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[2021-06-21T00:01:18Z] <acheam> uhh some weird stuff happening
[2021-06-21T00:01:33Z] <acheam> on bootup, am logged automatically into a root console, but its not a tty
[2021-06-21T00:02:00Z] <acheam> not sure what I changed
[2021-06-21T00:02:22Z] <acheam> The reboot, power off, etc commands aren't working
[2021-06-21T00:02:54Z] <acheam> can't switch ttys with ctrl alt number
[2021-06-21T00:04:24Z] <acheam> oh I'm an idiot the boot log explains everything
[2021-06-21T00:04:27Z] <acheam> never mind me
[2021-06-21T02:45:05Z] <testuser[m]1> Hi
[2021-06-21T02:47:19Z] <testuser[m]1> micr0 hmm that's weird, are you using the exact same build file as in my repo ? 
[2021-06-21T03:20:56Z] <kiedtl> \/26
[2021-06-21T03:20:59Z] <kiedtl> oops
[2021-06-21T04:02:28Z] <acheam> irclogs.armaanb.net now has the freenode logs
[2021-06-21T04:02:46Z] <acheam> not sure how helpful it will be given you have to access it by date though lol
[2021-06-21T05:02:15Z] <Sweets> hmm
[2021-06-21T05:07:35Z] <Sweets> .
[2021-06-21T05:07:42Z] <acheam> ?
[2021-06-21T05:07:59Z] <Sweets> for some reason I can't identify my nickname
[2021-06-21T05:08:06Z] <Sweets> but I'm guessing it's fine?
[2021-06-21T05:14:48Z] <konimex> according to an announcement services is under maintenance so there's that
[2021-06-21T07:54:33Z] <kimerus> Hi guys
[2021-06-21T07:54:39Z] <kimerus> How can i disable ttys?
[2021-06-21T07:57:10Z] <testuser[m]1> Comment them out in the init scripts
[2021-06-21T07:57:16Z] <testuser[m]1> Why do you want to
[2021-06-21T14:47:05Z] <kimerus> testuser[m]1: i have one 2 ttys and don't use one
[2021-06-21T14:47:38Z] <kimerus> This is why
[2021-06-21T14:48:06Z] <kimerus> And don't know more what is given me the 20mb ram
[2021-06-21T14:51:05Z] <kimerus> So if i can disable something to get less ram, i will disable
[2021-06-21T14:52:51Z] <testuser[m]1> Lol i don't think disabling 1 tty is gonna do anything
[2021-06-21T15:00:24Z] <omanom> have you tried to check what is using your RAM?  maybe then you can narrow down what has changed
[2021-06-21T16:00:06Z] <kimerus> omanom: i checked in htop
[2021-06-21T16:00:13Z] <kimerus> But nothing anormal
[2021-06-21T16:01:24Z] <kimerus> In init runsvdir -P with mdev and eiwd
[2021-06-21T16:01:43Z] <kimerus> bin/sh -- /usr/bin/sx
[2021-06-21T16:01:49Z] <kimerus> sowm
[2021-06-21T16:02:08Z] <kimerus> And /bin/getttt 38400 tty2
[2021-06-21T16:02:26Z] <kimerus> And all xorg stuff
[2021-06-21T16:03:59Z] <kimerus> Seems normal to me
[2021-06-21T16:04:19Z] <omanom> none of them are using an extra 20MB more?
[2021-06-21T16:11:52Z] <kimerus> None
[2021-06-21T16:12:07Z] <kimerus> I think exactly is libudev-zero or udev shit
[2021-06-21T16:12:14Z] <kimerus> Something funny i see now
[2021-06-21T16:12:54Z] <kimerus> When i use mdev with libudev-zero it had no difference compared when i use udev 
[2021-06-21T16:13:42Z] <kimerus> So why is this happen, i don't fucking know
[2021-06-21T16:13:55Z] <kimerus> And the replacing udev article changes nothing
[2021-06-21T16:21:40Z] <omanom> what made you notice the difference?
[2021-06-21T16:33:58Z] <kimerus> So
[2021-06-21T16:34:05Z] <kimerus> Last days i update my kiss
[2021-06-21T16:34:23Z] <kimerus> The libudev-zero package get update
[2021-06-21T16:34:39Z] <kimerus> When i reboot i see htop to view ram usage
[2021-06-21T16:34:51Z] <kimerus> And i see 20mb extra
[2021-06-21T16:34:54Z] <omanom> that was the only package that got updated?
