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[2022-12-20T01:39:35Z] <midfavila> hey do any of you guys know the name of that new image format that came out a while ago?
[2022-12-20T01:39:43Z] <midfavila> its reference library is like 250 lines of C or something
[2022-12-20T01:39:52Z] <midfavila> it was a big deal on slashdot and stuff I think?
[2022-12-20T01:39:57Z] <midfavila> sorry for not being able to be more specific
[2022-12-20T01:40:24Z] <midfavila> it's supposed to be way smaller than png without any notable loss in quality
[2022-12-20T01:40:45Z] <midfavila> came out like 2020-2021..?
[2022-12-20T01:41:31Z] <midfavila> nvm found it
[2022-12-20T01:41:32Z] <midfavila> QOI
[2022-12-20T01:42:22Z] <midfavila> https://github.com/phoboslab/qoi
[2022-12-20T01:45:09Z] <illiliti> what about farbfeld?
[2022-12-20T01:45:20Z] <midfavila> farbfeld is also on my list
[2022-12-20T01:45:57Z] <midfavila> one of my longish term projects is to write a set of image manipulation tools. i'd like to have discrete binaries to handle encoding and decoding of specific formats
[2022-12-20T01:46:54Z] <midfavila> idea being you might, say, dec_png|iview, or dec_png|enc_ascii, or dec_png|img_invert|enc_ff -o foo.farb, or whatever
[2022-12-20T01:47:22Z] <midfavila> no idea how viable it is but I'm going to give it a shot regardless
[2022-12-20T01:47:54Z] <illiliti> good good
[2022-12-20T01:48:02Z] <midfavila> ye
[2022-12-20T01:48:42Z] <midfavila> i figure the accompanying image viewer could be relatively simple as a result of splitting functions up like that. would only need to support "raw" data
[2022-12-20T01:49:03Z] <midfavila> add the ability to redisplay whenever it receives data via stdin or something and now you can do animated images for free
[2022-12-20T01:49:46Z] <midfavila> add a framebuffer backend and an X11 backend and boom. all your image viewing (and potentially video viewing with the appropriate decoders?) needs met
[2022-12-20T01:56:04Z] <midfavila> *probably* gonna start with XPM/XBM-based utilities first though
[2022-12-20T01:56:14Z] <midfavila> i need something for taking screenshots that isn't xwd
[2022-12-20T07:28:49Z] <wael_> Hi
[2022-12-20T07:29:54Z] <wael_> midfavila: what sort of X software do you use anyway?
[2022-12-20T11:08:04Z] <phoebos> aren't qoi images larger than png
[2022-12-20T12:34:38Z] <midfavila> wael_ mostly what's included in the default X distribution
[2022-12-20T12:34:56Z] <midfavila> although I use rxvt instead of xterm
[2022-12-20T12:35:20Z] <midfavila> soon:tm: i'd like to modify a program i found called zterm to build without freetype-harfbuzz and Xft, and then I'm going to use that
[2022-12-20T12:35:43Z] <midfavila> mostly functional ansi terminal in ~2k lines of C
[2022-12-20T12:35:57Z] <midfavila> compared to the "small" rxvt, which is around 27k, and the "minimalist" st, which is like 7k
[2022-12-20T12:36:14Z] <testuser[m]> Hi
[2022-12-20T12:36:35Z] <midfavila> iH
[2022-12-20T12:36:56Z] <wael[m]> HH
[2022-12-20T12:37:05Z] <midfavila> :thinking:
[2022-12-20T12:37:44Z] <midfavila> i'd be careful posting that out of context given today's climate
[2022-12-20T12:38:54Z] <wael[m]> wat
[2022-12-20T12:39:38Z] <midfavila> just uh, look it up
[2022-12-20T12:40:24Z] <testuser[m]> What
[2022-12-20T12:41:02Z] <testuser[m]> Hand hug?
[2022-12-20T12:41:16Z] <wael[m]> whats a HH
[2022-12-20T12:41:23Z] <wael[m]> His Highness?
[2022-12-20T12:42:16Z] <midfavila> yeah something like that
[2022-12-20T12:42:24Z] <wael[m]> whats wrong
[2022-12-20T12:42:25Z] <wael[m]> with that
[2022-12-20T12:43:46Z] <testuser[m]> Ohhhhh
[2022-12-20T12:43:48Z] <testuser[m]> LOL
[2022-12-20T12:43:52Z] <wael[m]> i dont get it
[2022-12-20T12:43:58Z] <midfavila> like i said
[2022-12-20T12:44:01Z] <midfavila> look it up
[2022-12-20T12:44:11Z] <wael[m]> its 'his highness' or 'her
[2022-12-20T12:44:16Z] <wael[m]> what more is there
[2022-12-20T12:44:25Z] <midfavila> jfc
[2022-12-20T12:44:33Z] <wael[m]> whats ajfc
[2022-12-20T12:44:35Z] <wael[m]> i know kfc
[2022-12-20T12:44:38Z] <midfavila> it's too early for this shit
[2022-12-20T12:44:54Z] <wael[m]> wat
[2022-12-20T14:42:31Z] <Guest62> i heard it's not possible to flash an imei on google phones starting from pixel 6 because of the tensor chip the new devices have. does anyone know how that's so? i don't quite understand it and i haven't come across any explanations.
