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[2022-08-01T07:13:18Z] <testuser[m]12> Hi
[2022-08-01T09:13:45Z] <Ogromny> Hi
[2022-08-01T12:19:33Z] <Ogromny> Hum how do you update git package ?
[2022-08-01T12:20:12Z] <Ogromny> I mean, I have neovim (git) installed but when I do `kiss u` it seems that everything is up to date 
[2022-08-01T12:21:20Z] <Ogromny> I can do `kiss b $(kiss l | grep "git-1" | cut -d" " -f1 | xargs)` but I will rebuild everything even if there's no update
[2022-08-01T12:21:55Z] <Ogromny> s/I will/it'll/
[2022-08-01T12:22:12Z] <testuser[m]12> That's the only way
[2022-08-01T12:22:15Z] <testuser[m]12> manually updated
[2022-08-01T12:25:57Z] <Ogromny> That's sad 
[2022-08-01T13:24:07Z] <Guest91> noocsharp: https://voidlinux.org/packages/?arch=x86_64&q=wayclip
[2022-08-01T19:25:49Z] <wael[m]> can variables exported by a kiss hook be read by KISS to be forwarded to the build?
[2022-08-01T19:28:46Z] <ioraff> no, unfortunately, since the hook is executed rather than sourced. you'll need to have the hook insert the exports into the build file
[2022-08-01T19:30:50Z] <wael[m]> wouldn't that overwrite the existing build file?
[2022-08-01T19:30:51Z] <wael[m]> or do you mean to have to insert the variables manually into the build files?
[2022-08-01T19:32:24Z] <ioraff> yes. I make a backup of the original to /tmp and then restore it upon build failure or completion
[2022-08-01T19:32:25Z] <ioraff> https://git.owenrafferty.com/bin/file/kh.html
[2022-08-01T19:33:14Z] <wael[m]> interesting
[2022-08-01T19:33:35Z] <wael[m]> i only need to set 3 variables, so i guess i can have a pre-install file in the package directory to set that variable?
[2022-08-01T19:34:08Z] <wael[m]> or is that just executed and not sourced too?
[2022-08-01T19:34:56Z] <ioraff> the hooks in the package directory that are executed are post-install and pre-remove
[2022-08-01T19:35:41Z] <ioraff> do the variables have anything to do with the build?
[2022-08-01T19:35:56Z] <wael[m]> they set the compiler 
[2022-08-01T19:37:19Z] <ioraff> as far as I know, you can either run CC=... kiss ... or insert CC=... in the build file.
[2022-08-01T19:37:52Z] <wael[m]> thing is, its for many packages, so im simply trying to save like 10 kilobytes lol.
[2022-08-01T19:39:28Z] <ioraff> as per the hook I sent, you can add each package in a case statement
[2022-08-01T19:40:54Z] <wael[m]> does your hook directly modify the build file and save the old to a temporary file, and once the build is complete it brings the old build file back?
[2022-08-01T19:41:00Z] <ioraff> yes
[2022-08-01T19:41:19Z] <wael[m]> oh wow your hook displays the time
[2022-08-01T19:41:27Z] <wael[m]> i didnt know hooks could be that useful
[2022-08-01T19:42:30Z] <wael[m]> i will try to do something similar, thanks!!
[2022-08-01T19:45:09Z] <wael[m]> ~~also by similar i meant shamelessly copying~~
[2022-08-01T19:57:32Z] <ioraff> as did I, from dylan. reminds me to add a license
[2022-08-01T20:01:31Z] <wael[m]> is it still a good idea to instead add the variables directly to the build files or to do what the hook does
[2022-08-01T20:03:01Z] <ioraff> that's up to you. it's just my personal preference that environmental variables be modified via a hook, since they only need to be prepended to the build file, while all other changes warrant a fork of the package
[2022-08-01T20:06:27Z] <wael[m]> you know what? i guess it wouldnt hurt to add a few variables to each build file
[2022-08-01T20:07:01Z] <wael[m]> unless...?
[2022-08-01T20:07:14Z] <wael[m]> does sed support inplace ?
[2022-08-01T20:08:36Z] <ioraff> busybox sed does, yes. as does ed, which I use. the backup is only for "safety"
[2022-08-01T20:09:04Z] <wael[m]> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[2022-08-01T20:09:32Z] <wael[m]> okay fuck it
[2022-08-01T20:44:27Z] <wael[m]> is there a way to prevent kiss from cleaning? i want to make simple post-compilation changes to the build file, and i have to constantly recompile for whatever change i did.
[2022-08-01T20:57:03Z] <soliwilos> You want to keep the temporary build dir? I think setting KISS_DEBUG=1 does that.
[2022-08-01T21:01:17Z] <wael[m]> not exactly, i want to make use of the existing build dir for tiny changes. however the build directories are by processor, i think a better solution is to use ccache to speed it up some more for recompilation.
[2022-08-01T21:01:50Z] <wael[m]> how can ccache be used with KISS otherwise?
[2022-08-01T21:02:11Z] <wael[m]> nvm found the wiki page for it.
[2022-08-01T21:51:17Z] <phoebos> wael[m]: i like to put a `sh >/dev/tty` somewhere into the build script
[2022-08-01T21:52:19Z] <phoebos> i also tweaked kiss so that you can run `kiss continue` from within /tmp/$/pkg/pkg/ to finish the build after installing