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2021-04-20T00:10:19 #kisslinux <acheam> hi hellboy2d
2021-04-20T00:10:25 #kisslinux <acheam> I assume you are reffering to https://github.com/kiss-community/repo-community/issues/197
2021-04-20T00:11:17 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Yep
2021-04-20T00:11:43 #kisslinux <acheam> I just offered to take 3 packages :)
2021-04-20T00:12:02 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Good
2021-04-20T00:12:15 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> If i know more about programming i helped too
2021-04-20T00:12:28 #kisslinux <acheam> You don't need to know any programming pretty much
2021-04-20T00:12:34 #kisslinux <acheam> just a little bit of shell
2021-04-20T00:12:34 #kisslinux <necromansy> yeah itsa pre ez shit
2021-04-20T00:12:38 #kisslinux <acheam> you pick it up super quick
2021-04-20T00:12:52 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Oh
2021-04-20T00:12:59 #kisslinux <necromansy> most of it is just building stuff from source
2021-04-20T00:13:05 #kisslinux <necromansy> and the occasional patch
2021-04-20T00:13:46 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Its the patch part
2021-04-20T00:13:51 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> I dont know much
2021-04-20T00:13:56 #kisslinux <necromansy> neither tbh
2021-04-20T00:14:04 #kisslinux <acheam> most packages don't need any packages
2021-04-20T00:14:12 #kisslinux <necromansy> ^
2021-04-20T00:14:16 #kisslinux <acheam> s/packages$/patches/g
2021-04-20T00:14:16 #kisslinux <movzbl> <acheam> most packages don't need any patches
2021-04-20T00:14:22 #kisslinux <acheam> lol
2021-04-20T00:14:27 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> lol
2021-04-20T00:14:28 #kisslinux <necromansy> and the ones that do tend to already have them around coz of void and stuff
2021-04-20T00:14:36 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Yep
2021-04-20T00:14:47 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> I view the webkitgtk patch
2021-04-20T00:14:52 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Alpine had the patch
2021-04-20T00:19:03 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Well someone had issues with surf?
2021-04-20T00:19:16 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> I see a issue and posted about mine
2021-04-20T00:19:28 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> White screen in duckduckgo
2021-04-20T00:22:26 #kisslinux <acheam> wow this is like everything bad about linux in one repo
2021-04-20T00:22:28 #kisslinux <acheam> https://github.com/wojciechkepka/pkger
2021-04-20T00:23:12 #kisslinux <acheam> RPMs, DEBs, Docker, Rust, toml
2021-04-20T00:23:25 #kisslinux <acheam> (yes I know most of those aren't actually bad, and just memes)
2021-04-20T00:34:39 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> lol
2021-04-20T00:35:59 #kisslinux <kiedtl> lol, why can't dilyn use catgirl?
2021-04-20T00:37:46 #kisslinux <acheam> kiedtl: its GPLed
2021-04-20T01:00:11 #kisslinux <kiedtl> oh, and dilyn also has a religious aversion to any license that has a name beginning with a "G"? :P
2021-04-20T01:01:50 #kisslinux <acheam> not necesarily
2021-04-20T01:01:59 #kisslinux <acheam> also those that start with "AG" and "LG"
2021-04-20T01:02:49 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> it's nothin but a g thing
2021-04-20T01:03:22 #kisslinux <kiedtl> GNU*
2021-04-20T01:05:37 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> I'd use catgirl on my laptop!
2021-04-20T01:05:46 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> But this partition has a theme
2021-04-20T01:06:08 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> pkger feels like bad bedrock
2021-04-20T01:06:52 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Ah
2021-04-20T01:56:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> acheam re:bouncers just send them an email
2021-04-20T01:56:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> or is that for boomers
2021-04-20T02:03:50 #kisslinux <acheam> I do often send people emails
2021-04-20T02:04:13 #kisslinux <acheam> but emails are a lot more formal than a quick "hey whats xyz"
2021-04-20T02:04:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> not really
2021-04-20T02:04:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> i send people emails like that all the time
2021-04-20T02:05:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> "hey was looking at function abc in source code for xyz and noticed at this section you used some magic numbers, what for?" or something
2021-04-20T02:12:39 #kisslinux <acheam> hm yeah
2021-04-20T03:09:14 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Hi
2021-04-20T03:23:11 #kisslinux <acheam> hi testuser_[m]
2021-04-20T03:53:52 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> https://lwn.net/Articles/853445/
2021-04-20T04:20:46 #kisslinux <noocsharp> did anyone get the patch that i sent to the community mailing list or did i screw up sending it?
