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[2021-11-23T05:08:59Z] <testuser[m]> Hi
[2021-11-23T05:15:04Z] <bujeddhazeus> Hey dude, going ok?
[2021-11-23T05:19:22Z] <testuser[m]> Good
[2021-11-23T05:26:08Z] <bujeddhazeus> Good
[2021-11-23T05:26:10Z] <bujeddhazeus> Same
[2021-11-23T05:26:20Z] <bujeddhazeus> I actually helped people today
[2021-11-23T05:27:52Z] <testuser[m]> Where
[2021-11-23T05:29:47Z] <bujeddhazeus> Gentoo
[2021-11-23T05:30:15Z] <bujeddhazeus> Basically their musl firefox has been mia since ~78
[2021-11-23T05:30:30Z] <bujeddhazeus> Because nobody got musl rust going
[2021-11-23T05:30:53Z] <bujeddhazeus> I helped someone test
[2021-11-23T05:31:00Z] <bujeddhazeus> What I did
[2021-11-23T05:31:14Z] <bujeddhazeus> And it worked mostly
[2021-11-23T05:35:58Z] <testuser[m]> Nice
[2021-11-23T05:40:41Z] <bujeddhazeus> Thanks
[2021-11-23T05:40:55Z] <bujeddhazeus> Also yesterday I released my first open source software
[2021-11-23T05:41:03Z] <bujeddhazeus> Well just a shell script
[2021-11-23T05:41:13Z] <bujeddhazeus> But a pretty useful one
[2021-11-23T05:43:24Z] <testuser[m]> Show
[2021-11-23T05:43:50Z] <bujeddhazeus> Well
[2021-11-23T05:44:03Z] <bujeddhazeus> I'm awaiting a request for gentoo to host it
[2021-11-23T05:44:29Z] <testuser[m]> No shithub repo?
[2021-11-23T05:44:41Z] <bujeddhazeus> No I want to give it a better home
[2021-11-23T05:44:48Z] <testuser[m]> Ok
[2021-11-23T05:44:55Z] <bujeddhazeus> I also asked them for feedback
[2021-11-23T05:44:59Z] <bujeddhazeus> Then I will share with the public
[2021-11-23T05:45:13Z] <testuser[m]> What does it do
[2021-11-23T05:45:15Z] <bujeddhazeus> But I have gpl2'd it via email
[2021-11-23T05:45:41Z] <bujeddhazeus> It uses gentoo crossdev to cross-emerge and build minimal livecd
[2021-11-23T05:46:06Z] <testuser[m]> Nice
[2021-11-23T05:46:49Z] <bujeddhazeus> :)
[2021-11-23T05:47:02Z] <bujeddhazeus> ~150-170MB for firefox
[2021-11-23T05:47:43Z] <bujeddhazeus> Well. And sway, zsh, gentoo core with busybox instead of gnu stuff... and kernel
[2021-11-23T11:10:00Z] <testuser[m]> https://ludocode.com/blog/flatpak-is-not-the-future
[2021-11-23T12:14:02Z] <soliwilos> Nice read.
[2021-11-23T13:16:12Z] <soliwilos> Has anyone looked into differences between poppler and mupdf? Which is preferred, if any?
[2021-11-23T13:18:06Z] <testuser[m]> Bru just interpret the bytes yourself
[2021-11-23T13:19:39Z] <soliwilos> Sure, I plan on that. Was just curious on whether there were some opinions on either here.
[2021-11-23T13:19:51Z] <tleydxdy[m]> soliwilos: I think one support more formats
[2021-11-23T13:51:32Z] <dilyn> testuser: yet another reason why snaps are the superior packaging format 
[2021-11-23T13:52:59Z] <testuser[m]> Snaps are almost the same thing with different branding
[2021-11-23T13:54:45Z] <dilyn> nah
[2021-11-23T13:55:01Z] <testuser[m]> os inside os?
[2021-11-23T13:57:04Z] <dilyn> kind of 
[2021-11-23T13:57:35Z] <dilyn> the biggest issue of runtime duplication would just be if snap publishers don't update their snaps to the newest base and stay on the old one 
[2021-11-23T14:23:13Z] <akira01> hey guys
[2021-11-23T14:23:25Z] <akira01> anyone know how to use fstrim from busybox?
[2021-11-23T14:53:07Z] <soliwilos> akira01: I've never used it, but it looks like you just run it with a mountpoint which supports trim/discard.
[2021-11-23T14:53:31Z] <akira01> So i will need to change my fstab
[2021-11-23T14:57:15Z] <soliwilos> If you plan on having it trim regularly you'd probably want to either make a service or use cron.
[2021-11-23T15:23:15Z] <testuser[m]> akira01: fstrim -v /
[2021-11-23T16:12:15Z] <akira01> whats the best way to add a cflag for a package?
[2021-11-23T17:12:25Z] <phoebos> not often a good idea, but you can do CFLAGS="$CFLAGS MYFLAG"
[2021-11-23T18:15:40Z] <akira01> i know it isnt a good idea
[2021-11-23T18:15:50Z] <akira01> but i can make freeglut without it
[2021-11-23T18:16:26Z] <akira01> cant*
[2021-11-23T19:22:54Z] <phoebos> it's ok where necessary
[2021-11-23T22:07:51Z] <dilyn> I stopped being lazy https://git.kisscommunity.org/
[2021-11-23T22:09:10Z] <noocsharp> i shudder to know how many of my packages are outdated
[2021-11-23T22:09:46Z] <noocsharp> i still haven't updated to openssl 3
[2021-11-23T22:10:02Z] <dilyn> lmao 
[2021-11-23T22:15:43Z] <jedavies> dilyn: looks good
[2021-11-23T22:24:09Z] <noocsharp> my compiler can now add numbers
[2021-11-23T22:24:14Z] <noocsharp> so close to replacing c
[2021-11-23T22:24:35Z] <sereg> noocsharp: the fear is real! xD 
[2021-11-23T22:25:46Z] <dilyn> gnu better watch out 
[2021-11-23T22:32:13Z] <bujeddhazeus> gnu better not cry
[2021-11-23T22:33:15Z] <sereg> gnu better not pout
[2021-11-23T22:33:36Z] <bujeddhazeus> noocsharp is tellin' you why
[2021-11-23T22:34:05Z] <bujeddhazeus> gcc is leaving from town
[2021-11-23T23:19:17Z] <bibliocar> The library compatability problem could be easily solved if software specified what versions of the libraries they need, and the os has the ability to have multiple versions of the same library, and not have them conflict...
[2021-11-23T23:19:47Z] <bibliocar> I know, easier said than done, but it works well enough with vscode and arduino.
[2021-11-23T23:20:02Z] <dilyn> that sounds like the wrong solution 
[2021-11-23T23:20:12Z] <dilyn> I mean we already have a solution to the library incompatibility problem... 
[2021-11-23T23:21:53Z] <bibliocar> just include the release number if they're not backwards compatible?