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[2022-03-13T00:43:50Z] <sad_plan> nevermind
[2022-03-13T01:14:38Z] <midfavila> sad_plan I use everything under core/official and mbase
[2022-03-13T01:41:24Z] <sad_plan> ok, cool
[2022-03-13T03:19:20Z] <testuser[m]> Hi
[2022-03-13T03:19:55Z] <sad_plan> hi
[2022-03-13T12:56:55Z] <illiliti> https://github.com/kiss-community/repo/pull/48
[2022-03-13T13:14:46Z] <illiliti> in ideal world, we should be able to get rid of glib
[2022-03-13T13:14:56Z] <illiliti> but that's not possible sadly :(
[2022-03-13T13:15:07Z] <illiliti> this garbage hardcoded everywhere
[2022-03-13T13:16:10Z] <testuser[m]> What's so bad about it
[2022-03-13T13:16:13Z] <testuser[m]> What does it even do
[2022-03-13T13:16:21Z] <testuser[m]> I've only seen it used for some DS
[2022-03-13T13:18:06Z] <illiliti> suckless has some good notes about it
[2022-03-13T13:19:00Z] <illiliti> basically, it tries to bring java into c
[2022-03-13T13:19:16Z] <illiliti> absolute madness
[2022-03-13T13:19:44Z] <testuser[m]> The only point on the suckless page is that it aborts on OOM which is indeed bad for a library but tbh it's acceptable
[2022-03-13T13:21:00Z] <illiliti> no, it's not acceptable
[2022-03-13T13:21:07Z] <illiliti> it is highly abused by soydevs who don't understand idiomatic c
[2022-03-13T13:22:26Z] <testuser[m]> What do u do if malloc fails
[2022-03-13T13:22:47Z] <testuser[m]> In my libs i don't abort but in programs i do
[2022-03-13T13:22:53Z] <testuser[m]> in libs u return failure
[2022-03-13T13:25:45Z] <illiliti> depends
[2022-03-13T14:53:49Z] <dilyn> testuser[m]: yes, tab crashing is a big problem for me and always has been on chromium :v
[2022-03-13T16:07:42Z] <anonym> Hi
[2022-03-13T16:07:55Z] <anonym> testuser[m]: have you tried nouveau?
[2022-03-13T16:08:08Z] <illiliti> dilyn: at least tab crashing is a good indicator that website is bloated af
[2022-03-13T16:08:28Z] <dilyn> happens a lot on google's websites
[2022-03-13T16:08:38Z] <dilyn> I frequently experience tab crashes during work meetings:)
[2022-03-13T16:10:08Z] <illiliti> google websites are full of spyware javascript. no wonder why they crash xd
[2022-03-13T16:10:29Z] <testuser[m]> What reply do u give
[2022-03-13T16:10:30Z] <testuser[m]> anonym: no
[2022-03-13T16:11:32Z] <illiliti> ?
[2022-03-13T16:14:45Z] <testuser[m]> illiliti: i was asking dilyn
[2022-03-13T16:15:04Z] <illiliti> ok
[2022-03-13T16:15:17Z] <dilyn> "This meeting's so nice I joined it twice"
[2022-03-13T16:15:39Z] <dilyn> because for about two minutes there's an overlap between my frozen, crashed instance and the new and improved instance :v
[2022-03-13T16:16:42Z] <testuser[m]> Why don't u just use ff
[2022-03-13T16:17:09Z] <dilyn> Because building rust is a slog I don't appreciate
[2022-03-13T16:17:15Z] <dilyn> building chromium is faster than building rust+firefox
[2022-03-13T16:17:34Z] <testuser[m]> but building rust once in 3 months and building ff is faster
[2022-03-13T16:17:38Z] <testuser[m]> 20 mins vs 6 hrs
[2022-03-13T16:18:22Z] <dilyn> i mean that's also true
[2022-03-13T16:18:23Z] <dilyn> but
[2022-03-13T16:18:27Z] <dilyn> https://github.com/kiss-community/repo/blob/master/extra/firefox/depends
[2022-03-13T16:18:30Z] <dilyn> this is the other reason :v
[2022-03-13T16:18:37Z] <dilyn> I use firefox in my Ubuntu VM for work at least... xD
[2022-03-13T16:18:56Z] <testuser[m]> Aren't the deps the same almost?
