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[2021-08-07T00:00:05Z] <kyxor> systemd
[2021-08-07T00:01:04Z] <micro_O> owncast looks dope
[2021-08-07T00:01:12Z] <micro_O> as a twitch replacement
[2021-08-07T00:02:42Z] <acheam> kyxor: where are you seeing that?
[2021-08-07T00:03:24Z] <kyxor> han they just had some systemd examples there, but I hope it doesn't
[2021-08-07T00:04:38Z] <kyxor> I think you can just use ffmpeg to stream 
[2021-08-07T00:05:21Z] <acheam> hm looks like you can
[2021-08-07T03:37:56Z] <testuser[m]> Hi
[2021-08-07T03:40:14Z] <acheam> Hi
[2021-08-07T04:31:12Z] <rio6> using distcc over ssh is even slower than compiling locally...
[2021-08-07T04:32:32Z] <testuser[m]> Wouldn't it depend on your network speed
[2021-08-07T04:32:42Z] <testuser[m]> Or local network ssh ?
[2021-08-07T04:33:06Z] <rio6> it's on the other side of the contenent
[2021-08-07T04:33:26Z] <testuser[m]> Bruh
[2021-08-07T04:33:35Z] <testuser[m]> What are you building ?
[2021-08-07T04:33:44Z] <rio6> just trying things :P
[2021-08-07T04:33:47Z] <testuser[m]> For smaller stuff i guess it would be slower than compiling locally
[2021-08-07T04:35:18Z] <rio6> building the kernel with -j192 (number of cores combined * 2), the text doesn't feel like it's scrolling faster
[2021-08-07T04:35:59Z] <rio6> anyways, just trying stiff :P
[2021-08-07T04:46:22Z] <kqz> i imagine you'll probably start to get throttled by stdout
[2021-08-07T04:47:33Z] <rio6> the make output is nowhere near throttling speed (if that's the stdout you're talking about), that's why I say it feels slower :P
[2021-08-07T07:02:13Z] <sad_plan> when building something static, and it complains about undefined symbol, in a static lib
[2021-08-07T07:02:19Z] <sad_plan> do I have to merge symbols?
[2021-08-07T07:03:07Z] <testuser[m]> depends on where those symbols belong to
[2021-08-07T07:03:31Z] <testuser[m]> what does it complain about
[2021-08-07T07:03:44Z] <sad_plan> im trying to build st statically, and itll firstly complain about missing libX11 and libXft, both exist, but did not have static libs. so I included those
[2021-08-07T07:03:47Z] <sad_plan> ill give you the log
[2021-08-07T07:04:35Z] <testuser[m]> wdym "included those"
[2021-08-07T07:04:42Z] <sad_plan> built them
[2021-08-07T07:05:16Z] <sad_plan> http://0x0.st/-4D5.bin
[2021-08-07T07:05:59Z] <testuser[m]> do you have static libs for the dependencies of the dependencies of the dependencies
[2021-08-07T07:06:25Z] <testuser[m]> libxcb static  exists ?
[2021-08-07T07:06:49Z] <testuser[m]> and libXrender static
[2021-08-07T07:08:13Z] <sad_plan> no, I dont belive I do. tbh, I havent checked them all, but that something I can do :p 
[2021-08-07T07:41:24Z] <sad_plan> hm, I do belive I got all of them now. but seems to still produce the same error
[2021-08-07T07:41:40Z] <testuser[m]> add lxcb manually to ldflags
[2021-08-07T07:41:44Z] <testuser[m]> -lxcb
[2021-08-07T07:42:00Z] <testuser[m]> /usr/lib/libxcb.a exists ?
[2021-08-07T07:42:27Z] <sad_plan> yep
[2021-08-07T07:43:09Z] <sad_plan> hold on, now it complains about libXft.a missing, ill add that aswell
[2021-08-07T07:44:48Z] <sad_plan> hm, that did not fix it.
[2021-08-07T07:44:57Z] <testuser[m]> lo
[2021-08-07T07:44:58Z] <testuser[m]> g
[2021-08-07T07:46:27Z] <sad_plan> http://0x0.st/-4DC.bin
[2021-08-07T07:46:37Z] <sad_plan> seems I need to specify alot of them. 