[2021-06-21T16:35:23Z] <omanom> and you know for sure it was 20MB less prior to updating that package?
[2021-06-21T16:35:53Z] <kimerus> I don't remember well but i think it had 3 packages, one are rustc but i don't finished the build
[2021-06-21T16:35:58Z] <kimerus> But man
[2021-06-21T16:35:59Z] <omanom> like maybe you had updated a day or two prior and just hadn't noticed it yet
[2021-06-21T16:36:04Z] <kimerus> I made a reinstall of kiss
[2021-06-21T16:36:11Z] <kimerus> And had the same issue
[2021-06-21T16:36:43Z] <kimerus> I think yeah, for sure is eudev or something
[2021-06-21T16:36:46Z] <omanom> as in you wiped the hdd and reinstalled?
[2021-06-21T16:37:10Z] <kimerus> When i removed it in every kiss install and use libudev-zero i get ~130mb 
[2021-06-21T16:37:19Z] <kimerus> Now i get ~150mb
[2021-06-21T16:37:39Z] <kimerus> Yeah i wiped all ssd
[2021-06-21T16:37:58Z] <omanom> what's your graphical environment?
[2021-06-21T16:38:02Z] <kimerus> Xorg
[2021-06-21T16:38:06Z] <kimerus> Sowm
[2021-06-21T16:38:55Z] <omanom> do you use wifi?
[2021-06-21T16:39:11Z] <kimerus> Yeah eiwd
[2021-06-21T16:39:24Z] <kimerus> But use it for mounths and nothing change
[2021-06-21T16:40:01Z] <omanom> did you compare the RAM usage when no X server is started?
[2021-06-21T16:40:29Z] <kimerus> Not in previous kiss install
[2021-06-21T16:40:41Z] <kimerus> Just compared it with the fresh install i made
[2021-06-21T16:43:37Z] <kimerus> But i don't get any information with that, so yeah pretty fucked
[2021-06-21T16:43:47Z] <kimerus> But the thing is
[2021-06-21T16:44:04Z] <kimerus> Why when i use eudev and when i don't use it
[2021-06-21T16:44:09Z] <kimerus> I had no difference?
[2021-06-21T16:46:00Z] <omanom> kind of makes me think it isn't libudev-zero, then
[2021-06-21T16:46:22Z] <testuser[m]1> It isn't, he checked the difference in the old and new ver
[2021-06-21T16:46:32Z] <kimerus> What?
[2021-06-21T16:46:41Z] <kimerus> Oh yeah
[2021-06-21T16:46:45Z] <kimerus> Right right
[2021-06-21T16:46:52Z] <kimerus> But i think
[2021-06-21T16:46:54Z] <kimerus> Is eudev
[2021-06-21T16:47:01Z] <kimerus> Or some link problem
[2021-06-21T16:48:17Z] <omanom> did you load a saved kernel config when you compiled it when reinstalling?
[2021-06-21T16:48:44Z] <kimerus> Hm
[2021-06-21T16:49:12Z] <kimerus> Not exactly
[2021-06-21T16:49:32Z] <kimerus> I just cp the saved config to the new kernel
[2021-06-21T16:49:46Z] <omanom> and then ran make?
[2021-06-21T16:49:57Z] <kimerus> Yeah
[2021-06-21T16:50:04Z] <kimerus> Make menuconfig
[2021-06-21T16:50:14Z] <kimerus> And then i check if is all okay
[2021-06-21T16:50:25Z] <kimerus> And make the kernel
[2021-06-21T16:51:38Z] <omanom> Based on the commit log here: https://github.com/kiss-community/repo/commits/master
[2021-06-21T16:51:57Z] <omanom> there were changes to libudev-zero, rust, mesa, and sqlite
[2021-06-21T16:52:09Z] <omanom> do you use mesa?
[2021-06-21T16:52:18Z] <kimerus> Yeah
[2021-06-21T16:52:33Z] <kimerus> I did the update in 18 june
[2021-06-21T16:52:54Z] <omanom> did you have the extra ram usage prior to that update?