[2022-03-13T16:19:01Z] <dilyn> gtk
[2022-03-13T16:19:03Z] <testuser[m]> Oh ig u removed gtk from chromium
[2022-03-13T16:19:06Z] <testuser[m]> yea
[2022-03-13T16:19:07Z] <dilyn> yah
[2022-03-13T16:19:17Z] <dilyn> aura needs to get better. I want my dialog boxes back
[2022-03-13T16:19:38Z] <testuser[m]> ur so dedicated
[2022-03-13T16:19:43Z] <dilyn> finding alternative ways of uploading files is a challenge. Some websites are smart enough to allow you to do it from file://
[2022-03-13T16:20:02Z] <dilyn> I'm just willing to forgo minor convenience for principles :c
[2022-03-13T16:21:26Z] <testuser[m]> Btw do u manually check outdated packages for community repo
[2022-03-13T16:21:35Z] <dilyn> about once a month
[2022-03-13T16:21:53Z] <testuser[m]> How
[2022-03-13T16:22:00Z] <testuser[m]> There's hundreds of them
[2022-03-13T16:22:10Z] <dilyn> wdym?
[2022-03-13T16:22:15Z] <dilyn> kiss out git/community
[2022-03-13T16:23:06Z] <testuser[m]> Yea i was asking if u did it by hand
[2022-03-13T16:23:10Z] <testuser[m]> Lol
[2022-03-13T16:23:15Z] <dilyn> oic
[2022-03-13T16:23:20Z] <testuser[m]> Instead of the outdated script
[2022-03-13T16:23:21Z] <dilyn> lol yeah no fuck that
[2022-03-13T16:29:39Z] <testuser[m]> illiliti: what was the problem with firefox ipv6 again?
[2022-03-13T16:50:32Z] <illiliti> it doesn't work at all
[2022-03-13T16:50:54Z] <illiliti> even direct access by ip address
[2022-03-13T17:04:16Z] <testuser[m]> illiliti: what does it say
[2022-03-13T17:05:01Z] <testuser[m]> exactly
[2022-03-13T17:06:51Z] <illiliti> i don't remember
[2022-03-13T17:06:55Z] <illiliti> i'm not at home atm
[2022-03-13T17:28:31Z] <illiliti> phoebos: are you here? can you help?
[2022-03-13T18:47:48Z] <phoebos> let me test again
[2022-03-13T18:53:29Z] <phoebos> testuser[m]: just says "Unable to connect"
[2022-03-13T18:54:25Z] <phoebos> can't see anything in the dev tools
[2022-03-13T18:58:13Z] <phoebos> https://tmp.bvnf.space/out.png
[2022-03-13T18:58:28Z] <phoebos> works as expected on glibc
[2022-03-13T18:59:54Z] <illiliti> thanks for the help
[2022-03-13T19:00:05Z] <phoebos> not much help lol
[2022-03-13T19:57:33Z] <aosync> hello guys
[2022-03-13T19:57:38Z] <aosync> phoebos: are you auscyberman ?
[2022-03-13T19:58:14Z] <aosync> has dylan given any updates on the direction ?
[2022-03-13T20:01:25Z] <phoebos> aosync: on shithub i'm aabacchus
[2022-03-13T20:02:07Z] <aosync> by shithub, you mean github right? not actual shithub
[2022-03-13T20:02:13Z] <phoebos> yes
[2022-03-13T20:02:59Z] <aosync> I know someone that used to be active on the unixporn community that was a fan of phoebe bridgers
[2022-03-13T20:37:35Z] <rohan> hey guys
[2022-03-13T20:37:41Z] <rohan> whats new?
[2022-03-13T20:53:37Z] <ax> good evening all 
[2022-03-13T20:53:50Z] <ax> -> Building: explicit: terminus-font, implicit: bdftopcf 
[2022-03-13T20:53:52Z] <ax> ERROR 'bdftopcf' not found
[2022-03-13T20:54:05Z] <ax> kisscommunity repo 
[2022-03-13T20:55:57Z] <rohan> maybe get purged
[2022-03-13T20:59:11Z] <rohan> what i see bdftopcf have xorg dependencies
[2022-03-13T21:00:06Z] <rohan> thats why not more in community
[2022-03-13T21:01:15Z] <ax> i know but it in community repo 
[2022-03-13T21:01:31Z] <ax> for this I have reported 
[2022-03-13T21:02:53Z] <ax> it should probably only be in the kiss-xorg repo
[2022-03-13T21:04:08Z] <phoebos> nice find ax, will have to drop terminus-font from community probably
[2022-03-13T21:05:44Z] <ax> phoebos: imagine, I was annoyed to open a pull request for this type of report ... I preferred to do it directly here 
[2022-03-13T21:06:13Z] <phoebos> dilyn: 
[2022-03-13T21:14:58Z] <phoebos> actually it looks like bdftopcf is only required for X11 fonts
[2022-03-13T21:22:48Z] <phoebos> ax: you could send this patch to aarng (the maintainer of terminus-font): https://tmp.bvnf.space/0001-terminus-font-remove-dep-on-bdftopcf.patch
[2022-03-13T21:23:47Z] <phoebos> kiss main terminus-font
[2022-03-13T22:06:00Z] <phoebos> will kiss-community restart maintaining kiss itself? lot of changes to kiss from what happened with the last fork