[2021-08-07T07:46:56Z] <sad_plan> adding freetype aswell, and freetype-harfbuzz has alot of libs in its dep list
[2021-08-07T07:46:57Z] <testuser[m]> yeah
[2021-08-07T07:47:35Z] <testuser[m]> `pkg-config --libs fontconfig`
[2021-08-07T07:47:37Z] <testuser[m]> thats why
[2021-08-07T07:47:49Z] <testuser[m]> add --static
[2021-08-07T07:47:57Z] <testuser[m]> to pkgconf calls in makefile
[2021-08-07T07:48:01Z] <testuser[m]> --libs --static
[2021-08-07T07:48:41Z] <sad_plan> aah. ill sed that into the makefile then
[2021-08-07T07:55:32Z] <sad_plan> still complains. i added -lfontconfig aswell into the buildscript 
[2021-08-07T07:55:33Z] <sad_plan> http://0x0.st/-4kr.bin
[2021-08-07T07:56:39Z] <testuser[m]> umm its supposed to be --libs --static now --static ..
[2021-08-07T07:56:41Z] <testuser[m]> not
[2021-08-07T07:56:59Z] <sad_plan> oh
[2021-08-07T07:57:17Z] <testuser[m]> it will add everything -lfontconfig -lfreetype -lbz2 -lz -lpng16 -lm -lm -lz -lexpat
[2021-08-07T07:57:28Z] <sad_plan> nice
[2021-08-07T08:01:29Z] <testuser[m]> worked ?
[2021-08-07T08:02:15Z] <sad_plan> it failed, but I dont belive all the libs for freetype is also static. so just gotta go through them and check, and rebuild those that dont
[2021-08-07T08:47:27Z] <sad_plan> strange. I cant seem to get freetype to have to appropriate symbols.. 
[2021-08-07T08:47:50Z] <testuser[m]> libpng static exists ?
[2021-08-07T08:48:30Z] <sad_plan> yes, /usr/lib/libpng.a is there
[2021-08-07T08:49:12Z] <sad_plan> I belive Ive rebuilt everything after building the static libs aswell. I could always doublecheck aswell, to be sure
[2021-08-07T08:49:16Z] <testuser[m]> then whats it missing
[2021-08-07T08:49:32Z] <sad_plan> i have no clue. heres the log anyway http://0x0.st/-4kZ.bin
[2021-08-07T08:51:09Z] <testuser[m]> Lol
[2021-08-07T08:51:12Z] <testuser[m]> its missing its own symbols
[2021-08-07T08:52:04Z] <sad_plan> lol what?
[2021-08-07T08:52:18Z] <testuser[m]> see the freetype-harfbuzz package build script
[2021-08-07T08:52:21Z] <testuser[m]> its bad
[2021-08-07T08:52:51Z] <testuser[m]> try enabling static libs in both build_freetpye and build_harfbuzz
[2021-08-07T08:53:07Z] <testuser[m]> force remove freetype-harfbuzz before building
[2021-08-07T08:54:42Z] <sad_plan> libfreetyoe.a and libharfbuzz.a exist, but sure, ill remove it, and rebuild it agian
[2021-08-07T08:56:10Z] <testuser[m]> https://github.com/dilyn-corner/KISS-static/blob/main/extra/freetype/build i guess dilyn had some issues, harfbuzz is just gone lol
[2021-08-07T08:58:36Z] <sad_plan> lol. rebuilding it from fresh sources didnt really change anything. but perhaps Ill try to get rid of harfbuzz aswell
[2021-08-07T08:58:56Z] <testuser[m]> Getting rid of harfbuzz wont work if something needs it
[2021-08-07T08:59:02Z] <sad_plan> true
[2021-08-07T09:40:31Z] <sad_plan> would it make any differnce if one used a different buildsystem though? seeing as freetype supports both cmake, and meson. + the configure script obviously
[2021-08-07T09:40:48Z] <sad_plan> I noticed dilyn switched between them.
[2021-08-07T10:07:48Z] <sad_plan> aw, wtf, now freetype-harfbuzz suddenly has a circular dependency on itself. ffs...
[2021-08-07T10:10:20Z] <testuser[m]> thats why i said force remove
[2021-08-07T10:10:52Z] <sad_plan> well, I could easily remove it earlier, but now I suddenly cant.. in any case, just remove the files, then I suppose?
