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I recommend using Mumble (opensource gaming VOIP) + XMPP (opensource messaging)+ Jitsi (opensource video meeting) for online meetings , during the World Convid Plandemic of 2020-2024 Avoid wearing the Goverment Mask Muzzle or Big Phama Jab Not everyone is in USA or the same state of USA/X Nation Profanity is a simple XMMP client - https://profanity-im.github.io/ Also I recommend avoiding Freednode + Libre chat IRC server you dont get free speech on it, its the same "woke" censorship Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Sunday, May 23, 2021 9:25 AM, <gemini-request@lists.orbitalfox.eu> wrote: > Send Gemini mailing list submissions to > gemini@lists.orbitalfox.eu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/listinfo/gemini > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > gemini-request@lists.orbitalfox.eu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > gemini-owner@lists.orbitalfox.eu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Gemini digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [tech] Integrity checks for Gemini pages (nervuri) > 2. [users] Article: links and anchors (Chris McGee) > 3. Re: [tech] Integrity checks for Gemini pages (nothien@uber.space) > 4. Gemini meetup? (alex wennerberg) > 5. Re: Gemini meetup? (panda-roux) > 6. Re: Gemini meetup? (Rohan Kumar) > 7. Bay Area Gemini Meetup [Was: Gemini meetup?] (Emma Humphries) > 8. Re: Gemini meetup? (Jonathan McHugh) > > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 16:16:25 +0000 > From: nervuri nervuri@disroot.org > To: nothien@uber.space > Cc: "ew.gemini" ew.gemini@nassur.net, gemini@lists.orbitalfox.eu > Subject: Re: [tech] Integrity checks for Gemini pages > Message-ID: 20210522161625.GA25966@host > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > On Fri, 2021-05-21, nothien@uber.space wrote: > > > If servers have not yet been fixed to use close_notify, then there's no > > hope that they would implement any new companion specs / technologies > > for providing integrity. > > My suggestions don't entail changes in server software. > > > If a user of such a server wants integrity, then they should request it > > of the maintainer of the server code, or switch to a different server; > > there are many out there with the same features. > > The user of a pubnix or a flounder-style hosting service would likely > not be in a position to determine what server is used. But they would > be able to create well-known files or append hash fragments to a few > links. The idea of hash fragments for third-party links would be > especially interesting to explore, I think. > > > Integrity on the server-side is out of the scope of Gemini > > As are many features of current Gemini clients. > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 12:50:14 -0400 > From: Chris McGee newton688@gmail.com > To: gemini@lists.orbitalfox.eu > Subject: [users] Article: links and anchors > Message-ID: > CAOk9ws0pTOo8g-VeeRiL6h2OpZYHGMW+gvbjUy_j5EBzp=0DhA@mail.gmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi All, > > I've written an article on hyperlinking in gemini. > > gemini://lonelysilo.ca/article/links-and-anchors.gmi > > Cheers, > Chris > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/attachments/20210522/d75 50cb7/attachment-0001.htm > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 22:48:44 +0100 > From: nothien@uber.space > To: nervuri nervuri@disroot.org > Cc: "ew.gemini" ew.gemini@nassur.net, gemini@lists.orbitalfox.eu > Subject: Re: [tech] Integrity checks for Gemini pages > Message-ID: 3KSWVXZK44DRK.32JOUY4QKZKXY@nothien.uber.space > > nervurinervuri@disroot.org wrote: > > > On Fri, 2021-05-21, nothien@uber.space wrote: > > > > > If servers have not yet been fixed to use close_notify, then there's > > > no hope that they would implement any new companion specs / > > > technologies for providing integrity. > > > > My suggestions don't entail changes in server software. > > But your suggestions are patch-up solutions over issues with server > software. Instead of adding more complexity into the situation, push > for better (more correct) server software. > > > > If a user of such a server wants integrity, then they should request > > > it of the maintainer of the server code, or switch to a different > > > server; there are many out there with the same features. > > > > The user of a pubnix or a flounder-style hosting service would likely > > not be in a position to determine what server is used. But they would > > be able to create well-known files or append hash fragments to a few > > links. > > But they can (and should!) request their providers to update their > software. Users should never have to pay for the faults of their server > providers anyways. > > > The idea of hash fragments for third-party links would be especially > > interesting to explore, I think. > > They would only be feasible for static files, such as tarballs etc. that > never change, as otherwise any changes (e.g. fixing typos) would break > hash fragments from third-party sites to the current one. The issue > thus becomes that it may be misused (i.e. used in the wrong contexts); > there is no way to stop this from happening, and it would only add more > pain to the situation. Better to rely on explicit hash files in these > situations, as is already the convention. > > > > Integrity on the server-side is out