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2020-11-26T00:11:26 #kisslinux <acheam> i've kind of given up on invidious. Right now, I compromise by searching for the video I want on youtube.com and playing the video in mpv. I just couldn't find a reliable instance, and hosting it myself kind of defeats a lot of the point because google knows my VPN IP
2020-11-26T00:11:47 #kisslinux <acheam> i'd love to come back at some point though
2020-11-26T02:36:42 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Is there any easy way to see which packages got updated recently? Besides like looking through the git log
2020-11-26T03:05:58 #kisslinux <systemE> Would it be cool to have an iso with a minimal kernel to use kiss on kvm vps providers (like vultr) that allow iso uploads?
2020-11-26T03:06:14 #kisslinux <systemE> Is anyone using kiss as a server?
2020-11-26T03:06:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> as great as KISS is, I don't think I'd be comfortable using it on a server
2020-11-26T03:06:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> no offense to dylan :p
2020-11-26T03:07:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> but you could probably repurpose the live CD of KISS for VPS use
2020-11-26T03:07:10 #kisslinux <systemE> I'd be more comfortable in many ways, than using e.g. ubuntu 18.04 or some huge distro
2020-11-26T03:07:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> Oh, for sure
2020-11-26T03:07:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> But I feel like there might be some stability issues
2020-11-26T03:07:35 #kisslinux <midfavila> I 'unno
2020-11-26T03:07:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> I normally use Slackware when I need a server
2020-11-26T03:07:54 #kisslinux <systemE> a lot of providers provide snapshots for rollbacks
2020-11-26T03:08:05 #kisslinux <systemE> i think vultr again does
2020-11-26T03:08:10 #kisslinux <systemE> could be a solid setup I think
2020-11-26T03:08:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> Well, if you do try it, post results
2020-11-26T03:09:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> by the way, bison is a drop-in for yacc, right?
2020-11-26T03:11:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> okay yeah, looks like it is. cool
2020-11-26T03:11:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> been tinkering with Xaw today
2020-11-26T04:13:58 #kisslinux <illiliti> midfavila: you can pass arguments to commands
2020-11-26T04:14:01 #kisslinux <illiliti> sls -- ls -la /root
2020-11-26T04:14:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> Oh, no way
2020-11-26T04:14:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> Thanks for the tip
2020-11-26T04:16:15 #kisslinux <testuser[m]> Nice
2020-11-26T04:20:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> oh, as an aside
2020-11-26T04:20:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> http://0x0.st/iRxy.png
2020-11-26T04:20:28 #kisslinux <midfavila> never let anyone try to tell you Xaw can't look nice
2020-11-26T04:20:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> if they do they're a filthy liar
2020-11-26T04:29:09 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Anyone else having issues with a flatpak after updating? Here's the error messages: http://0x0.st/iRxY.txt
2020-11-26T04:29:22 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Rebuilding flatpak fails as well: https://0x0.st/iRx3.txt
2020-11-26T04:30:54 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Ah! if anyone else runs into that error just rebuild libpsl
2020-11-26T04:31:10 #kisslinux <himmalerin> (and install the new version obv)
2020-11-26T04:37:10 #kisslinux <micr0> himmalerin reading scrollback - you might wanna look at kiss-recent for inspiration. its a utility i wrote in https://github.com/jedahan/kiss-repo
2020-11-26T04:37:43 #kisslinux <micr0> it just kinda greps through git logs to find new packages. might be useful for 'updated' packages too.
2020-11-26T04:38:01 #kisslinux <micr0> it can definitely be improved
2020-11-26T04:38:46 #kisslinux <himmalerin> I'll take a look, thanks for the suggestion!
2020-11-26T04:42:12 #kisslinux <micr0> your idea is probably easier to do than what kiss-recent is trying to do
2020-11-26T05:05:57 #kisslinux <micr0> himmalerin actually im making a new utility for what you want
2020-11-26T05:06:08 #kisslinux <micr0> since learning git can handle most of the filtering
2020-11-26T05:23:50 #kisslinux <testuser[m]> midfavila BTW you can set an alias for sls="sls --", makes it easier
2020-11-26T05:25:43 #kisslinux * midfavila nods
2020-11-26T05:25:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> by the way
2020-11-26T05:25:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> do you guys know of any Xaw applications?
