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[2023-11-14T00:20:46Z] <Guest59> hey has anyone used wayherb before for notifications, im a bit confused how it's installed [2023-11-14T02:53:03Z] <sewn> fnott [2023-11-14T03:35:24Z] <sewn> hj [2023-11-14T07:11:55Z] <sewn> hi midfavila [2023-11-14T07:59:07Z] <sewn> /quit [2023-11-14T08:13:50Z] <sewn> is anyone able to build cairo? [2023-11-14T08:13:51Z] <sewn> 'undefined reference to `backtrace_symbols' [2023-11-14T08:21:12Z] <sewn> found fix [2023-11-14T08:21:15Z] <sewn> where is ioraff [2023-11-14T08:21:17Z] <sewn> ioraff: hellooooo [2023-11-14T08:24:57Z] <midfavila> ioriffraff [2023-11-14T08:25:41Z] <sewn> mesa wont need llvm anymore woohoo [2023-11-14T08:26:09Z] <schillingklaus> what happens to mesa-llvmpipe? [2023-11-14T08:26:19Z] <sewn> yeah it dies, im making an issue so i can get maintainers thoughts [2023-11-14T08:26:26Z] <sewn> afaik lavapipe is just a cpu renderer [2023-11-14T08:27:33Z] <sewn> i think im dropping it lol [2023-11-14T08:27:44Z] <sewn> vulkan isnt even in repo and lavapipe is just vk [2023-11-14T08:27:48Z] <sewn> https://codeberg.org/kiss-community/repo/issues/173 [2023-11-14T08:33:55Z] <sewn> finally updated the switch to muon pr [2023-11-14T08:33:56Z] <sewn> https://codeberg.org/kiss-community/repo/pulls/148 [2023-11-14T08:33:59Z] <sewn> only thing thats unstable is mesa [2023-11-14T08:45:13Z] <ilt> sewn: what's inside /usr/include/execinfo.h and which package it owns [2023-11-14T08:45:19Z] <ilt> if exists [2023-11-14T08:45:59Z] <ilt> also nice work on muon [2023-11-14T08:47:07Z] <ilt> gnome crap is also potentially unstable, not only mesa [2023-11-14T08:47:59Z] <ilt> because of lacking gnome module support in muon [2023-11-14T08:53:41Z] <sewn> ilt: I assume musl owns execinfo [2023-11-14T08:53:45Z] <sewn> what are u referring to [2023-11-14T08:54:34Z] <ilt> musl doesn't support execinfo [2023-11-14T08:56:33Z] <sewn> wh [2023-11-14T08:56:49Z] <sewn> oh [2023-11-14T08:56:50Z] <sewn> libexecinfo [2023-11-14T08:57:00Z] <sewn> yeah libexecinfo does [2023-11-14T08:57:27Z] <ilt> purge it. it is harmful on musl [2023-11-14T08:57:52Z] <ilt> it is likely causing build error for you [2023-11-14T08:57:56Z] <sewn> what build error [2023-11-14T08:57:59Z] <sewn> cairo? [2023-11-14T08:58:13Z] <ilt> yep [2023-11-14T08:58:15Z] <sewn> no way [2023-11-14T08:58:24Z] <sewn> ill be embarrassed cuz i made prs on both repo and kiss-xorg [2023-11-14T08:58:51Z] <ilt> you have no choice [2023-11-14T08:59:19Z] <ilt> https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/tree/main/cairo/APKBUILD [2023-11-14T08:59:34Z] <sewn> what about it [2023-11-14T08:59:48Z] <ilt> alpine doesn't need fixes related to execinfo to build cairo [2023-11-14T09:00:00Z] <sewn> huh [2023-11-14T09:00:09Z] <sewn> going through alpine repository itseems they do not want execinfo anywhere [2023-11-14T09:00:20Z] <sewn> its in kiss-xorg and required by some kiss-xorg packages [2023-11-14T09:01:23Z] <sewn> can you tell me why libexecinfo is harmful for musl ilt? [2023-11-14T09:01:29Z] <sewn> so i can mention it in an issue there [2023-11-14T09:02:26Z] <ilt> because musl is militant against it, so it will always cause friction and build errors like you have with cairo [2023-11-14T09:02:57Z] <ilt> search 'musl execinfo' and you will find more info [2023-11-14T09:03:13Z] <sewn> got it [2023-11-14T09:04:19Z] <sewn> i wonder what will happen to community [2023-11-14T09:04:25Z] <sewn> most of everything in it depends on meson [2023-11-14T09:04:38Z] <sewn> so best case scenario just keep meson in there from repo or ask maintainers to switch to muon whenever possible [2023-11-14T09:04:41Z] <sewn> also the style guide [2023-11-14T09:07:31Z] <ilt> once/if meson is no longer needed, it will be moved to community. i don't think we should force people to switch to muon, not a big deal [2023-11-14T09:07:37Z] <sewn> true [2023-11-14T09:07:39Z] <sewn> but what about the style guide [2023-11-14T09:07:51Z] <sewn> i see too many packages in repo doing deprecated style and using 'output' instead of 'build' [2023-11-14T09:11:48Z] <ilt> style guide should be updated to reflect meson -> muon switch [2023-11-14T09:17:07Z] <sewn> and the build directory stuff awesome [2023-11-14T12:16:29Z] <sewn> hi eudaldgr [2023-11-14T12:16:36Z] <eudaldgr> hi [2023-11-14T16:08:54Z] <synima> Damn, real easy to install it the second time [2023-11-14T16:09:05Z] <synima> When youve fixed all of the fuck ups [2023-11-14T16:09:38Z] <synima> Gonna skip building firefox and just use flatpack for every application other than core [2023-11-14T16:48:35Z] <sewn> synima: oh cmon firefox aint that bad [2023-11-14T17:01:05Z] <synima> Its pretty bad on dual core sewn [2023-11-14T17:17:21Z] <synima> What flatpak repo should i use? [2023-11-14T17:17:44Z] <synima> Repo-flatpak has flatpak git [2023-11-14T17:21:47Z] <synima> Took like a minute and a half for my kernel to build the second time, guessing it wasnt fully building, but i cant complain [2023-11-14T17:30:37Z] <sewn> what [2023-11-14T17:30:42Z] <sewn> flatpak is not in repo [2023-11-14T17:30:47Z] <sewn> its in community [2023-11-14T17:30:58Z] <sewn> the post-install of flatpak tells you what remote repository to use [2023-11-14T18:25:36Z] <synima> Oh, i typed flatpack into kiss build lol [2023-11-14T18:25:46Z] <synima> Half of my errors on linux are due to typos lol [2023-11-14T19:12:23Z] <synima> Yall know where the failed to intialize ptp_kvm patch is? [2023-11-14T19:20:23Z] <synima> Nvm we good https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg2556474.html