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2019-11-22T00:06:32 #kisslinux <stee> atkka: from what i am told it uses all the cores
2019-11-22T00:13:42 #kisslinux <atkka> stee: thanks, dang this is slow :)
2019-11-22T01:44:39 #kisslinux <konimex> atkka: if using GNU make, it probably defaults to 1 core
2019-11-22T01:44:47 #kisslinux <konimex> if using ninja/samurai, it defaults to all cores
2019-11-22T01:49:10 #kisslinux <atkka> I just used the default kiss build
2019-11-22T01:49:20 #kisslinux <atkka> doing my first install
2019-11-22T01:49:34 #kisslinux <atkka> still going
2019-11-22T01:56:17 #kisslinux <atkka> 2008 macbook, Core 2, 4G ram
2019-11-22T01:56:38 #kisslinux <atkka> never used a source based distro before
2019-11-22T01:58:30 #kisslinux <bluwu> oh thats rough
2019-11-22T01:59:59 #kisslinux <atkka> yeah, its educational though
2019-11-22T02:00:30 #kisslinux <atkka> I'm going to keep it as minimal as possible, no X, dvtm + lynx, vis, irssi, mutt
2019-11-22T02:01:40 #kisslinux <atkka> it should be a good text based terminal though, I really like the keyboard on this laptop, actually has travel compared to the stuff out there today
2019-11-22T02:07:08 #kisslinux <bluwu> ah thats sounds cool
2019-11-22T02:57:37 #kisslinux <atkka> done, only 5.5 hours to compile base install!
2019-11-22T09:23:59 #kisslinux <atkka> I should compile my kernel without initramfs/initrd support right?
2019-11-22T09:34:26 #kisslinux <konimex> well, unless we have someone an initramfs, yes
2019-11-22T09:34:35 #kisslinux <konimex> s/someone an/someone building/
2019-11-22T09:35:10 #kisslinux <atkka> k, I saw that one may be in the works but didn't know if there was a reason to keep it enabled otherwise
2019-11-22T09:37:51 #kisslinux <atkka> anyone use kiss with luks
2019-11-22T09:39:20 #kisslinux <konimex> I don't, but if you're planning to use Full-Disk Encryption, see https://getkiss.org/pages/faq#is-full-disk-encryption-supported
2019-11-22T09:39:29 #kisslinux <atkka> I am there
2019-11-22T09:39:58 #kisslinux <atkka> just new to some of the stuff in the linked kernel.org page
2019-11-22T18:04:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Interesting: https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:main:rusts_freedom_flaws and https://trisquel.info/en/forum/rust-non-free
2019-11-22T18:15:13 #kisslinux <stee> hmm, I wonder what they will rename Rust to
2019-11-22T19:20:21 #kisslinux <E5ten> dylanaraps: have you looked at efivar's build system changes since the latest release? it's fucking insane now
2019-11-22T19:48:54 #kisslinux <atkka> stee: dust
2019-11-22T19:49:39 #kisslinux <stee> not bad
2019-11-22T20:21:41 #kisslinux <atkka> question, when installing grub I get: Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
2019-11-22T20:22:20 #kisslinux <atkka> then I get modprobe: can't change directory to 4.14.69-0-vanilla: no such file or directory.
2019-11-22T20:22:38 #kisslinux <atkka> followed by Installation finished. No error reported.
2019-11-22T20:23:20 #kisslinux <atkka> any idea why its throwing the modprobe error about a much older linux kernel than 5.3 like I installed?
2019-11-22T20:37:35 #kisslinux <atkka> it also appears that you need dmsetup to use encryption without an initramfs
2019-11-22T21:00:46 #kisslinux <atkka> ah nm on the 4.14.69-0-vanilla kernel, thats the kernel from my chroot host
2019-11-22T21:10:34 #kisslinux <konimex> some of the GNU guys are nuts when it comes to Rust (same problem with Firefox and Debian back in the day)
2019-11-22T21:27:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> oi oi oi
2019-11-22T21:27:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/commit/34af374c7d584186b632d81cdbaafb674c1f4dee
2019-11-22T21:27:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> [...] Or we could also just leak the shared memory buffer, is there any reason why we
2019-11-22T21:27:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> may not want to do that?
2019-11-22T21:27:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/commit/257b0bc3c4ac8ca91947db96ae8a53480d928237
2019-11-22T21:27:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Leak shared memory for the lifetime of the process. Seems less gnarly than the alternatives, and we'd only free it until shutdown so
2019-11-22T21:27:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> not much worse, actually.
2019-11-22T21:28:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Firefox will intentionally leak shared memory as of 71.0.
2019-11-22T21:28:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ?!?!?
2019-11-22T21:29:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> E5ten: I haven't looked at efivar. Will do so now.
2019-11-22T21:56:19 #kisslinux <E5ten> Among many many many other problems one really obvious one is that it takes your LDFLAGS and generates CCLDFLAGS by adding -Wl, before everything in LDFLAGS, but LDFLAGS is already meant to be in a form fit for passing to the compiler when invoking the linker, it's not supposed to be passed to the linker directly
2019-11-22T21:56:45 #kisslinux <E5ten> And then it tries to use CCLDFLAGS and errors cuz -Wl,-Wl...
2019-11-22T21:57:17 #kisslinux <E5ten> That build system desperately needs a cmake or meson replacement
2019-11-22T21:58:53 #kisslinux <E5ten> I think I'll try to write a cmake one when I get home cuz I can't even build the git release
2019-11-22T21:59:20 #kisslinux <E5ten> s/the git release/master/
2019-11-22T22:05:41 #kisslinux <E5ten> Now that I think about it if I also wrote a cmake build system for efibootmgr that'd probably make it trivially possible to support building a static efivar as part of efibootmgr's build for bundling purposes
2019-11-22T22:06:30 #kisslinux <E5ten> Just like one option, a check if an efivar subdirectory exists, and an add_subdirectory()
2019-11-22T22:14:53 #kisslinux <atkka> hello, anyone have a luks root working with kiss?