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[2023-10-26T09:16:22Z] <ehawkvu> Guest12: yes, but it's not really documented anywhere
[2023-10-26T09:16:42Z] <ehawkvu> phoebos: we need to make an FAQ w/ the number of ppl who ask about that kind of stuff lol
[2023-10-26T09:16:48Z] <ehawkvu> seems like every other week
[2023-10-26T11:13:18Z] <sewn> ehawkvu: http://kisscommunity.org/FAQ/
[2023-10-26T11:13:25Z] <sewn> just need to make a patch for it
[2023-10-26T13:35:22Z] <sewn> kiss is pretty nice
[2023-10-26T13:35:34Z] <sewn> sure as hell won't know why udhcpc isn't used by default
[2023-10-26T14:07:11Z] <synimas> Anyone had luck building broadcom-wl into the kernel
[2023-10-26T14:07:18Z] <synimas> I cant figure it out for the life of me
[2023-10-26T14:09:45Z] <synimas> Cant even build it with musl
[2023-10-26T14:11:05Z] <synimas> But thats besides the point
[2023-10-26T15:02:13Z] <sewn> holy shit you don't need LLVM with radeon drivers
[2023-10-26T15:02:25Z] <sewn> let's gooooo thank you Qiang Yu
[2023-10-26T18:43:04Z] <asimovsh> hey guys
[2023-10-26T18:43:22Z] <asimovsh> I dont remember but someone here is from russia?
[2023-10-26T18:43:28Z] <asimovsh> illiliti: is you?
[2023-10-26T18:44:08Z] <asimovsh> i have a question that is related to your country music culture
[2023-10-26T20:11:39Z] <illiliti> ohh
[2023-10-26T20:12:00Z] <illiliti> alright go ahead ask, but keep in mind that i'm not expert in music in general
[2023-10-26T20:30:03Z] <asimovsh> I know some music duo called мы?
[2023-10-26T20:36:54Z] <illiliti> never heard of it
[2023-10-26T20:47:22Z] <illiliti> just listened to some of their songs. definitely not my music. no wonder I have no clue who they are
[2023-10-26T20:47:38Z] <sad_plan> hi
[2023-10-26T20:48:11Z] <illiliti> hi
[2023-10-26T20:48:22Z] <sad_plan> sewn: udhcp isnt used because its finnicky from what I know. sabotage has a script for it, if you wanna use it. or does alpine use it?
[2023-10-26T21:22:25Z] <asimovsh> illiliti: yeah they kinda underground i just don't know why some albums have been deleted
[2023-10-26T21:22:58Z] <asimovsh> Anyway is kiss accepting people for working in the community repo?
[2023-10-26T21:23:20Z] <asimovsh> I've seem some delay in the mergins
[2023-10-26T21:23:30Z] <asimovsh> And issues that are not closed
[2023-10-26T21:28:42Z] <sad_plan> if you have a package, or improvements on existing packages in community, just make an issue, or a pr
[2023-10-26T21:29:20Z] <sad_plan> packages are initially 'owned' by its maintainers, so if you arent the maintainer, an issue, or a mentioning it here is probably fine
[2023-10-26T21:30:04Z] <sad_plan> although people probably wont impose you if you make a pr with improvements or fixes
[2023-10-26T21:58:58Z] <asimovsh> I mean
[2023-10-26T21:59:06Z] <asimovsh> I have packages
[2023-10-26T21:59:24Z] <asimovsh> But the owners of the repo are too busy
[2023-10-26T21:59:29Z] <asimovsh> Is just update a package
[2023-10-26T21:59:34Z] <asimovsh> A simple commit
[2023-10-26T22:00:21Z] <asimovsh> Waiting days for a commit like that get merged is too slow
[2023-10-26T22:05:14Z] <phoebos> asimovsh: what's your username on codeberg?
[2023-10-26T22:14:41Z] <phoebos> ehawkvu: I don't have the packages 'f, 'subp, 'tsort
[2023-10-26T22:19:56Z] <sad_plan> asimovsh: I mostly dont wait more than a day or 2 tops. and I dont find that to be too unreasonable.
[2023-10-26T22:21:24Z] <phoebos> and yes, please contribute to https://kisscommunity.org/FAQ/
[2023-10-26T22:24:35Z] <sad_plan> is there anything in particular that youd like to see in the faq?