[2021-08-07T10:11:22Z] <testuser[m]> KISS_FORCE=1 kiss r
[2021-08-07T10:11:24Z] <testuser[m]> ?
[2021-08-07T10:11:42Z] <sad_plan> its on, but didnt work
[2021-08-07T10:12:11Z] <testuser[m]> oh so kiss just bails out saying there s a circular dep
[2021-08-07T10:12:24Z] <testuser[m]> just rm /var/db/kiss/installed/freetype-harfbuzz/depends
[2021-08-07T10:13:21Z] <sad_plan> yes
[2021-08-07T10:13:54Z] <sad_plan> now its gone again
[2021-08-07T11:29:25Z] <sad_plan> alright, finally moving forward. dilyn had it right in his buildscript. no longer nags about libfreetype.a
[2021-08-07T11:29:46Z] <sad_plan> instead its erroring out on libxcb again :')
[2021-08-07T13:26:20Z] <acheam> should KISS_FORCE ignore circular deps?
[2021-08-07T13:28:44Z] <sad_plan> ^no, I dont think it should. the whole point is to force remove packages
[2021-08-07T13:30:56Z] <sad_plan> it could perhaps warn about it though. like fyi, its a circular dep
[2021-08-07T13:32:04Z] <testuser[m]> it should skip all but necessary checks to prevent the system from exploding, since it's name is KISS_FORCE :p
[2021-08-07T13:32:48Z] <sad_plan> or that :p
[2021-08-07T14:37:15Z] <cjw95> Hi guys, I'm having some trouble after moving to wayland
[2021-08-07T14:37:43Z] <cjw95> When trying to launch sway i get  [wlr] [libseat] [libseat/backend/seatd.c:78] Could not connect to socket /run/seatd.sock: No such file or directory
[2021-08-07T14:37:58Z] <cjw95> Has anyone else had this?
[2021-08-07T14:38:33Z] <testuser[m]> ln -s /etc/sv/seatd /var/service/
[2021-08-07T14:38:35Z] <testuser[m]> enable the service
[2021-08-07T14:38:43Z] <cjw95> durrr
[2021-08-07T15:35:33Z] <cjw95> While I'm here, I was also having trouble with the wyverkiss install. `tar xvf "$OLDPWD/$file"` would fail at ./etc/ssl/misc/tsget.pl 
[2021-08-07T15:35:58Z] <cjw95> error message: tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[2021-08-07T15:36:00Z] <cjw95> tar xvf "$OLDPWD/$file"  9.23s user 2.00s system 118% cpu 9.514 total
[2021-08-07T17:11:07Z] <Guest92> Hello someone can help?My pc(BIOS) dont boot grub, its make a reboot loop
[2021-08-07T17:12:55Z] <testuser[m]> Does it try to load the kernel or what
[2021-08-07T17:13:01Z] <testuser[m]> When does it start rebooting
[2021-08-07T17:14:04Z] <Guest92> Only the BIOS appears and reboots
[2021-08-07T23:09:25Z] <duplex> hi I'm fairly new to the kiss pm. I'm trying to make a package that's just a bash script that needs to be able to be moved to /bin. when setting up the build file do I need to extract the archive? should I just cp it to /bin or is there a better way? also how to I handle uninstalls?
[2021-08-07T23:26:33Z] <soliwilos> duplex: kiss will handle the unpacking, and you can use cp in the build file, kiss itself handles uninstalls as well.
[2021-08-07T23:31:00Z] <duplex> soliwilos: will it remove the file from /bin automatically?
[2021-08-07T23:31:37Z] <duplex> also is there a way to gen checksums without kiss (i.e. who checksum algo does kiss use)
[2021-08-07T23:31:41Z] <duplex> *what
[2021-08-07T23:34:04Z] <soliwilos> duplex: Yes, if you run "kiss r myscript-package" the script from /bin will be removed.
[2021-08-07T23:36:01Z] <soliwilos> It uses sha256 checksums.
[2021-08-07T23:37:18Z] <GalaxyNova> dublex: "kiss c" generates checksums
[2021-08-07T23:37:55Z] <soliwilos> As far as I know, kiss just uses whatever sha256 utility it finds to be available.
[2021-08-07T23:43:06Z] <soliwilos> I think some here have changed it to use blake3.