of the scope of Gemini > > > > As are many features of current Gemini clients. > > Such as? I'm considering specifically the communication of data over > the network via the Gemini protocol. Gemini clients obviously have more > things to do. > > ~aravk | ~nothien > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 22:37:53 -0700 > From: "alex wennerberg" alex@alexwennerberg.com > To: gemini@lists.orbitalfox.eu > Subject: Gemini meetup? > Message-ID: CBKDS7L8O705.2QO8ULNHY0IVN@debian-alex > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hey all, now that the world is sort of opening up again, how would you > all feel about a Gemini meetup? I am located in the Bay Area, I wonder > if there's enough folks here to put together a small group. I'm not sure > if I have the resources to organize such a thing, but just wanted to > float the idea. > > Alex > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 22:50:45 -0700 > From: panda-roux contact@panda-roux.dev > To: alex wennerberg alex@alexwennerberg.com > Cc: gemini@lists.orbitalfox.eu > Subject: Re: Gemini meetup? > Message-ID: 20210523055045.elenme5zcxa4uu23@GLOIN > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am close enough to the bay to be able to make it, so I would be down. > If we can get enough folks willing perhaps we could find a place that's > somewhat central to where enough of us are at. > > panda-roux > > On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 10:37:53PM -0700, alex wennerberg wrote: > > > Hey all, now that the world is sort of opening up again, how would you > > all feel about a Gemini meetup? I am located in the Bay Area, I wonder > > if there's enough folks here to put together a small group. I'm not sure > > if I have the resources to organize such a thing, but just wanted to > > float the idea. > > Alex > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 488 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/attachments/20210522/589 e1fa8/attachment-0001.sig > > -- > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 00:08:32 -0700 > From: Rohan Kumar seirdy@seirdy.one > To: panda-roux contact@panda-roux.dev > Cc: alex wennerberg alex@alexwennerberg.com, > > gemini@lists.orbitalfox.eu > > > Subject: Re: Gemini meetup? > Message-ID: > 20210523070832.6i5bdxsvc45fmbm5@rkumarlappie.attlocal.net > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" > > I'm in the South Bay Area, and would be down for a meetup. It's probably > best to wait another month or two while vaccinations roll out. > > I'm cool with meeting over something like Mumble until then, though. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------- > > /Seirdy > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 898 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/attachments/20210523/665 dfab6/attachment-0001.sig > > -- > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 00:51:26 -0700 > From: "Emma Humphries" ech@emmah.net > To: gemini@lists.orbitalfox.eu > Subject: Bay Area Gemini Meetup [Was: Gemini meetup?] > Message-ID: edcf64fb-8e76-491d-bc22-5cf986bbe61b@www.fastmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain > > I'm in Oakland and anything I can reach by bicycle, bus, or BART would be great. > > On Sun, May 23, 2021, at 00:08, Rohan Kumar wrote: > > > I'm in the South Bay Area, and would be down for a meetup. It's probably > > best to wait another month or two while vaccinations roll out. > > I'm cool with meeting over something like Mumble until then, though. > > -- > > /Seirdy > > Attachments: > > > > - signature.asc > > -- > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 11:22:47 +0200 > From: Jonathan McHugh indieterminacy@libre.brussels > To: gemini@lists.orbitalfox.eu > Subject: Re: Gemini meetup? > Message-ID: 87mtslby8o.fsf@libre.brussels > Content-Type: text/plain > > Im happy to propose Brussels, Belgium for anybody in Western Europe. > > Jonathan > > alex wennerberg alex@alexwennerberg.com writes: > > > Hey all, now that the world is sort of opening up again, how would you > > all feel about a Gemini meetup? I am located in the Bay Area, I wonder > > if there's enough folks here to put together a small group. I'm not sure > > if I have the resources to organize such a thing, but just wanted to > > float the idea. > > Alex > > -- > > Jonathan McHugh > indieterminacy@libre.brussels > > > ----------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Digest Footer > > Gemini mailing list > Gemini@lists.orbitalfox.eu > https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/listinfo/gemini > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- > > End of Gemini Digest, Vol 22, Issue 25
On 23/05/2021 14:27, charliebrownau wrote: > I recommend using Mumble (opensource gaming VOIP) + > XMPP (opensource messaging)+ Jitsi (opensource video meeting) > for online meetings I expect most gemini enthusiasts already agree with you on this. There is a strong connection with FOSS. The rest of your email is about various unrelated beliefs of yours. I would ask you to try staying on-topic. Note that the above is not meant as a plea to "keep politics out of Gemini" or something. Gemini has some political implications - to some extent it works against the adtech industry and furthers free speech. It is meant instead as a plea to keep this list about Gemini. Also, why quote the whole digest? -- pjvm
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