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2021-04-24T01:16:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...huh, Google Groups still uses their OG logo 2021-04-24T01:16:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> https://groups.google.com/forum/google.png 2021-04-24T01:25:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> any of you wanting to tinker with old or low-level X stuff might find this useful 2021-04-24T01:25:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> http://lesstif.sourceforge.net/doc/super-ux/g1ae03e/part1/contents.html 2021-04-24T01:26:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> NEC docs detailing working with Xt and Xaw 2021-04-24T01:28:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> looks like there are accompanying docs for internal X stuff, too. 2021-04-24T01:28:07 #kisslinux * midfavila whistles 2021-04-24T01:34:19 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I'm surprised Google hasn't shut down Groups yet. 2021-04-24T01:36:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> I honestly wish that they would 2021-04-24T01:36:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> There are so many spammers on USENET because of Groups 2021-04-24T01:38:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> man, you know that docs are old when they call DES secure... 2021-04-24T03:05:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> testuser_: chromium seems to work fine 2021-04-24T04:10:53 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Hi 2021-04-24T04:10:53 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Nice 2021-04-24T08:14:24 #kisslinux <thermatix> o/ 2021-04-24T08:14:29 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Hi 2021-04-24T08:14:41 #kisslinux <thermatix> so, there's no `/var/log/boot.log` file 2021-04-24T08:15:02 #kisslinux <thermatix> so I have no idea why it just stops when it tries to "load linux" 2021-04-24T08:15:12 #kisslinux <thermatix> how do I ensure a boot.log file? 2021-04-24T08:23:30 #kisslinux <thermatix> do I have to manually install syslog? 2021-04-24T08:39:23 #kisslinux <thermatix> no I don't, how do I ensure syslog is doing it's thing during bootup? 2021-04-24T09:05:09 #kisslinux <thermatix> ok, I think I've enabled debuging messages in the kernel so hopefully I should see more information 2021-04-24T09:14:23 #kisslinux <thermatix> Nothing is showing... bah I have to go out any way 2021-04-24T09:14:28 #kisslinux <thermatix> I'll come back later 2021-04-24T13:57:50 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/commit/79e8df83dd3ff34c5d527c6320940292289af570 2021-04-24T13:58:04 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> finally 2021-04-24T13:58:57 #kisslinux <acheam> woohoo! 2021-04-24T14:04:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> f i n a l l y 2021-04-24T16:42:02 #kisslinux <thermatix> back 2021-04-24T17:17:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> Wooooooo, now we only need one garbage toolkit to build our garbage browser! 2021-04-24T17:17:57 #kisslinux * midfavila blows on a vuvuzela 2021-04-24T17:23:37 #kisslinux <thermatix> ? 2021-04-24T17:24:05 #kisslinux <kiedtl> thermatix: firefox now only depends on gtk+3, and not on gtk+2 2021-04-24T17:24:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> GTK3 is awful, as is firefucks. simple as. 2021-04-24T17:24:18 #kisslinux <thermatix> oh 2021-04-24T17:24:23 #kisslinux <thermatix> k 2021-04-24T17:26:15 #kisslinux <thermatix> how do I figure out why kiss get's stuck on loading linux? 2021-04-24T17:26:21 #kisslinux <thermatix> there's no boot logs 2021-04-24T17:26:22 #kisslinux <thermatix> like 2021-04-24T17:26:23 #kisslinux <thermatix> at all 2021-04-24T17:26:43 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Does KISS get stuck on "loading linux" or the bootloader get stuck on loading KISS ? 2021-04-24T17:27:32 #kisslinux <thermatix> I see 2021-04-24T17:27:45 #kisslinux <thermatix> "Loading linux <kernel version>" 2021-04-24T17:27:51 #kisslinux <thermatix> and that's it 2021-04-24T17:28:09 #kisslinux <thermatix> also I dropped a small networking switch on my foot earlier 2021-04-24T17:28:13 #kisslinux <thermatix> it still hurts :( 2021-04-24T17:28:27 #kisslinux <thermatix> but yeah, just that 2021-04-24T17:28:33 #kisslinux <thermatix> want to see a pic of the message? 2021-04-24T17:28:48 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Well that's an issue with the bootloader 2021-04-24T17:28:57 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Did you pass root= as a parameter 2021-04-24T17:29:16 #kisslinux <thermatix> ? 