[2022-12-20T14:42:43Z] <wael[m]> this is a channel about kisslinux
[2022-12-20T14:43:16Z] <wael[m]> testuser: you might be one to answer lol
[2022-12-20T14:44:04Z] <Guest62> can i go off on a tangent a little bit? this is the only place i know
[2022-12-20T14:44:13Z] <wael[m]> hell yeah you can
[2022-12-20T14:50:32Z] <testuser[m]> wael: idk i don't deal with android crap much now
[2022-12-20T15:09:23Z] <wael[m]> when is kisscommunity.org gonna be back up and very good phoebos
[2022-12-20T15:11:05Z] <wael[m]> and also why not use scandir
[2022-12-20T16:45:48Z] <wael[m]> ${XDG_CACHE_HOME:-"${HOME%"${HOME##*[!/]}"}/.cache"}
[2022-12-20T16:45:48Z] <wael[m]> why
[2022-12-20T16:45:50Z] <wael[m]> why this
[2022-12-20T16:45:51Z] <wael[m]> what
[2022-12-20T16:46:02Z] <wael[m]> why not just ${XDG_CACHE_HOME:=$HOME/.cache}
[2022-12-20T17:07:50Z] <phoebos> wael[m]: dilyn owns kisscommunity.org
[2022-12-20T17:08:27Z] <phoebos> not sure what you meant, but suggestions/patches for the website are very welcome
[2022-12-20T17:08:53Z] <wael[m]> then why is kisscommunity a valid cname for your site
[2022-12-20T17:09:06Z] <phoebos> scandir where?
[2022-12-20T17:09:09Z] <wael[m]> phoebos: try visiting it and youd see what i mean
[2022-12-20T17:09:20Z] <wael[m]> phoebos: in kisscommunity wiki generator
[2022-12-20T17:10:00Z] <phoebos> it's not? wdym
[2022-12-20T17:10:14Z] <phoebos> could do yeah
[2022-12-20T17:10:16Z] <wael[m]> https://kisscommunity.org is 404
[2022-12-20T17:10:25Z] <phoebos> acheam copied the generator from suckless
[2022-12-20T17:10:37Z] <wael[m]> oh
[2022-12-20T17:10:38Z] <wael[m]> cool
[2022-12-20T17:10:45Z] <phoebos> yes, dilyn's domain points to github pages
[2022-12-20T17:11:14Z] <wael[m]> well why doesn't it work is my question, since it contains alot of important stuff i believe like install info and wiki
[2022-12-20T17:12:02Z] <phoebos> because github pages isn't set up, but the site is generated on my server
[2022-12-20T17:12:26Z] <wael[m]> then let dilyn forward the domain to your server i suppose
[2022-12-20T17:13:05Z] <phoebos> i could try setting up github pages tbf but it's totally awful
[2022-12-20T17:13:26Z] <phoebos> which is why we just went with using a server as usual
[2022-12-20T17:13:32Z] <wael[m]> dilyn: dilyn: dilyn:
[2022-12-20T18:00:09Z] <noocsharp> wael[m]: https://kisslinux.org has install info and some (maybe old) wiki content
[2022-12-20T18:00:23Z] <wael[m]> noocsharp: it has the old tarball
[2022-12-20T18:00:35Z] <wael[m]> and basically everyone using that is gonna end up with the grandpa repositories
[2022-12-20T18:01:25Z] <noocsharp> well the instructions still work i think, it's just the tarball that's bad
[2022-12-20T18:01:33Z] <wael[m]> exactly
[2022-12-20T18:03:14Z] <noocsharp> so use those instructions and the new tarball
[2022-12-20T18:03:46Z] <noocsharp> a sufficiently motivated user will figure it out when all their packages are outdated
[2022-12-20T18:04:11Z] <wael[m]> noocsharp: thats just a hassle to deal with
[2022-12-20T18:04:24Z] <wael[m]> when theres an install guide thats pretty up to date i believe
[2022-12-20T18:09:44Z] <noocsharp> where in https://github.com/kiss-community/kisscommunity.org is the install guide? i think if it was there that's where it would be, but i couldn't find it
[2022-12-20T18:10:03Z] <wael[m]> the one that was made by phoebos
[2022-12-20T18:23:08Z] <noocsharp> oh nvm, it's there
[2022-12-20T18:29:59Z] <noocsharp> where did you get kisscommunity.org from anyway?
[2022-12-20T18:30:29Z] <noocsharp> doesn't everything point to kisscommunity.bvnf.space?
[2022-12-20T18:34:27Z] <noocsharp> oh, i guess the repo name is kisscommunity.org
[2022-12-20T19:09:54Z] <wael_> dilyn owns the domain
[2022-12-20T19:10:12Z] <wael_> which is why I really suggest having it forward to phoebo's servers
[2022-12-20T19:10:39Z] <wael_> midfavila: are you unable to have multiple devices on the same account? Is that why you have midfavila-laptop ?
[2022-12-20T19:24:36Z] <phoebos> hei noocsharp
[2022-12-20T19:25:05Z] <phoebos> yeah i figured just a page of those differences to the official install guide is sufficient
[2022-12-20T19:26:04Z] <phoebos> there seemed to be a not-negligible number of new people getting confused by the old repos
[2022-12-20T19:26:40Z] <phoebos> this being kiss, not-negligible means more than 1