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[2023-03-09T01:02:44Z] <sad_plan> agreed illiliti [2023-03-09T01:40:32Z] <sprig> im getting a kernel panic unknown-block(0, 0), are there any kernel modules i have to enable to run in vmware? [2023-03-09T02:02:02Z] <rohan> hey guys [2023-03-09T02:02:18Z] <rohan> the default build flags in codeberg repo [2023-03-09T02:03:07Z] <rohan> is just for install or can i use in all packages? [2023-03-09T02:04:03Z] <drez> midfavila: here is gnomeless slackware http://superboxon.com/ [2023-03-09T02:04:15Z] <sad_plan> do you mean the generic compiler flags? rohan [2023-03-09T02:04:23Z] <rohan> yeah [2023-03-09T02:04:24Z] <drez> well it has gtk2 and a billion other things but at least it is more usable [2023-03-09T02:04:33Z] <rohan> what is recommended in repo release [2023-03-09T02:04:56Z] <sad_plan> if someone else is going to your built package, you probably wanna use the generic flags, yes [2023-03-09T02:05:09Z] <sad_plan> else, others might not be able to run the binaries [2023-03-09T02:06:02Z] <drez> whoops its broken [2023-03-09T02:06:03Z] <drez> >I always prefer Arch or Slackware instead of Debian based. Superboxon has problems, and pretty broken, because not finished work I think. Using GRUB in gfxmode (not console TUI) in an distro install, itâs very very bad idea (like in PCLinuxOS). Some GPUs, hardware, coreboot⊠canât see GRUBâs menu, because itâs boot in gfxmode as default. The most useable distro from the list is AntiX. [2023-03-09T02:06:19Z] <rohan> okay [2023-03-09T02:06:21Z] <rohan> now [2023-03-09T02:06:32Z] <rohan> i questioned early [2023-03-09T02:06:50Z] <rohan> but have guys using meson setup in build files? [2023-03-09T02:06:57Z] <rohan> or just meson [2023-03-09T02:07:25Z] <sad_plan> meson setup, is used in atleast xorg repo, due to the shift towards to muon instead of meson [2023-03-09T02:07:42Z] <sad_plan> meson setup is initially getting deprecated iirc. but muon uses muon setup [2023-03-09T02:08:24Z] <sad_plan> meson setup was just used as a preperation towards to muon shift. but its still a work in progress so far anyway [2023-03-09T02:08:41Z] <rohan> understand [2023-03-09T02:08:58Z] <rohan> and now [2023-03-09T02:09:05Z] <sad_plan> not sure if illiliti made any progress on this or not? I know theres still couple pacakges having some issues [2023-03-09T02:09:21Z] <rohan> i get a error when update kiss repo [2023-03-09T02:09:21Z] <sad_plan> atleast last time I looked at the PR [2023-03-09T02:09:27Z] <sad_plan> what error? [2023-03-09T02:09:56Z] <rohan> somethin about not having ssh-keygen [2023-03-09T02:10:13Z] <rohan> commit has bad PGP signatur [2023-03-09T02:10:26Z] <rohan> GPG* [2023-03-09T02:10:26Z] <sad_plan> thats from openssh. have you enabled signature verification in the repo? [2023-03-09T02:10:39Z] <rohan> yes i enabled [2023-03-09T02:10:53Z] <sad_plan> if yes, you can disable it. should fix the issue [2023-03-09T02:11:07Z] <rohan> thank you [2023-03-09T02:11:20Z] <rohan> man [2023-03-09T02:11:29Z] <rohan> kiss still have much discussions [2023-03-09T02:11:44Z] <rohan> maybe is not a time to discuss one by one? [2023-03-09T02:11:50Z] <rohan> like go back to libressl [2023-03-09T02:12:20Z] <sad_plan> theres an issue about that. but it hasnt really been any more about it. [2023-03-09T02:12:39Z] <sad_plan> I use libressl, aswell as couple others here [2023-03-09T02:13:50Z] <sad_plan> you can use libressl yourself if you like. theres not too many packages that requires any changes initially [2023-03-09T02:15:47Z] <rohan> yeah but maybe be good to pull in repo [2023-03-09T02:16:20Z] <sad_plan> yeah, use personal repo for that [2023-03-09T02:36:47Z] <rohan> the issue with new line in foot still not solved? [2023-03-09T02:43:17Z] <sad_plan> not to my knowledge. have