2021-04-24T17:29:34 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> root=/dev/something is a kernel parameter 2021-04-24T17:29:49 #kisslinux <thermatix> I don't know 2021-04-24T17:30:00 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> It probably gets stuck cuz you haven't told the kernel where your root is 2021-04-24T17:30:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> thermatix: you'd have to figure out if it's actually hanging or just not displaying antyhing 2021-04-24T17:30:20 #kisslinux <dilyn> if the kernel didnt' know where ROOTFS was it would display an error like 'cannot sync bla bla bla' 2021-04-24T17:30:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> if root wasn't specified the kernel would panic 2021-04-24T17:30:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> meaning there must have been an issue loading the kernel 2021-04-24T17:30:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> first off, what bootloader are you using 2021-04-24T17:30:46 #kisslinux <thermatix> grub 2021-04-24T17:30:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> that explains it. 2021-04-24T17:30:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> hng 2021-04-24T17:31:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> my solution to anyone who uses grub is 2021-04-24T17:31:00 #kisslinux <thermatix> I didn't have to do this on the VM 2021-04-24T17:31:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> "don't" 2021-04-24T17:31:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> KISS is now efistub only distro 2021-04-24T17:31:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> use literally anything aside from grub. 2021-04-24T17:31:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's absolute trash. 2021-04-24T17:31:32 #kisslinux <thermatix> even though kiss install says to use grub? 2021-04-24T17:31:35 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol 2021-04-24T17:31:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> abs(trash) if you will 2021-04-24T17:31:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> and who gives a shit what the install says lmfao 2021-04-24T17:31:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> you can use whatever you want 2021-04-24T17:31:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> bootloader's a bootloader's a bootloader. 2021-04-24T17:32:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> we need to know a few things. is it BIOS or UEFI, what graphics card you have and how you've configured its drivers etc with the kernel, the kernel commandline, how you installed grub 2021-04-24T17:32:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> and your partition layout a la lsblk 2021-04-24T17:33:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> graphics cards are a pain. 2021-04-24T17:33:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've never been able to load firmware from the filesystem on KISS. 2021-04-24T17:33:18 #kisslinux <thermatix> my laptop has a ryzen 7 4700u so no seperate GPU 2021-04-24T17:33:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> okay, but you still need the chipset firmware 2021-04-24T17:33:34 #kisslinux <thermatix> got that 2021-04-24T17:33:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> try compiling it and the GPU driver into your kernel. 2021-04-24T17:36:02 #kisslinux <thermatix> if I compile the kernel with `CONFIG_EFI_STUB=y` do I only need to follow the efibootmgr bit on -> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/EFISTUB 2021-04-24T17:36:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> no idea. I don't touch that stuff 2021-04-24T17:36:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> dilyn, tag, you're in 2021-04-24T17:37:43 #kisslinux <thermatix> and then I can get rid of grub? 2021-04-24T17:38:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> well, you're replacing it with another bootloader, so yeah 2021-04-24T17:39:27 #kisslinux <thermatix> ah, already compiled it with EFI_STUB 2021-04-24T17:42:01 #kisslinux <kiedtl> / 2021-04-24T17:42:03 #kisslinux <kiedtl> fuck 2021-04-24T17:42:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> 2021-04-24T17:42:28 #kisslinux <midfavila> there, balance has been restored 2021-04-24T17:42:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> namaste 2021-04-24T17:43:02 #kisslinux <thermatix> lol 2021-04-24T17:43:06 #kisslinux <thermatix> also I don't think the root thing is the problem 2021-04-24T17:43:20 #kisslinux <thermatix> grub is correctly setting the root to the correct /dev 2021-04-24T17:43:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> hence the suggestion to compile drivers and firmware into the kernel. 2021-04-24T17:44:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> ^ personally I just think its a graphics issue 2021-04-24T17:45:35 #kisslinux <dilyn> but if you are using efi, grub just uses efibootmgr anyways. the only good reason to use grub is 1) you are proficient with it, or 2) you need it for something like windows. and even then I don't think it's necessary, if windows boots sanely with UEFI... 2021-04-24T17:46:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> if you want to just use efibootmgr and skip grub, you need efistub enabled in the kernel. then, you just need to make an efivar using efibootmgr so your UEFI firmware can exec it 2021-04-24T17:48:06 #kisslinux <thermatix> like this -> # efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sda -p 1 -L "ArchLinux" -l vmlinuz-linux -u "root=/dev/sda2 rw initrd=/initramfs-linux.img" 2021-04-24T17:48:14 #kisslinux <thermatix> whoops meant to wrap that in ticks 2021-04-24T17:48:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol 2021-04-24T17:48:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> so if you aren't using initramfs don't include the initrd part 2021-04-24T17:49:02 #kisslinux <thermatix> I'm guesting replace`-L "ArchLinux"` with `-L "Kiss"` ? 