2021-04-20T04:52:04 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> noocsharp: no I got it! I was just watching Buffy :v
2021-04-20T04:53:27 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> why does mozilla keep slowly refactoring their code. they received all the patches to make it work fine. just merge them.
2021-04-20T04:53:42 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> instead they let the bug report fester, when it's one of the only blockers. W H Y
2021-04-20T04:55:57 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Pozilla moment
2021-04-20T04:59:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> pizzaria can go fuck themselves at this point
2021-04-20T04:59:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> they're more concerned with writing extensions to replace bad words than maintaining a decent browser
2021-04-20T05:00:28 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> :'(
2021-04-20T05:04:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> seriously
2021-04-20T05:04:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> mozzarella is dogshit
2021-04-20T05:04:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> like,
2021-04-20T05:04:28 #kisslinux <midfavila> i can't believe how much I hate them at this point
2021-04-20T05:04:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> they're at least as bad as google, for selling out a long long time ago
2021-04-20T05:04:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> fuckers
2021-04-20T05:04:54 #kisslinux <necromansy> its a shame that FF is a decent browser for handling webshit TM
2021-04-20T05:05:11 #kisslinux <necromansy> coz i dont like google nor mozilla
2021-04-20T05:05:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> may I humbly suggest the poz-free nuegia browser
2021-04-20T05:05:52 #kisslinux <necromansy> i know youve shilled it before
2021-04-20T05:05:53 #kisslinux <necromansy> but uh
2021-04-20T05:05:56 #kisslinux <necromansy> what backend is it?
2021-04-20T05:05:58 #kisslinux * midfavila shills harder
2021-04-20T05:05:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> UXP
2021-04-20T05:06:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> aka "forked from mozilla over a decade ago"
2021-04-20T05:06:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> the hyperbola people help with it too
2021-04-20T05:07:23 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> it's the official 'mozilla when they were cool' browsedr
2021-04-20T05:07:25 #kisslinux <necromansy> the builds in your repo?
2021-04-20T05:07:30 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> even tho 10 years ago mozilla was still not-cool
2021-04-20T05:08:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> the build instructions work
2021-04-20T05:08:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> but the package doesn't
2021-04-20T05:08:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> because nuegia's git server is dumb
2021-04-20T05:08:14 #kisslinux <necromansy> lmao
2021-04-20T05:08:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's kind of shit rn ik
2021-04-20T05:08:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> but just like
2021-04-20T05:08:28 #kisslinux <midfavila> copy paste the build script lmao
2021-04-20T05:08:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's Good Enough:tm:
2021-04-20T05:10:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah so it's under ports
2021-04-20T05:10:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> just like
2021-04-20T05:10:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> make sure to install the deps and shit
2021-04-20T05:10:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> obvs
2021-04-20T05:10:29 #kisslinux <necromansy> obvs
2021-04-20T05:10:54 #kisslinux <necromansy> oh dbus
2021-04-20T05:11:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah
2021-04-20T05:11:01 #kisslinux * necromansy recoils
2021-04-20T05:11:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> i know
2021-04-20T05:11:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> cringe
2021-04-20T05:11:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> but it's that or rust
2021-04-20T05:11:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> which do you want to build
2021-04-20T05:11:28 #kisslinux <necromansy> ill keep using FF for now
2021-04-20T05:11:30 #kisslinux * necromansy shrug
2021-04-20T05:11:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> fair
2021-04-20T05:11:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've tried building it without dbus but haven't had luck
2021-04-20T05:13:01 #kisslinux <necromansy> keep me updated, web browsers continue to be super frustrating
2021-04-20T05:13:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> there's no relatively unpozzed browser that actually works for most stuff
2021-04-20T05:13:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> obviously netsurf is incredibly based
2021-04-20T05:13:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> as is Links
2021-04-20T05:13:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> but neither are, uh
2021-04-20T05:13:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> equipped
2021-04-20T05:13:41 #kisslinux <necromansy> modern
2021-04-20T05:13:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> so to say
2021-04-20T05:13:42 #kisslinux <necromansy> yeah
2021-04-20T05:13:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> I was going to be POLITE
2021-04-20T05:13:48 #kisslinux <necromansy> lmao
2021-04-20T05:13:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> for ONCE in my LIFE
2021-04-20T05:13:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> and you RUINED it
2021-04-20T05:14:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> >:CCCCCCC
2021-04-20T05:14:10 #kisslinux <necromansy> o/
2021-04-20T05:14:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> never clone me or my repo ever again
2021-04-20T05:18:49 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> there's no way firefox built that fast...