you checked foot git repo? [2023-03-09T02:43:54Z] <rohan> no [2023-03-09T02:44:02Z] <rohan> bit i think this is a error in kiss [2023-03-09T02:44:12Z] <rohan> i not have this error before [2023-03-09T02:44:22Z] <rohan> or in gentoo when i used [2023-03-09T02:44:40Z] <rohan> and is the same version i used when i left kiss months ago [2023-03-09T02:46:02Z] <sad_plan> nothing about your config that would cause it? can you replicate it with same config on say gentoo? [2023-03-09T02:46:25Z] <rohan> yeah [2023-03-09T02:46:36Z] <rohan> i used the default config for foot [2023-03-09T02:46:39Z] <rohan> and nothing [2023-03-09T02:49:05Z] <niceguy5000[m]> this is what I drive daily https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/perthchat.org/zHtWJbnuTkxjMKaCFlqmyQIM [2023-03-09T02:51:15Z] <davidgarland> lol [2023-03-09T02:53:32Z] <midfavila> based [2023-03-09T02:53:47Z] <midfavila> i would use something like that [2023-03-09T02:58:08Z] <sad_plan> rohan: then im not sure. you can create an issue about it though [2023-03-09T02:58:29Z] <sad_plan> niceguy5000[m]: what even is thath thing? look dope though [2023-03-09T02:59:36Z] <sad_plan> wait, is it an old mac machine? [2023-03-09T02:59:49Z] <sad_plan> I noticed the old school apple icon left of the screen [2023-03-09T03:04:40Z] <midfavila> might be a fakeout [2023-03-09T03:04:41Z] * midfavila shrugs [2023-03-09T03:04:46Z] <midfavila> i don't know of any apple luggables [2023-03-09T03:05:16Z] <midfavila> and apple would never use translucent plastic [2023-03-09T03:15:16Z] <sad_plan> probably a fakeout yeah. not a apple historic, but from what Ive seen so far, I would agree. could just be a sticker aswell [2023-03-09T03:18:36Z] <davidgarland> "apple would never use translucent plastic" what about the g3 and the clamshell [2023-03-09T03:27:59Z] <sad_plan> i forgot about the g3. its only partially translucent though, and only on the sides afaik [2023-03-09T03:29:14Z] <sad_plan> the desktopthat is [2023-03-09T03:30:40Z] <sad_plan> the clamshell laptop is also only partially translucent though. similarly to the desktop [2023-03-09T03:35:13Z] <davidgarland> "partially translucent" feels a bit redundant, if it wasn't partial it'd be called transparent xp [2023-03-09T03:35:15Z] <davidgarland> but fair [2023-03-09T03:35:22Z] <davidgarland> definitely not like in the pic they linked [2023-03-09T03:36:11Z] <sad_plan> yeah, maybe a poor choice of words on my end :p [2023-03-09T03:39:45Z] <testuser[m]123> Hi [2023-03-09T03:41:00Z] <davidgarland> o/ [2023-03-09T03:55:26Z] <sad_plan> hi [2023-03-09T04:53:48Z] <sewn> Hi [2023-03-09T07:34:09Z] * sewn uploaded an image: (33KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/envs.net/9d961e342daef163fe7d016b20a2b8b952ba2f7e/1677825857374582.jpg > [2023-03-09T07:34:10Z] <sewn> sad_plan: [2023-03-09T08:19:20Z] <aelspire> Hi [2023-03-09T08:19:57Z] <aelspire> I've managed to replace thunderbird with fdm+msmtp+mblaze \O/ [2023-03-09T13:00:35Z] <sewn> fr ong [2023-03-09T14:02:42Z] <sad_plan> hi [2023-03-09T14:03:11Z] <sad_plan> sewn: hah, yeah thaths a bummer when the cookie dont fit in the milk glass :( [2023-03-09T14:51:58Z] <omanom> https://www.cultofmac.com/161046/you-can-buy-this-funky-looking-apple-prototype-emate-300-for-only-8500/ [2023-03-09T14:52:38Z] <omanom> specifically: https://www.cultofmac.