[2021-06-21T16:53:20Z] <omanom> because of the packages listed, mesa would be the first one i'd suspect
[2021-06-21T16:53:27Z] <kimerus> Noup
[2021-06-21T16:53:33Z] <kimerus> I had not extra ram prior
[2021-06-21T16:53:39Z] <kimerus> Just post update
[2021-06-21T16:54:10Z] <kimerus> Yeah maybe mesa
[2021-06-21T16:54:34Z] <kimerus> But so why i had no difference between eudev and libudev-zero
[2021-06-21T16:54:59Z] <omanom> well, why /would/ there be a difference?  
[2021-06-21T16:55:05Z] <kimerus> Is like i said everytime when i made this change i see a ram difference
[2021-06-21T16:55:43Z] <kimerus> Because why eudev and mdev will be no difference in usage?
[2021-06-21T16:56:54Z] <omanom> again, why /would/ there be a difference?
[2021-06-21T17:00:22Z] <omanom> perhaps i am a little confused with what you're reporting.  based on your statements, you saw no difference between eudev and libudev-zero and mdev?  so what makes you suspect something in there being at fault?
[2021-06-21T17:00:59Z] <kimerus> Because when i use libudev-zero with mdev
[2021-06-21T17:01:06Z] <kimerus> I noticed everytime
[2021-06-21T17:01:12Z] <kimerus> A differecen in ram
[2021-06-21T17:01:23Z] <kimerus> Compared when i use just eudev
[2021-06-21T17:02:10Z] <kimerus> I made install of kiss for more than just one time and everytime i see the same
[2021-06-21T17:02:36Z] <kimerus> And why will not be ram difference between udev and mdev with libudev-zero
[2021-06-21T17:02:50Z] <omanom> there shouldn't be a 20MB difference in RAM usage between those
[2021-06-21T17:03:07Z] <testuser[m]1> Yeah the  device manager won't even take near 20mb ram total
[2021-06-21T17:03:36Z] <omanom> can you try an older mesa version to see if you still have that usage
[2021-06-21T17:03:41Z] <omanom> just to rule that out
[2021-06-21T17:04:02Z] <kimerus> Yeah 20mb maybe is big but what is the ideal?
[2021-06-21T17:04:14Z] <kimerus> Because when i try is like 0 ram difference
[2021-06-21T17:05:10Z] <omanom> i wouldn't expect more than a few MB.  Say... 5.  
[2021-06-21T17:05:44Z] <kimerus> Yeah
[2021-06-21T17:05:56Z] <kimerus> So i just drop it
[2021-06-21T17:06:02Z] <kimerus> If its mesa
[2021-06-21T17:06:14Z] <kimerus> I will be with mesa update
[2021-06-21T17:06:32Z] <kimerus> And you gays said is not libudev-zero or eudev
[2021-06-21T17:06:46Z] <kimerus> So its closed
[2021-06-21T17:07:08Z] <omanom> we didn't say it /wasn't/, we were trying to narrow it down and understand why you thought it /was/
[2021-06-21T17:08:02Z] <kimerus> What are the older version of mesa?
[2021-06-21T17:08:36Z] <omanom> 21.1.2 was the previous one
[2021-06-21T17:08:42Z] <kimerus> Okay
[2021-06-21T17:08:45Z] <kimerus> I will check
[2021-06-21T17:08:46Z] <omanom> https://github.com/mesa3d/mesa/releases/tag/mesa-21.1.2
[2021-06-21T17:11:38Z] <testuser[m]1> omanom are you working on the actual piss project
[2021-06-21T17:12:49Z] <omanom> i was playing around with it, just to do it
[2021-06-21T17:13:01Z] <omanom> not as a formal project/effort though
[2021-06-21T17:30:43Z] <omanom> testuser[m]1 here's what i have so far: https://0x0.st/-LgD.py
[2021-06-21T17:31:00Z] <testuser[m]1> Lol not that
[2021-06-21T17:31:11Z] <testuser[m]1> You did the kiss search thingy right
[2021-06-21T17:31:14Z] <testuser[m]1> Or was it this one only
[2021-06-21T17:31:27Z] <omanom> yeah, i got search and list done
[2021-06-21T17:31:53Z] <omanom> i wanted to reorganize stuff though.  originally i was doing almost a line-by-line port, i'd like to attack it from a different angle
[2021-06-21T17:33:15Z] <omanom> everything (so far) has been implementable through standard libs, but the time it takes to import them just kills performance compared to the normal shell script
[2021-06-21T17:35:36Z] <testuser[m]1> Just `import asyncio` to go big fast, compensate for slow imports
[2021-06-21T17:37:31Z] <omanom> there's not really anything to make asynchronous though, "unfortunately"
[2021-06-21T17:37:43Z] <testuser[m]1> Joke
[2021-06-21T17:37:54Z] <omanom> lmao whoosh, sorry
[2021-06-21T17:47:58Z] <kimerus> Compiled mesa 21.1.2
[2021-06-21T17:48:01Z] <kimerus> No difference
[2021-06-21T17:48:59Z] <omanom> darn :( thank you for trying
[2021-06-21T17:59:00Z] <acheam> any eiwd users here? the package in community and midfavila's repo doesnt install iwctl, so how am I supposed to control it?
