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Hi! I wrote a Firefox addon for enabling the Gemini protocol. It's dead simple: it just redirects gemini:// URLs & links to a HTTP-to-Gemini proxy (similar to OverbiteWX for Gopher). By default it uses one of the two public proxies, but it can be configured to use a custom one. You can find it here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/geminize Louis
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 08:58:45PM +0000, louis at waffle.tech <louis at waffle.tech> wrote a message of 6 lines which said: > I wrote a Firefox addon for enabling the Gemini protocol. It's dead > simple: it just redirects gemini:// URLs & links to a HTTP-to-Gemini > proxy No "native" Gemini add-on for Firefox? I don't find one in <gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/software/> at the "Browser plugins" entry [side note: for this sort of things, fragments in URI <gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/gemini/fragment.gmi> could be useful]. But I do not see yours either, I assume this list is maintained with some delay.
You simply can't write a "native" Gemini add-on. Mozillas dweb project (which would have enabled you to build protocols other than http into the browser as an add-on) is dead in the water, everybody who had been working on it does not work at Mozilla anymore and the bug tracker status is like "we aren't really interested, maybe, if you write it yourself, we might accept it into the Firefox codebase". Only upside is that Chromium does not do much better. On Fri, 2021-01-15 at 08:44 +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 08:58:45PM +0000, > ?louis at waffle.tech?<louis at waffle.tech> wrote > ?a message of 6 lines which said: > > > I wrote a Firefox addon for enabling the Gemini protocol. It's dead > > simple: it just redirects gemini:// URLs & links to a HTTP-to- > > Gemini > > proxy > > No "native" Gemini add-on for Firefox? I don't find one in > <gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/software/> at the "Browser > plugins" > entry [side note: for this sort of things, fragments in URI > <gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/gemini/fragment.gmi> could be > useful]. But I do not see yours either, I assume this list is > maintained with some delay.
> On Jan 15, 2021, at 11:55, Waweic <waweic at activ.ism.rocks> wrote: > > Only upside is that Chromium does not do much better. Where is the upside? ? ??? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/attachments/20210115/8f29 f4e1/attachment.htm> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: nq050505.gif Type: image/gif Size: 17633 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/attachments/20210115/8f29 f4e1/attachment.gif>
Waveic, That depends on how you define native. If you ship an add-on that uses "native messaging"[1] to talk to a companion app (such as a console python script), then you can have the companion app do the gemini protocol dance and send the data back to Firefox. What sucks is that you can't have the add-on install the native companion app for obvious security reasons, but if you can convince your user to run an installer, then it is all very easy. When I was developing some SSB add-on toys for Firefox, I initially used this approach and it worked fine. Later I started using WebSockets to talk to the SSB server instead which was much easier for the user. Still, using native messaging works, and it works across platforms and across browsers. Oh, an in the subject of add-ons, I vaguelly remember something about Brave is exposing sockets to add-on developers, you might want to check it out. I'm sad about libdweb as well. I was one of the contributors. It had so much potential, Mozilla totally dropped the ball. [1] Native Messaging: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/WebExtensions/Native_messaging On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 at 10:56, Waweic <waweic at activ.ism.rocks> wrote: > You simply can't write a "native" Gemini add-on. Mozillas dweb project > (which would have enabled you to build protocols other than http into > the browser as an add-on) is dead in the water, everybody who had been > working on it does not work at Mozilla anymore and the bug tracker > status is like "we aren't really interested, maybe, if you write it > yourself, we might accept it into the Firefox codebase". > Only upside is that Chromium does not do much better. > > On Fri, 2021-01-15 at 08:44 +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 08:58:45PM +0000, > > louis at waffle.tech <louis at waffle.tech> wrote > > a message of 6 lines which said: > > > > > I wrote a Firefox addon for enabling the Gemini protocol. It's dead > > > simple: it just redirects gemini:// URLs & links to a HTTP-to- > > > Gemini > > > proxy > > > > No "native" Gemini add-on for Firefox? I don't find one in > > <gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/software/> at the "Browser > > plugins" > > entry [side note: for this sort of things, fragments in URI > > <gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/gemini/fragment.gmi> could be > > useful]. But I do not see yours either, I assume this list is > > maintained with some delay. > > > -- https://www.andregarzia.com <http://www.andregarzia.com> Want to support me? Buy me a coffee at https://ko-fi.com/andregarzia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/attachments/20210119/7c05 0978/attachment.htm>
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 10:24 PM Andre Garzia <andre at andregarzia.com> wrote: > That depends on how you define native. If you ship an add-on that uses > "native messaging"[1] to talk to a companion app (such as a console python > script), then you can have the companion app do the gemini protocol dance > and send the data back to Firefox. > How would that be different from a regular Gemini-to-Web proxy that runs locally? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/attachments/20210119/d9b7 6474/attachment.htm>
John, That would be different in the sense that you'd have more access to the browser features for integration purposes. For example, you could intercept "gemini://" URLs, you could (provide an) override to the "new tab" page to list gemini aggregators, you could add a bookmarking system. You could inspect <meta> tags on a page to see if they have a "gemini url" declared and provide a page action to read using "gemini" instead. There are many things you can do with an add-on that you can't do with a local webservice. Best A On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 22:57, John Cowan <cowan at ccil.org> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 10:24 PM Andre Garzia <andre at andregarzia.com> > wrote: > > >> That depends on how you define native. If you ship an add-on that uses >> "native messaging"[1] to talk to a companion app (such as a console python >> script), then you can have the companion app do the gemini protocol dance >> and send the data back to Firefox. >> > > How would that be different from a regular Gemini-to-Web proxy that runs > locally? > -- https://www.andregarzia.com <http://www.andregarzia.com> Want to support me? Buy me a coffee at https://ko-fi.com/andregarzia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/attachments/20210120/035c 8d66/attachment.htm>
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