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2020-06-16T01:45:15 #kisslinux <ectlunya> I was playing around with the wiki formatting. Does anyone like this new format, I think some <b> tags could go a long way
2020-06-16T01:45:21 #kisslinux <ectlunya> http://ix.io/2pj2
2020-06-16T02:14:45 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> i would opt to use 4 spaces instead of tabs.  but looks decent.  could probably just get away with removing the decoration around text blocks and call it a day.
2020-06-16T02:15:37 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> in terms of the nav, it seems like a lot in the side nav currently could reside in the wiki.
2020-06-16T02:17:07 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> i am a fan of the top nav.
2020-06-16T02:30:18 #kisslinux <ectlunya> I thought 8 might be good just to make it more obvious but since everything else uses 4 you're probably right
2020-06-16T09:41:52 #kisslinux <claudia02> Re: Format for wiki pages: Here just some thoughts. For me the layout with the boxes works a lot better when viewed local in the editor. On the website however, it is hard for me to catch the actual headings because the boxes are so heavy.
2020-06-16T09:44:06 #kisslinux <claudia02> I have also formatted the wpa_supplicant article. I removed the boxes. There are 3 empty linbes between each heading section and 2 empty lines to seperate the codeblock to the following text.
2020-06-16T09:44:14 #kisslinux <claudia02> https://termbin.com/4xuc
2020-06-16T09:48:28 #kisslinux <obsessive[m]1> I like the minimalism. On mobile it looks a bit akward because the heading line wraps
2020-06-16T09:49:15 #kisslinux <claudia02> I think the boxes, because of their visual heaviness, can work pretty good for important stuff like warnings and so on.
2020-06-16T09:51:45 #kisslinux <claudia02> Also I suggest to see the wiki seperate to the rest of the website, to not destroy the efforts which are already gone into it.
2020-06-16T11:42:07 #kisslinux <buffet> keep https://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-b-and-i-tags in mind when using <b> though
2020-06-16T11:57:21 #kisslinux <onodera> pasting in firefox sometimes freezed it for like 5 seconds
2020-06-16T11:57:25 #kisslinux <onodera> anyone else experiencing this?
2020-06-16T12:01:58 #kisslinux <djt3[m]1> <onodera "anyone else experiencing this?"> nope, notifications completley crash mine tho
2020-06-16T12:31:18 #kisslinux <onodera> yeah mine too
2020-06-16T12:31:20 #kisslinux <onodera> turned them off
2020-06-16T14:04:55 #kisslinux <djt3[m]1> <onodera "turned them off"> how?
2020-06-16T14:05:03 #kisslinux <djt3[m]1> i cant find how to disable addon notification
2020-06-16T19:13:26 #kisslinux <micro_O> 2cents regarding the formatting discussion. it always bothered me that command prompts included the $ as a prefix for the same reason you cannot copy paste
2020-06-16T19:13:55 #kisslinux <micro_O> nd honestly, why $ as prompt character?)
2020-06-16T19:16:05 #kisslinux <himmalerin> $ is just used as a "the following is a terminal command" thing I think, afaik it's mainly because that's how most shells show you're on a new line
2020-06-16T19:52:32 #kisslinux <aarng> > nd honestly, why $ as prompt character?)
2020-06-16T19:52:42 #kisslinux <aarng> ask stephen bourne
2020-06-16T19:54:31 #kisslinux <aarng> and since it's the default prompt character in most bourne shell like shells, it makes sense to mark commands using $
2020-06-16T20:15:35 #kisslinux <Evil_Bob> the bourne identity
2020-06-16T20:17:06 #kisslinux <Evil_Bob> for europeans: PS1="€ "
2020-06-16T20:17:17 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> lol
2020-06-16T20:24:48 #kisslinux <micro_O> yeah im looking at the source code for the version of bash distributed in version 7 of unix, and the definition is in msg.c but uh, no commit messages with any explanation deeper than that
2020-06-16T20:30:51 #kisslinux <aarng> that's not bash, that's the bourne shell
2020-06-16T20:33:26 #kisslinux <micro_O> sorry, bourne, not bourne again
2020-06-16T20:33:35 #kisslinux <micro_O> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTS_system_architecture#Command_language << interesting
2020-06-16T20:33:56 #kisslinux <micro_O> > In batch jobs, following invalid commands and some other errors, MTS looks for the next line that starts with a dollar-sign ($) in column 1 as the next command to execute
2020-06-16T20:35:22 #kisslinux <micro_O> I wonder if Stephen Bourne used MTS
2020-06-16T20:39:05 #kisslinux <aarng> that could be a reason. Some comment on stackoverflow also mentioned punch cards.
2020-06-16T20:40:45 #kisslinux <aarng> oh, that's related to MTS actually, nvm
2020-06-16T20:42:05 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> dumb question.... anyone know of a reliable src that packages tarballs the closer to the latest git src version?   im trying to find one specifically for x11vnc that is more recent jan Jan 5, 2019 -.-
2020-06-16T20:43:55 #kisslinux <vitorhugo> aarng: usually, in documentation, it's a convention to have "$" for user run commands and "#" for commands that need to be run as root.
2020-06-16T20:44:30 #kisslinux <aarng> yeah, I know
2020-06-16T20:50:02 #kisslinux <ectlunya> micro_O: in the original unix they used an '@' instead
2020-06-16T20:50:58 #kisslinux <ectlunya> there's a lot of interesting history here: http://doc.cat-v.org/
2020-06-16T20:52:02 #kisslinux <micr0> my first bare-metal nix was actually some weird aix machine
2020-06-16T20:52:06 #kisslinux <micr0> and i think it used %
2020-06-16T21:31:56 #kisslinux <obsessive[m]1> im glad its not solved with a full blown javascript framework to provide a copy/paste widget
2020-06-16T22:40:25 #kisslinux <himmalerin> what's with all the join/leaving going on?
2020-06-16T22:58:39 #kisslinux <jedavies> netsplit