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"Why make me jump through hoops upfront"
A few reasons.
1) I want users to be familiar with Titan. I do not want the rather small character limitation of Gemini response URLs to be considered the "default." That will affect how users post. Titan's optional token paramater is also very useful for certain interactions.
2) I do not think it's very hard to figure out, especially if one reads the FAQ. Using Lagrange, you can send a Titan upload simply with control-U.
3) I don't want random visitors to the site to take up usernames someone else may want, or generate useless data in my database. A 3-second registration process ensures that usernames are only held by people who exert a little effort.
4) While I don't advocate needless complexity, I don't think that pursuing user convenience at all costs is a worthwhile goal. There is a reason that the quality of discussion on modern social media is so terrible, and it's because such sites encourage the lowest common denominator of man to join and post.
May 11 · 5 weeks ago
🚲 CitySlicker · May 11 at 13:05:
I am having issues using the forum. I created an account when I return to gemini://maiaforum.net/index.gmi it says
You are not logged in. Please register for full access to this forum.
When I go back to the registration page and try to register again it says
You are already logged in!
💀 eriounious [OP] · May 11 at 14:33:
@CitySlicker
Can you confirm that you are using the client certificate with which you registered on the page which says you aren't logged in? It sounds like you are using your certificate on the registration page, but not on the index.
Hi @eriounious, here's some weirdness on a screen recording:
💀 eriounious [OP] · May 11 at 15:33:
@requiem
Thank you for the recording!
So, the "weirdness" there is caused by your not using the same client certificate on every page you visit. If you take a look at the bar to your left, you can see the text of your certificate change from "Using on this page" to "Used on..."
It is helpful when you create a certificate for the forum to select the option to use it on the entirety of the domain (maiaforum.net). Otherwise you have to manually enable your certificate on every page which requires one.
Though, links to individual posts shouldn't have to require being logged in to see. I'm not sure why I made it that way. I'll change it.
It seem like you are approaching it bass ackwards. Registration is not a goal, but perhaps a necessary formality, but only when absolutely needed. If you are walling off a forum, even the one of your own making... I think I've done all I could here.
Hi,
I am using it on every page, I never asked Lagrange to use the other cert - that one is for a single site. I’ll do some more recordings if you need.
💀 eriounious [OP] · May 12 at 14:10:
@requiem
You aren't: the video you recorded shows this ("used on..." means the cert is NOT being used on the current page). If you created the cert to be used on the entire domain, then it might be a bug with Lagrange. Otherwise, you have to explicitly enable the certificate on every page you visit, even if it's a page on the same domain.
I’ll have a look through it but I find is strange as I never had issues like this before.
🚀 blah_blah_blah · May 13 at 23:44:
@eriounious Tried to register. Setup cert, got the "send a Titan message with your username in it" message. Did so. Then it said I needed a cert. Says I'm not registered.
I'm leaning toward @stack's POV. Your solution is causing a problem. Strongly advise you to streamline the onboarding.
🚀 blah_blah_blah · May 13 at 23:52:
@eriounious Figured it out.
If you insist upon this mode of registration, present the steps more clearly. I had, for example, confused the "token" for the body of the message. And then I failed to select an appropriate certificate. These are not issues I have ever come across when using Titan on BBS (here).
🚀 blah_blah_blah · May 14 at 00:07:
@eriounious Since you use Titan to add replies, and not a "reply" link, you should add a note about this near the bottom of the page
To reply, press ctrl-U to invoke Titan
The layouts are a bit cumbersome. I would look at BBS and Station for guidance on how to format posts. The line needs to go.
Just as Reddit ate up all forums, BBS eats up forums in Geminispace. I'm not sure if a vBBS clone will have legs.
I suggest positioning your project between BBS and Station. I would like to see a Geminispace-native MidnightPub style forum. Basicaly, Titan-powered gemlog capsules that people can reply to. That would provide a unique service, and I would definitely join.
New forum — Hello, I have launched another forum for Gemini/Titan at [gemini link] I would welcome feedback and suggestions from people here, especially in regard to display and formatting. My inspiration is a vbulletin-esque Web forum, so hopefully it is interesting in its difference from this board. It is a work in progress, so there are several features I've not yet added, like PMs and permissions for moderators (separate from normal users or administrators). I hope its basic...