[2021-06-21T18:03:47Z] <kimerus> See eiwd article
[2021-06-21T18:03:52Z] <kimerus> In k1sslinux.org
[2021-06-21T18:04:04Z] <kimerus> Easy do connect wifi
[2021-06-21T18:14:12Z] <claudia> acheam, It just works.
[2021-06-21T18:14:22Z] <acheam> not for me :(
[2021-06-21T18:14:22Z] <claudia> you can start and stop the eiwd service.
[2021-06-21T18:14:33Z] <acheam> I am running the service, but its still disconnected
[2021-06-21T18:16:20Z] <claudia> Yeah, on my end I have to fiddle with the network name because my ssid contains spaces -.-
[2021-06-21T18:16:24Z] <acheam> https://envs.sh/9M.jpg 
[2021-06-21T18:16:43Z] <acheam> mine is pretty straight forward, no spaces, standard wpa
[2021-06-21T18:17:07Z] <testuser[m]1> How big is that image
[2021-06-21T18:17:09Z] <claudia> have you tried the service?
[2021-06-21T18:19:15Z] <acheam> testuser[m]1: 11mb my phone makes massive images and videos
[2021-06-21T18:19:26Z] <acheam> blame the lineageos devs for that
[2021-06-21T18:19:36Z] <testuser[m]1> Lol it's still only half loaded
[2021-06-21T18:19:45Z] <acheam> claudia: yes but not thoroughly
[2021-06-21T18:19:47Z] <acheam> lol
[2021-06-21T18:20:39Z] <omanom> https://github.com/GunnarMonell/fbgrab
[2021-06-21T18:21:12Z] <omanom> there's a way to go directly through imagemagick's convert tool but i don't remember it
[2021-06-21T18:21:33Z] <omanom> hm but then you wouldn't be able to share it, since you don't have wifi lol never mind
[2021-06-21T18:21:48Z] <acheam> lol yes I know how to take a screenshot
[2021-06-21T18:21:50Z] <acheam> I use maim
[2021-06-21T18:22:18Z] <acheam> but I dont want to start up WPA supplicant and dhcpcd just for a picture
[2021-06-21T18:22:27Z] <acheam> no luck with the service
[2021-06-21T18:22:32Z] <acheam> network unreachable still
[2021-06-21T18:22:45Z] <acheam> and I dont know where to find relevant logs, etc
[2021-06-21T18:22:50Z] <omanom> do you have openresolv installed as well?
[2021-06-21T18:23:11Z] <omanom> also double-check the date and time are correct, i had that issue once
[2021-06-21T18:24:28Z] <acheam> yes and yes
[2021-06-21T18:29:06Z] <omanom> all the service script does is `exec iwd -d`, you could try running that to see if its picking up your configuration
[2021-06-21T18:31:31Z] <omanom> well in your case itd be `doas iwd -d`
[2021-06-21T18:31:50Z] <acheam> trying that now
[2021-06-21T18:31:59Z] <acheam> hmm looks like it does factually connect
[2021-06-21T18:32:30Z] <acheam> it says "old stste: connexting, new state: connected"
[2021-06-21T18:32:58Z] <acheam> so maybe openresolv is the issue
[2021-06-21T18:33:14Z] <acheam> dhcpcd says no valid interfaces found
[2021-06-21T18:34:09Z] <acheam> resolvconf -l wlan0 returns
[2021-06-21T18:35:42Z] <omanom> what does `ip a` say your wireless interface name is?