2020-11-26T05:26:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> I was trying to get aXe running earlier but... that wasn't very fruitful
2020-11-26T06:12:56 #kisslinux <micr0> okay himmalerin i wrote a new utility: kiss-updates
2020-11-26T06:14:06 #kisslinux <micr0> kiss-updates will list any packages who have a new or modified version in the specified time range (default "1 week ago")
2020-11-26T06:14:25 #kisslinux <micr0> its a lot simpler than kiss-recent, and more correct
2020-11-26T06:23:21 #kisslinux <micr0> himmalerin let me know if you'd rather have it print out in a more useful output other than package names
2020-11-26T06:23:37 #kisslinux <micr0> I have a version that prints out the commit messages instead of the names
2020-11-26T06:24:01 #kisslinux <micr0> but like, sometimes there are multiple commits to a package so not sure if thats relevant
2020-11-26T06:34:33 #kisslinux <micr0> alright i made one last utility
2020-11-26T06:35:55 #kisslinux <micr0> kiss-updates and kiss-log. kiss log shows the git commit logs for any packages in your KISS_PATH whose version file changed in the last week. kiss-updates just shows the package names. both accept an optional time range in the git log --since format, defaulting to "1 week ago"
2020-11-26T06:36:47 #kisslinux <micr0> i am open to removing the zsh dependency if the resulting scripts are more understandable that way
2020-11-26T06:37:23 #kisslinux <micr0> (The only features I am using are ${1:-1 week ago} and ${(s.:.)KISS_PATH})
2020-11-26T06:38:36 #kisslinux <micr0> anytway time for bed
2020-11-26T15:25:40 #kisslinux <testuser[m]> Hi
2020-11-26T15:27:45 #kisslinux <testuser[m]> I set up this repository today: https://github.com/git-bruh/kiss-bins
2020-11-26T15:27:58 #kisslinux <testuser[m]> Binaries for rust, ff and llvm
2020-11-26T15:28:54 #kisslinux <testuser[m]> (not official)
2020-11-26T16:43:25 #kisslinux <claudia02> testuser[m]: whoop whoop nice!
2020-11-26T18:13:30 #kisslinux <nerditup> is there an option to keep the source extracted for a given package installation?
2020-11-26T18:14:25 #kisslinux <testuser[m]> `KISS_DEBUG=1`, it'll keep the extracted source intact
2020-11-26T18:14:49 #kisslinux <testuser[m]> Not sure if that's what you mean
2020-11-26T18:15:56 #kisslinux <nerditup> I'm looking to keep the .cache/kiss/proc/####/build directory
2020-11-26T18:16:09 #kisslinux <testuser[m]> Yeah that variable should do it
2020-11-26T18:16:16 #kisslinux <nerditup> or if there's an option to separate build and source in the cache, I want the source directory in tact
2020-11-26T18:16:19 #kisslinux <nerditup> okay
2020-11-26T18:17:13 #kisslinux <nerditup> for the curious, I'm making myself a linux kernel package and want to keep the source somewhere so when I install modules, the symlinks reference valid directories
2020-11-26T18:17:20 #kisslinux <nerditup> not sure if anyone has any suggestions on that
2020-11-26T18:18:08 #kisslinux <nerditup> the build and source symlinks are the ones I'm referring to
2020-11-26T18:19:29 #kisslinux <nerditup> I think I might just use the hooks and put it somewhere predictable on my system
2020-11-26T23:09:51 #kisslinux <onodera> does anyone know icu does
2020-11-26T23:10:00 #kisslinux <onodera> for example I can compile mpd with and without icu support
2020-11-26T23:10:03 #kisslinux <onodera> will i miss something
2020-11-26T23:15:43 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> isnt it some internationalization stuff like i18n