2021-04-24T17:49:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> and the -l 'path' is relative to your EFI partition, not your rootfs partition. so from that line, I expect vmlinuz-linux to be in /boot 2021-04-24T17:49:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> L can be whatever you want 2021-04-24T17:49:51 #kisslinux <thermatix> so... `-l '/boot/vmlinuz-linux'` ? 2021-04-24T17:50:02 #kisslinux <thermatix> since I mounted my efi partition on `/boot`2021-04-24T17:50:12 #kisslinux <thermatix> s/// 2021-04-24T17:50:12 #kisslinux <movzbl> <thermatix> since I mounted my efi partition on `/boot`2021-04-24T17:50:18 #kisslinux <thermatix> s/\// 2021-04-24T17:50:18 #kisslinux <movzbl> <thermatix> since I mounted my efi partition on `/boot` 2021-04-24T17:50:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> no, it's just -l vmlinuz-linux 2021-04-24T17:50:54 #kisslinux <dilyn> for instance I mount /dev/sda1 to /boot, and /boot looks like /boot/efi/KISS/vmlinuz.efi 2021-04-24T17:51:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> so my -l is efiKISSvmlinuz.efi 2021-04-24T17:51:53 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Dilyn have you tried building clang with LTO 2021-04-24T17:52:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> mmhm 2021-04-24T17:52:25 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> The resultant package on my machine is ~650mb installed.. 2021-04-24T17:52:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> YUPP! 2021-04-24T17:52:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> :3 2021-04-24T17:52:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> `kiss size llvm`: 922MB 2021-04-24T17:52:59 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Hmm 2021-04-24T17:53:11 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Why is it so fat 2021-04-24T17:53:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> because LLVM is one big boi 2021-04-24T17:53:26 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Almost double lol 2021-04-24T17:53:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> wyverkiss' regular LLVM is about the same size as gcc+binutils, so that ones fine 2021-04-24T17:54:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> I have no idea why LTO or PGO'd llvm/clang are *so* much bigger tho. especially since LTO is supposed to slim it down 2021-04-24T17:54:23 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Did you do thin lto or full lto ? 2021-04-24T17:54:29 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> I am using gcc so it's full 2021-04-24T17:55:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> thin 2021-04-24T17:55:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> hm let's try full! 2021-04-24T17:55:59 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Add ffat-lto-objects to that, will probably grow to 2gb 2021-04-24T17:58:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> we actually don't use the f-word any more 2021-04-24T17:58:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> they're instead objects of size 2021-04-24T17:58:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> thicc-lto-objects 2021-04-24T17:59:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> DILYN 2021-04-24T17:59:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> do NOT objectify them! 2021-04-24T18:00:00 #kisslinux <dilyn> i can't help it 2021-04-24T18:00:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> a classic case of internalized linking 2021-04-24T18:00:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> absolutely disgusting 2021-04-24T18:00:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> men only want one thing - tiny optimized statically linked binaries 2021-04-24T18:00:54 #kisslinux <dilyn> and it's fucking disgusting 2021-04-24T18:01:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> exactly right. 2021-04-24T18:02:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's not about whether your disk is large enough to accomodate them 2021-04-24T18:02:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's about whether it's *right* to do so 2021-04-24T18:04:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> also, wow, garlic and soy sauce go fantastically together. made some rice for the first time in ages this morning 2021-04-24T18:04:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> put that little concoction on a salad 2021-04-24T18:04:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's delicious 2021-04-24T18:04:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> salads are lame. 2021-04-24T18:04:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> then again, most "salads" around here are one of two things 2021-04-24T18:05:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> either a) dripping with so much oil and dressing that it completely eliminates any health benefits 2021-04-24T18:05:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> or b) literally just a head of lettuce with some nuts 2021-04-24T18:10:22 #kisslinux <thermatix> do I need to include all the microcode blobs or just the one for my cpu? plus do I need the .bin.asc file? 2021-04-24T18:11:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> GPU, not CPU 2021-04-24T18:11:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> and I don't particularly know. I don't make a habit of using hardware that requires blobs. 