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[2022-08-03T02:22:46Z] <testuser[m]12> Hi
[2022-08-03T02:29:34Z] <illiliti> hi
[2022-08-03T02:46:21Z] <ioraff> hi
[2022-08-03T03:00:43Z] <noocsharp> hi
[2022-08-03T04:38:57Z] <Ogromny> hi
[2022-08-03T12:27:20Z] <Ogromny> Thoughs on this ?
[2022-08-03T12:27:22Z] <Ogromny> https://github.com/Ogromny/community-hooks
[2022-08-03T12:27:39Z] <Ogromny> If it's OK (don't break KISS philosophy), I'll make a PR
[2022-08-03T13:02:48Z] <wael[m]> Ogromny: it doesn't look very KISS
[2022-08-03T13:03:10Z] <wael[m]> it looks like you are making entire hook handler and stufd
[2022-08-03T13:03:48Z] <wael[m]> I'd expect that the kiss community hooks repo just have all hooks in the root directory, and the README in KISS style explaining what the hooks do.
[2022-08-03T13:05:32Z] <wael[m]> Having hooks in their own directory (post-build, post blah blah etc.), could break the fact that some hooks would do for many actions, example is a time it took for kiss to build, requires to take into 3 actions. I didn't steal it I swear.
[2022-08-03T13:05:53Z] <wael[m]> to be fair, init-hooks has no kiss style README
[2022-08-03T13:06:55Z] <wael[m]> But personally I have been loving the style of plain text README's, but I guess the repo maintainer/owner could decide.
[2022-08-03T13:10:46Z] <wael[m]> Also, we would need to link the kiss package manager wiki page index 006 so that anyone could make a hook
[2022-08-03T13:11:13Z] <Ogromny> Hum okok I see
[2022-08-03T13:12:46Z] <wael[m]> Also, please don't use base name to get working directory
[2022-08-03T13:12:55Z] <wael[m]> Use ${0##*/}
[2022-08-03T13:13:14Z] <wael[m]> But since hooks are going to be added manually I don't think we need a helper
[2022-08-03T13:13:30Z] <Ogromny> Ty ^^
[2022-08-03T19:18:05Z] <phinxy> Is Wireshark Qt only or GTK still there?
[2022-08-03T19:20:36Z] <phinxy> Wireshark requires Qt 5.9 or later! Booo!
[2022-08-03T19:27:42Z] <wael[m]> watchu need it for
[2022-08-03T19:36:55Z] <phinxy> View a tcpdump capture. The data is gzip HTTP, about 100 characters.
[2022-08-03T19:37:47Z] <phinxy> tried to paste the data in to an online gzip converter :P didn't work.
[2022-08-03T19:48:12Z] <wael[m]> I don't think you need wireshark for that
[2022-08-03T19:48:23Z] <wael[m]> You have all the CLI tools you want
[2022-08-03T19:48:48Z] <wael[m]> I'm sure there's one already on your system that can do it
[2022-08-03T19:49:19Z] <wael[m]> If you are on Linux gzip is already installed and you can try it to extract
[2022-08-03T19:51:35Z] <phinxy> I'm not sure where the gzip data starts and ends and how to splice it to a file properly so all chars are there. I'll try.
[2022-08-03T19:53:13Z] <testuser[m]12> while (strcmp(buf, gzip_magic) != 0) (*buf == '\0' ? abort() : buf++)
[2022-08-03T19:53:57Z] <wael[m]> Doesnt this just read gzip till NUL is reached?
[2022-08-03T19:55:34Z] <zou0> Hi guys, I'm having problems compiling the kernel Output is a diff with an unrecognized option: I and subcmd-util.h with various errors
[2022-08-03T19:56:57Z] <wael[m]> Can you upload the errors to termbin?
[2022-08-03T19:57:01Z] <ioraff> the unrecognized diff option doesn't terminate the build. send a log please.
[2022-08-03T19:57:07Z] <zou0> ok
[2022-08-03T19:57:12Z] <wael[m]> If kernel has weird grep unrecognized option ignore it
[2022-08-03T20:01:01Z] <zou0> here
[2022-08-03T20:01:05Z] <zou0> https://clbin.com/SiDrG
[2022-08-03T20:01:26Z] <ioraff> https://github.com/kiss-community/repo/issues/79
[2022-08-03T20:06:03Z] <wael[m]> Wait has the patch not merges yet, ioraff?
[2022-08-03T20:06:48Z] <ioraff> no. and the initial response is not promising
[2022-08-03T20:06:49Z] <ioraff> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-kbuild/CAK7LNASEEU1-GqH1BiwU5P3L0kF5vwQ2WQ4njZrHQt0Z9ok47g@mail.gmail.com/T/#t
[2022-08-03T20:07:33Z] <wael[m]> Oh god are you fucking kidding me
[2022-08-03T20:07:38Z] <wael[m]> I don't wanna use BSD nooooo
[2022-08-03T20:07:47Z] <zou0> lol
[2022-08-03T20:08:19Z] <wael[m]> This literally makes it POSIX compliant, able to work on many systems
[2022-08-03T20:08:31Z] <wael[m]> In what world is it 'not worth the effort'
[2022-08-03T20:09:11Z] <ioraff> to play devil's advocate, it won't need to work on non-Linux systems.
[2022-08-03T20:09:41Z] <zou0> what kernel version are you using?
[2022-08-03T20:10:37Z] <ioraff> 5.19
[2022-08-03T20:13:21Z] <zou0> Why old kernel versions like 5.10.x/5.4.x can't compile on kiss?
[2022-08-03T20:13:45Z] <ioraff> this is news to me
[2022-08-03T20:17:33Z] <ioraff> I sent my benchmarks that show a non-negligible speedup. maybe that'll be enough
[2022-08-03T20:18:28Z] <wael[m]> Its shocking they want to use bash over POSIX
[2022-08-03T20:21:40Z] <ioraff> it's really not
[2022-08-03T20:25:37Z] <zou0> Is it still necessary to do #24 from the wiki?
[2022-08-03T20:25:54Z] <ioraff> no
[2022-08-03T20:32:19Z] <wael[m]> What's #24 again?
[2022-08-03T20:33:45Z] <zou0> |
[2022-08-03T20:33:45Z] <zou0> | $ kiss b libelf |
[2022-08-03T20:33:45Z] <zou0> | |
[2022-08-03T20:33:45Z] <zou0> | |
[2022-08-03T20:33:45Z] <zou0> | The following fix may also need to be applied. |
[2022-08-03T20:33:46Z] <zou0> | |
[2022-08-03T20:33:46Z] <zou0> | $ sed '/<stdlib.h>/a #include <linux/stddef.h>' \ |
[2022-08-03T20:33:47Z] <zou0> | tools/objtool/arch/x86/decode.c > _ |
[2022-08-03T20:34:12Z] <zou0> basically this
[2022-08-03T20:35:15Z] <zou0> but, wdym again?
[2022-08-03T20:42:15Z] <ioraff> what were you referring to about older kernels not compiling on kiss?
[2022-08-03T20:44:19Z] <zou0> I saw a guy on discord saying that 5.9.x/5.18.x kernels and others werent compiling
[2022-08-03T20:45:43Z] <zou0> it was specifically 5.9.1/5.18.15 (I don't know why he uses an old kernel like this)
[2022-08-03T20:48:36Z] <ioraff> 5.9.1 doesn't work because of a -Werror=..., so presumable a compiler improvement. 5.18.15 definitely builds.
[2022-08-03T20:51:00Z] <zou0> Oh
[2022-08-03T21:10:14Z] <phoebos> noocsharp: also https://etherpad.org/