[2021-06-21T18:35:52Z] <acheam> wlan0
[2021-06-21T18:36:00Z] <omanom> ok, just wanted to confirm
[2021-06-21T18:36:41Z] <acheam> resolvconf -l wlan0 returns no resolv.conf for interface wlan0
[2021-06-21T18:37:08Z] <omanom> you could try the same thing with dhcpcd -- run `doas dhcpcd wlan0`
[2021-06-21T18:37:50Z] <acheam> dhcpcd runs, but doesn't generate a resolv.conf, and network is still unreachable
[2021-06-21T18:38:15Z] <acheam> there is a blank etc/resolv.conf created by resolvconf/open resolve
[2021-06-21T18:38:25Z] <omanom> so you tried `doas resolvconf -u`
[2021-06-21T18:38:51Z] <testuser[m]1> Does iwd need resolvconf ?
[2021-06-21T18:39:49Z] <omanom> it uses openresolv
[2021-06-21T18:40:00Z] <testuser[m]1> Oh
[2021-06-21T18:40:01Z] <acheam> afaict for most use cases on KISS, yes
[2021-06-21T18:40:10Z] <acheam> but its not a hard dependency
[2021-06-21T18:41:37Z] <acheam> argh
[2021-06-21T18:43:18Z] <acheam> hmm manually creating resolv.conf doesnt help eithet
[2021-06-21T18:44:34Z] <acheam> all online documentation just says to use iwctl...
[2021-06-21T18:45:06Z] <omanom> does dhcpcd have any output when run manually
[2021-06-21T18:46:25Z] <acheam> sending commands to dhcpcd
[2021-06-21T18:46:29Z] <acheam> or smthng like that
[2021-06-21T18:46:44Z] <ang> unrelated: isn't eiwd kinda lacking behind iwd, considering dylans status?
[2021-06-21T18:47:04Z] <acheam> illiliti has a fork
[2021-06-21T18:47:22Z] <ang> ah nice, I will probably switch then
[2021-06-21T18:47:50Z] <ang> went with wpa_supplicant because I thought eiwd is rip
[2021-06-21T18:49:24Z] <acheam> I'd use WPA supplicant but I eventually need more than just wpa
[2021-06-21T19:49:49Z] <E5ten[m]> I'm sure this has already come up here since it seems his first contribution since the gap was over a week ago, but TIL dylan's back on github lol
[2021-06-21T19:52:43Z] <midfavila> acheam iwctl requires dbus
[2021-06-21T19:52:49Z] <midfavila> you have to write configuration files
[2021-06-21T19:53:00Z] <midfavila> iwd will automatically connect to an appropriate access point
[2021-06-21T19:53:09Z] <midfavila> i recommend using iw
[2021-06-21T19:53:24Z] <midfavila> it provides dbus-less network scanning and other useful wireless controls.
[2021-06-21T19:53:37Z] <acheam> Thanks
[2021-06-21T19:53:57Z] <midfavila> man iwd.config 
[2021-06-21T19:54:01Z] <midfavila> in section five i believe
[2021-06-21T19:54:06Z] <midfavila> it allows you to set dns there
[2021-06-21T19:54:10Z] <midfavila> but resolv.conf should also work
[2021-06-21T19:54:31Z] <midfavila> i don't bother with DHCPCD because DHCP is an abomination, so you're on your own there.
[2021-06-21T20:00:03Z] <omanom> E5ten[m] yeah consensus here was we'll leave him be, and let him decide if he wants to drop back in or not
[2021-06-21T21:21:27Z] <kimerus> Guys
[2021-06-21T21:21:43Z] <kimerus> Just fucking weird stuff happens
[2021-06-21T21:21:48Z] <kimerus> Probably is mesa
[2021-06-21T21:22:13Z] <kimerus> I just boot my kiss a few minutes ago and is okay again
[2021-06-21T21:22:38Z] <kimerus> Strange because i did the reboot when i compiled the previous mesa package