2021-04-24T18:13:01 #kisslinux <thermatix> I'm adding them all in 2021-04-24T18:13:14 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> iirc the asc file is just a verification thing 2021-04-24T18:13:22 #kisslinux <thermatix> cool 2021-04-24T18:13:28 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> So you can verify your blob didn't break in download 2021-04-24T18:13:41 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Just cat the asc file and confirm 2021-04-24T18:14:21 #kisslinux <thermatix> there's a PGP sig in the file so yeah you're right 2021-04-24T18:14:39 #kisslinux <thermatix> also, do I also need the non fam specific `microcode_amd.bin` file? 2021-04-24T18:15:37 #kisslinux <thermatix> I'm going to go with yes 2021-04-24T18:15:46 #kisslinux <thermatix> ... no wait 2021-04-24T18:16:27 #kisslinux <thermatix> yeah I think you do 2021-04-24T18:17:42 #kisslinux <dilyn> you only need the one microcode for your CPU family, I don't know about the microcode_amd.bin 2021-04-24T18:17:56 #kisslinux <dilyn> I haven't looked into microcode yet for this new system, not sure if I want to bother tbh 2021-04-24T18:18:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> i don't bother with microcode 2021-04-24T18:18:09 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> It just works 2021-04-24T18:18:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> but muh spectre 2021-04-24T18:18:34 #kisslinux <midfavila> there are mitigations for that in software, if you've really affected by that 2021-04-24T18:18:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> at least, I think there is... 2021-04-24T18:18:39 #kisslinux <dilyn> linking libllvm with full lto takes for bloody ever 2021-04-24T18:18:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> I know some stuff have software mitigations 2021-04-24T18:18:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> 6gb ram usage, still climbing. jeez 2021-04-24T18:18:51 #kisslinux <midfavila> >only 6gb 2021-04-24T18:18:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> try gfortran 2021-04-24T18:19:00 #kisslinux <dilyn> noty 2021-04-24T18:19:56 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> I accidentally built half of chromium with lto and the final link took an hour to fail and took ~25gb of ram peak 2021-04-24T18:19:59 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> (Swap) 2021-04-24T18:20:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> hot diggity good gawd 2021-04-24T18:22:12 #kisslinux <thermatix> lol 2021-04-24T18:22:15 #kisslinux <thermatix> also damn 2021-04-24T18:22:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> gfortran oom'd me with 64gb of usable memory 2021-04-24T18:22:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> goml 2021-04-24T18:23:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> seriously though, I have no idea why it needs that much 2021-04-24T18:23:17 #kisslinux <dilyn> because fortran 5head compiler 2021-04-24T18:23:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> chromium I can *almost* understand 2021-04-24T18:23:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> it actually turned your PC into a zombie it was using to help calculate the fifth ramsey number 2021-04-24T18:23:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> gz gnu played u 2021-04-24T18:23:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> fuck 2021-04-24T18:32:54 #kisslinux <dilyn> full lto llvm is 18MB smaller than thin lto 2021-04-24T18:32:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> #value 2021-04-24T18:37:28 #kisslinux <thermatix> so turns out you don't need the .sbin files in the amd directory 2021-04-24T18:53:11 #kisslinux <thermatix> yay! 2021-04-24T18:53:14 #kisslinux <thermatix> I mean 2021-04-24T18:53:24 #kisslinux <thermatix> it didn't fully boot but it got further so yay? 2021-04-24T18:53:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> further is better 2021-04-24T18:54:27 #kisslinux <acheam> yay 2021-04-24T18:54:37 #kisslinux <thermatix> I forgot to update the fstab file 2021-04-24T18:54:48 #kisslinux <acheam> that'd do it 2021-04-24T18:54:52 #kisslinux <dilyn> it wouldn't 2021-04-24T18:55:01 #kisslinux <thermatix> YAY 2021-04-24T18:55:04 #kisslinux <acheam> oh 2021-04-24T18:55:09 #kisslinux <thermatix> I can do stuff! 2021-04-24T18:55:13 #kisslinux <acheam> am confused 2021-04-24T18:55:16 #kisslinux <dilyn> yay! 2021-04-24T18:55:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> the fstab helps depending on how far he got, i suppose 2021-04-24T18:55:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> if he got to getty then an fstab helps 2021-04-24T18:56:01 #kisslinux <thermatix> I had the boot partition pointing to /boot/efi (where it was on the VM) and forgot to update to where it is on the laptop (/boot) 2021-04-24T18:56:08 #kisslinux <thermatix> but other then that it's doing something 2021-04-24T18:56:14 #kisslinux <thermatix> I mean, I can do stuff 2021-04-24T18:56:18 #kisslinux <thermatix> like log in 2021-04-24T18:56:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> then you're in! 2021-04-24T18:58:18 #kisslinux <thermatix> yeah... how do I do wifi stuff from the commandline? 