[2023-10-26T22:25:08Z] <sad_plan> with the exception of the creating a live usb with kiss
[2023-10-26T22:25:16Z] <phoebos> more Qs
[2023-10-26T22:26:15Z] <phoebos> rewordings of confusing sentences
[2023-10-26T22:27:23Z] <sad_plan> rewording, as in basically nitpicking the whole site, yes?
[2023-10-26T22:27:45Z] <sad_plan> oh, I found one just now. in the Xorg section, I think we should probably link to kiss-xorg.
[2023-10-26T22:32:02Z] <sad_plan> ive also been asked several times now about mouse/keyboard not working on tinyx, aswell as no super key. is that something that might be interested in having on the site? I know its X related, and not wayland, hence why im asking instead of creating a pr first.
[2023-10-26T22:37:55Z] <phoebos> yes, good point. the whole thing is still xorg-first, with only Dilyn's wayland articles
[2023-10-26T22:38:15Z] <phoebos> any PRs are welcome - single word changes, new articles
[2023-10-26T22:39:08Z] <phoebos> not following official KISS (ie not wayland) isn't a problem, it's a community resource
[2023-10-26T22:44:25Z] <sad_plan> sounds good. Ill look into it. and with smu, its just basic markdown, right?
[2023-10-26T22:45:00Z] <sad_plan> also, prs goes to codeberg here aswell, I guess? theres no difference in commits on github/codeberg. which is why im asking
[2023-10-26T22:45:44Z] <phoebos> pretty much. there's a cheatsheet at https://kisscommunity.bvnf.space/website/smu/
[2023-10-26T22:45:56Z] <sad_plan> nice
[2023-10-26T22:46:06Z] <phoebos> codeberg is fine, so is just sending a patch
[2023-10-26T22:46:15Z] <sad_plan> ait
[2023-10-26T22:46:21Z] <phoebos> they have to be merged manually; codeberg and github are just mirrors
[2023-10-26T22:47:42Z] <sad_plan> ah, because youre actually hosting it yourself on your website, correct?
[2023-10-26T22:49:19Z] <phoebos> correct
[2023-10-26T23:12:27Z] <ehawkvu> Since it's not a melpa package, you have to install f & tsort through melpa
[2023-10-26T23:13:51Z] <ehawkvu> (progn (require 'package) (setq package-archives '(("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/"))))
[2023-10-26T23:14:25Z] <ehawkvu> (progn (use-package f) (use-package tsort))
[2023-10-26T23:14:59Z] <ehawkvu> https://github.com/ehawkvu/dots/blob/master/emacs/.config/emacs/init.el#L15
[2023-10-26T23:15:25Z] <ehawkvu> phoebos: see above ^
[2023-10-26T23:19:01Z] <ehawkvu> on the subject of faqs, it would be interesting to have per-repo wikis, that then get amalgamated to the main site (kisscommunity.org)
[2023-10-26T23:19:10Z] <ehawkvu> like how the old kiss-find website used to work
[2023-10-26T23:19:31Z] <ehawkvu> maybe it'd be as simple as including a wiki/ dir? thoughts anyone?
[2023-10-26T23:21:17Z] <ehawkvu> sad_plan: regarding live isos ~ https://github.com/kiss-community/kiss-live
[2023-10-26T23:23:11Z] <ehawkvu> sad_plan: the build process could be reduced to like 5 minutes if you can get https://github.com/ehawkvu/kiss-personal/tree/master/testing/arch-linux-lts to work
[2023-10-26T23:23:21Z] <sad_plan> oh, yeah I forgot about that one. we should link to that in faq.
[2023-10-26T23:24:29Z] <sad_plan> yeah, using a prebuilt one would be awesome
[2023-10-26T23:25:13Z] <ehawkvu> While I don't think configuring a kernel is all that difficult, that particular part of the process keeps me from running kiss on all of my boxes
[2023-10-26T23:25:13Z] <sad_plan> not having to use an alternate iso to build kiss would actually be so much better. especially for myself, as I dont need to update it all the damn time as I have to with my artix iso
[2023-10-26T23:26:20Z] <sad_plan> I get that.. kiss can be a hassle at times
[2023-10-26T23:29:48Z] <sad_plan> phoebos: I notied all the old xorg articles are still in txt, do we just stick with that or start using md instead? seeing as the rest of the site is md, I dont really see the any reason to keep sticking with txt if most of the website is md
[2023-10-26T23:30:09Z] <sad_plan> I was going to write an article on tinyx, which is why im asking
[2023-10-26T23:35:54Z] <asimovsh> phoebos: Rohan