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/emate.jpg [2023-03-09T14:54:18Z] <sad_plan> > not for resale [2023-03-09T14:54:24Z] <sad_plan> > its listed on ebay [2023-03-09T14:54:30Z] <sad_plan> lol [2023-03-09T14:54:40Z] <omanom> https://images.macrumors.com/t/ankjU1DPJpBE5VWmANer2N_Od84=/800x0/article-new/2019/09/macintoshportableprototype1-800x600.jpg?lossy [2023-03-09T14:55:03Z] <sad_plan> yeah, thats the one [2023-03-09T14:55:19Z] <sad_plan> also a prototype [2023-03-09T14:55:21Z] <sad_plan> it seems [2023-03-09T14:55:56Z] <omanom> yeah, its interesting that they didn't offer the clear case option to anyone once it went into production [2023-03-09T14:56:04Z] <sad_plan> cool looking device though. probably heavy as shit though :p [2023-03-09T14:56:32Z] <sad_plan> probably didnt like the design all that much. didnt fit their aestetic. I dunno [2023-03-09T14:56:36Z] <sad_plan> cool none the lesss [2023-03-09T14:57:09Z] <omanom> 16lbs [2023-03-09T14:59:06Z] <omanom> >The lead-acid battery on the non-backlit Portable offered up to ten hours of usage time, and the Portable draws the same amount of power when turned off, and when in sleep mode. [2023-03-09T14:59:19Z] <omanom> lol so you had to keep it plugged in perpetually [2023-03-09T15:00:08Z] <sad_plan> "portable" they said. lol [2023-03-09T15:00:30Z] <sad_plan> hope you brought a looong extension cord for you meeting though [2023-03-09T15:00:49Z] <sad_plan> else youre gonna go out of power mid presentation on that important meeting of yours [2023-03-09T15:00:49Z] <sad_plan> lol [2023-03-09T15:01:36Z] <omanom> >As with automotive batteries, the sealed lead-acid cells used in the Portable failed if they were fully discharged. [2023-03-09T15:02:07Z] <sad_plan> even better. forgot to charge your laptop? now its dead. time to buy a new one [2023-03-09T15:02:46Z] <sad_plan> price? a year worth of salary or something [2023-03-09T15:03:51Z] <sad_plan> I wonder how on earth apple made such a useless device though. I mean, I dont like apple to begin with, but their hardware is rather decent though [2023-03-09T15:04:18Z] <schillingklaus> everything from apple is useless [2023-03-09T15:05:39Z] <sad_plan> putting linux on older laptops has been rather popular it seems though. I know their older laptops and so has had their... flaws to put it mildly [2023-03-09T15:06:01Z] <omanom> nah, not everything from apple is useless. i used my ipod touch as an external storage hdd and it worked great. even ran counter-strike off of it. [2023-03-09T15:06:28Z] <sad_plan> the performance anyway on their phones, and the m1 mac and similar is initially quite good though. its just the software that I dont initially like, aswell as a couple other things [2023-03-09T15:06:32Z] <sad_plan> ^ exacly [2023-03-09T15:10:52Z] <omanom> i had a macbook pro for years that worked great, too. i put FreeBSD on it once they wouldn't upgrade its OS and got another couple good years [2023-03-09T15:12:23Z] <sad_plan> cool. that seems to have been a somewhat popular choice. at least with linux. not that familiar with bsd [2023-03-09T15:13:00Z] <schillingklaus> osx contains some freebsd code [2023-03-09T15:14:08Z] <omanom> https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Darwin/Conceptual/KernelProgramming/BSD/BSD.html [2023-03-09T15:14:17Z] <sad_plan> ps4 OS is also based on freebsd actually [2023-03-09T15:14:35Z] <midfavila> just don't start saying that MacOS is a BSD... [2023-03-09T15:14:51Z] <rio6> macbsd [2023-03-09T15:14:53Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: no worries, I wont anyway :p [2023-03-09T15:15:04Z] <midfavila> do you want to fucking throw hands rio6? [2023-03-09T15:15:10Z] <midfavila> meet me behind the mcdonalds after class >:c [2023-03-09T15:15:14Z] <sad_plan> get wrecked [2023-03-09T15:15:22Z] <midfavila> i will *literally* pick you up [2023-03-09T15:15:28Z] <rio6> đ [2023-03-09T15:15:43Z] <midfavila> and then give you a big hug and place you back on the ground because we don't do violence in #kisslinux [2023-03-09T15:15:50Z] <sewn> midfavila: what are you gonna do next mid [2023-03-09T15:16:05Z] <midfavila> probably scream and then die, like i do every day [2023-03-09T15:16:10Z] <sewn> you've already picked them