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Straying out of my wheelhouse into new topics is always a liāl scary, especially controversial topics. This one is a mess because it's both politically contentious & also unsually personal & oversharey for this capsule.
Some of the things often said about IWL (which means āintentional weight lossā, i.e. trying to decrease body fat as opposed to it decreasing from some sorta disease) are probably true:
But I believe this is also true:
And that means making permanent changes to eating. There is no āafterā, there is no āonce I lose weight I can get back to eating such-and-suchā, thereās only āduringā, thereās only āas long asā.
Now, what the best way to actually & specifically do this, Iād better hold off on. Yeah, Iāve read a lot about this stuff, about nutrition. Iāve probably spent more hours nerding out about that than on programming or on the fields Iāve studied formally (those fields, which since I harp about it constantly y'all know are linguistics, aesthetic philosophy, and game design). But Iāve got to stay humbler than my usual cocky self about this topic since Iām a liāl bit of a failure, for three reasons:
1. My weight isnāt great. Or maybe it is and if it is, I was too skinny earlier. I havenāt looked at a scale in a while; Iām down from my highest since I can use plenty of clothes that I couldnāt then, but Iām still not down to my lowest since I canāt use all of my clothes yet.
2. My health is awful. I get sick often and for long stretches. Still havenāt got a good dāx on why that is.
3. Psychologically I was a mess around the topics of food, eating, and dieting for a while, completely ridden by hangups and obsessions, and I donāt want others to fall into the same pits Iāve crawled out of, nor do I wanna fall back into āem myself.
I donāt wanna overstate these caveats (none of these are particularly out-there well, my poor health is, but the degree thatās related to food or eating might be really low) but I donāt wanna neglect them either.
OK, Iāve got to bring this up, too. Society sometimes treats fat people horribly which is completely wack. Donāt hate on someone for something that pretty much all of the time they canāt even help. A lot of the criticism the fat community have against diet culture and against our fatphobic and healthist society is spot on. Yeah, yeah, thereās a sprinkling of some very bad diet advice and outright myths (like āset pointā theory, an extreme overstatement of metabolic homeostasis) in there, but that goes for mainstream culture too. Iām glad this community exist so they can support each other, and I wish I knew about it back in high school where I weighed more than I ever have as an adult.
They also criticize IWL, and they have many good reasons to do so. Iām for IWL, but itās certainly a path to hell paved with good intentions and caveats, which Iāve tried to be mindful of here.
Thereās this one thing that I occasionally hear from them that I wanna add some nuance to, because it sounds pretty messed up: āYou not wanting to look like me is fatphobic.ā
Taken overly literally, that doesnāt make sense at all: I oppose ableism agaist people without arms but I donāt wanna chop off my own arms. I love men but I donāt wanna amputate my tits. So I flinch a liāl at that statement, while acknowledging the applicability of the underlying sentiment when a legit fear of gaining weight turns hysterical or unfounded or leads us to promote diet culture or cash grabs or ableism or healthism or to speak insensitively in front of our fat friends. Going back to the analogy, I can wear safety goggles in a lab without being ableist against blind folks, but I donāt need to wear āem 24/7 or be rude about wearing them or be obnoxious about how I talk about āem.
So I guess Iām saying a whole lotta nothing on this dumb liāl page. I donāt have the answers. Iām leaning towards 1970s nutrition: slow carbs & plenty of veg. One of the reasons I like that school of eating is for the planet, itās an efficient use of resources if the goal is to feed plenty of people. (To the point that I only eat vegan food; the questions and puzzles I've been struggling with above is exactly what * of vegan food and how much etc. Satiety, nutrition density, which foods even * nutritious and so on.)
Vegans often talk about the three pillars. Animal rights, health, and planet. I donāt grok the animal rights issue fully, my health is a mess, but planet? Thatās where Iām onboard; but that argument only goes so far. The health pillar needs to be fully explored. As an analogy, humans need to breathe in oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide. Thereās nothing we can do about that now. If it turns out that we somehow āneedā to eat caribou eyes or whatever, then weād be in a similar situation. Itās pretty important to the other two pillars to find out whether or not we can eat healthy on plants only. Fortunately, nutrition science seems to be leaning yes on that.
Iāve sometimes been slagging Greger (mainly for overemphasizing "chronodiets" in his book before it had been put to the test and it later didn't pan out) but I was surprised today when I looked up something online (a calcium/protein thing) and what came up was his site and I was impressed by his intellectual honesty, basically saying āOK maybe this is one area where plant protein doesnāt have an advantage but it has other advantagesā instead of insisting that it did when it didnāt. Kudos.