:
@mediocregopher I understand this point of view. And I also believe that software should be able to reach finished state. But Claws Mail is advertised as fork of Sylpheed and it’s on GTK+3 while Sylpheed is still on GTK+2, so you know how it looks…
But yes. I think that GTK or Qt is bad choice for software with aspiration of ever being in finished state. Using it is recipe for constant chasing of moving target. You port your app to GTK 79 and GTK 83 is already released… Complete waste of effort, constant rewrite after rewrite while neglecting actual functionality of app, just to chase newest release of chosen toolkit.
Recommended email client — Thunderbird is getting on my nerves recently. It tries to be helpful when I’m composing a plain text email and in result it completely breaks my formatting. Update after update I need to fish for some hidden config to disable a yet-another feature which tries to be smarter than me. And now it started crashing… And crashed twice when I tried to write one email… In plain text… I don’t want email client which fails at managing emails but tries to be everything (IRC...