up thats a hug already [2023-03-09T15:16:16Z] <sewn> should have given them a kiss smh my head [2023-03-09T15:16:26Z] <midfavila> small-minded C H I L D [2023-03-09T15:16:32Z] <midfavila> there are many ways i can pick someone up [2023-03-09T15:16:37Z] <sad_plan> I would put my money on mid going on a rant on why his wrong [2023-03-09T15:16:50Z] <midfavila> this is a wise man [2023-03-09T15:17:00Z] <sad_plan> :D [2023-03-09T15:17:01Z] <sewn> midfavila: ok what you're gonna pick them up by their ears then? [2023-03-09T15:17:33Z] <midfavila> idk last time i was screwing around with a friend i just grabbed them by their legs [2023-03-09T15:17:35Z] <midfavila> that worked [2023-03-09T15:17:42Z] * midfavila shrugs [2023-03-09T15:17:44Z] <sewn> you have to be tall as shit to do that [2023-03-09T15:17:51Z] <midfavila> lmao no [2023-03-09T15:18:12Z] <sad_plan> just grap their legs, and pull hard. they'll fall [2023-03-09T15:18:37Z] <omanom> mid is short, he just ran at them and bearhugged their legs [2023-03-09T15:18:51Z] <sewn> FR [2023-03-09T15:18:52Z] <midfavila> i'm not *short*, i'm 5'10" [2023-03-09T15:18:54Z] <sad_plan> are you implying mid is a midget? [2023-03-09T15:19:02Z] <midfavila> i'm slightly taller than average gtfo nerd [2023-03-09T15:19:08Z] <sewn> .................................................................................... [2023-03-09T15:19:29Z] <omanom> he just has really tall friends [2023-03-09T15:20:07Z] <midfavila> it's like you guys have never thought of just ducking over [2023-03-09T15:20:08Z] <midfavila> wild [2023-03-09T15:20:27Z] <omanom> fireman's carry :) [2023-03-09T16:01:20Z] <shokara> "< midfavila> just don't start saying that MacOS is a BSD..." ackshualtyula, darwin is a bsd [2023-03-09T16:01:44Z] * midfavila strangles shokara in Minetest [2023-03-09T16:01:58Z] * shokara commits /kill faster [2023-03-09T16:36:19Z] <midfavila> https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=PEeTK0Fx-Q4 [2023-03-09T16:36:25Z] <midfavila> https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=j4Ph02gzqmY [2023-03-09T18:20:18Z] <Torr> Ahoy [2023-03-09T18:20:36Z] <sewn> Hello torr [2023-03-09T18:20:45Z] <sad_plan> hi Torr [2023-03-09T18:22:51Z] * Torr salutes sewn and sad_plan [2023-03-09T18:47:33Z] <midfavila> https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=72Yqd6Iq-H8 [2023-03-09T21:09:59Z] <shokara> huh, I wonder how hard it'd be to create a openjdk package using gcj as the bootstrap jdk [2023-03-09T21:10:18Z] <shokara> iirc, kiss-java didn't use gcj and worked its way up from very early java versions [2023-03-09T21:53:09Z] <Torr> midfavila: Nice [2023-03-09T21:53:28Z] <Torr> shokara_: U could have a look at OpenBSD's Jdk build. [2023-03-09T21:54:07Z] <Torr> Their builds frequently have some cool sauce. [2023-03-09T21:54:44Z] <Torr> midfavila: btw, how's ur foot buddy? [2023-03-09T22:05:20Z] <midfavila> about on par with the usual [2023-03-09T22:07:28Z] <Torr> Sounds painful [2023-03-09T22:07:51Z] <Torr> What about the surgery, is it scheduled? [2023-03-09T22:09:52Z] <midfavila> later this month, yeah [2023-03-09T22:10:08Z] <midfavila> and then i get to sit around and do fuck all for 2-6 weeks [2023-03-09T22:10:29Z] <midfavila> fortunately NEETcare:tm: will pay for it [2023-03-09T22:10:36Z] <midfavila> god knows i can't afford it on my own lmao [2023-03-09T22:14:09Z] <Torr> Yeah [2023-03-09T22:14:25Z] <Torr> U could use this distro to flirt with the nurses. [2023-03-09T22:14:41Z] <Torr> "Hello, what do you do?" [2023-03-09T22:14:51Z] <Torr> "I KISS baby, I KISS all night long" [2023-03-09T22:15:02Z] <Torr> xD [2023-03-09T22:16:21Z] <midfavila> i don't think i want to piss the people with needles and scalpels off [2023-03-09T22:40:21Z] <Ellowee[m]> Is there a *fully free* way to build java?