2021-04-24T18:58:22 #kisslinux <thermatix> and how do I check the wifi worked? 2021-04-24T18:58:31 #kisslinux <thermatix> I mean that I got to the correct blob 2021-04-24T19:00:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> `ip link` would say something more than just lo 2021-04-24T19:01:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> as for setting up wifi, https://k1sslinux.org/wiki/software/wpa_supplicant 2021-04-24T19:01:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> or, `kiss-help wiki/software/wpa_supplicant` 2021-04-24T19:01:47 #kisslinux <nodezsh> hi, so i've just installed kiss and i'm getting an error when compiling which says that i'm missing ncursesw/ncurses.h. i have the ncurses.h file in /usr/include an 2021-04-24T19:01:50 #kisslinux <nodezsh> d i found a thread about it on the subreddit, but i still can't figure it out. mak 2021-04-24T19:01:58 #kisslinux <thermatix> thanks @dilyn 2021-04-24T19:02:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> what are you trying to build nodezsh? 2021-04-24T19:02:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> ofc thermatix. wiki has basically everything you need to get started beyond the install guide 2021-04-24T19:02:32 #kisslinux <nodezsh> oops didn't mean to send it like that 2021-04-24T19:03:21 #kisslinux <nodezsh> i'm trying to build stfl and i'm getting an error related to ncurses 2021-04-24T19:04:06 #kisslinux <thermatix> nodezsh did you try building ncurses via `kiss b`? 2021-04-24T19:04:24 #kisslinux <nodezsh> yes i also tried to rebuild it again 2021-04-24T19:05:07 #kisslinux <thermatix> and then `kiss i` 2021-04-24T19:06:01 #kisslinux <nodezsh> yes i have it installed but when i'm trying to build stfl it says i'm missing ncursesw/ncurses.h 2021-04-24T19:06:06 #kisslinux <thermatix> do I need to the wheel group for the wfii thing? 2021-04-24T19:06:08 #kisslinux <thermatix> hmmmm 2021-04-24T19:07:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> thermatix: per arch wiki: Setting ctrl_interface_group=wheel allows users belonging to such group to execute wpa_cli. 2021-04-24T19:07:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> in your wpa_supplicant.conf file 2021-04-24T19:07:32 #kisslinux <thermatix> so if I use say group wifi it will cause issues with other parts of wpa? 2021-04-24T19:08:20 #kisslinux <dilyn> nodezsh: our ncurses collapses ncursesw files straight into /usr/include with the rest of 'em 2021-04-24T19:09:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> so either patch stfl to look for <ncurses.h> instead, or change the ncurses package to install them to $1/usr/include/ncursesw 2021-04-24T19:09:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> wym? 2021-04-24T19:09:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> you don't need to be in any special group to use wifi, you just need to be in whatever the ctrl_interface_group is set to in order to RUN wpa_cli 2021-04-24T19:10:04 #kisslinux <dilyn> or just be root 2021-04-24T19:10:07 #kisslinux <nodezsh> ok i'll look into it thanks 2021-04-24T19:10:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> I just have wpa_supplicant run at boot from /etc/rc.d, it's the 'simplest' 2021-04-24T19:11:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> i'm off until tomorrow folx. ciao 2021-04-24T19:12:48 #kisslinux <thermatix> bb 2021-04-24T19:19:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> gfdi, today was meant to be a thorough review of K&R 2021-04-24T19:19:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> but instead I've spent my afternoon watching anime 2021-04-24T19:21:09 #kisslinux <thermatix> :p 2021-04-24T19:34:11 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Please register with NickServ if you're unable to talk. 2021-04-24T19:35:09 #kisslinux <thermatix> booop 2021-04-24T19:35:45 #kisslinux <kiedtl> You're good 2021-04-24T19:48:58 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Hm, unidentified users won't be able to join. I thought they would be merely unable to send messages. 2021-04-24T19:49:50 #kisslinux <thermatix> so I have no wlan0 interface 2021-04-24T19:50:08 #kisslinux <thermatix> and I have enabled wireless in the kernel 2021-04-24T19:58:22 #kisslinux <thermatix> welp, see yall tommrow 2021-04-24T22:48:57 #kisslinux <acheam> wow so many matrix bridge users 2021-04-24T22:49:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...oh hey, just experienced my first netsplit 2021-04-24T22:49:33 #kisslinux <acheam> thats impressive lol 2021-04-24T22:49:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> nifterino 2021-04-24T22:49:44 #kisslinux <acheam> theyve been happening so frequently 2021-04-24T22:53:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> >pale moon works on musl mid 2021-04-24T22:53:34 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've been lied to 2021-04-24T22:53:41 #kisslinux <midfavila> bamboozled 2021-04-24T22:53:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> fooled 2021-04-24T22:53:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> deceived.