2021-04-20T05:19:08 #kisslinux <necromansy> something is wrong
2021-04-20T05:19:21 #kisslinux <necromansy> FF didnt build over 12hr
2021-04-20T05:20:59 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> fifteen minutes
2021-04-20T05:21:03 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> damn I fucking love this computer
2021-04-20T05:21:08 #kisslinux <necromansy> i waht
2021-04-20T05:21:09 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> firefox built like a champ, ima send it
2021-04-20T05:21:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> not being a corelet is great
2021-04-20T05:21:13 #kisslinux <necromansy> no way
2021-04-20T05:21:30 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> 15:18.08 Overall system resources - Wall time: 917s; CPU: 0%; Read bytes: 0; Write bytes: 0; Read time: 0; Write time: 0
2021-04-20T05:21:30 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> 15:18.30 Your build was successful!
2021-04-20T05:21:33 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> :v
2021-04-20T05:21:41 #kisslinux <necromansy> bruh thats mental
2021-04-20T05:21:41 #kisslinux <necromansy> nice
2021-04-20T05:23:54 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> yeah
2021-04-20T05:23:55 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> i love this pc
2021-04-20T05:35:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> https://www.youtube.com/embed/aXjIy0XQGi4
2021-04-20T05:35:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> acheam sotd suggestion
2021-04-20T05:41:20 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> Why is that not an invidious link
2021-04-20T05:41:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> because i'm secretly a shill for susan
2021-04-20T05:41:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> no, it's because invidious can't seem to access it
2021-04-20T05:41:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> at least for me
2021-04-20T05:58:27 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> dilyn[jj] you didn't encounter missing gdk.h ?
2021-04-20T05:58:54 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> nah
2021-04-20T05:59:08 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
2021-04-20T06:06:28 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> maybe you're just unlucky :P
2021-04-20T06:06:35 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> new binary as well. enjoy the fun
2021-04-20T06:07:17 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> maybe part of  my chroot's gtk install broke when i did rm -rf / accidentally
2021-04-20T06:07:18 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> and repo-bin is now up on git free for the cloning!
2021-04-20T06:07:29 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> nice
2021-04-20T06:07:32 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> i doubt that, you probably just missed one
2021-04-20T06:07:46 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> they're hard to spot in all this spaghetti code...
2021-04-20T06:08:35 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> btw esr has been rotting for a while now
2021-04-20T06:08:39 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> should it be dropped ?
2021-04-20T06:09:47 #kisslinux <necromansy> i wonder if anyone uses esr?
2021-04-20T06:09:55 #kisslinux <necromansy> i was for a bit but not anymore
2021-04-20T06:10:22 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> yeah its updated on the same frequency as regular ff anyways so no point
2021-04-20T06:10:49 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> is it legit just an old version of firefox...
2021-04-20T06:11:46 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> It's based on some ancient release of firefox and they just backport important security stuff to it
2021-04-20T06:12:10 #kisslinux <necromansy> extended security release iirc
2021-04-20T06:12:13 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> mhm
2021-04-20T06:12:15 #kisslinux <necromansy> so basically that
2021-04-20T06:12:17 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> i mean how often does it get updated tho
2021-04-20T06:12:25 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> like, it probably got a new one today i'm guessing
2021-04-20T06:12:30 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Monthly
2021-04-20T06:12:35 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> whuu
2021-04-20T06:13:02 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Its a more stable codebase for patches, the esr dbus and gtk patches havent needed any modification for months
2021-04-20T06:13:57 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Which also means you need to backport crap like newer rust support yourself..
2021-04-20T06:15:14 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> why would anyone do this
2021-04-20T06:16:32 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> ping me when that PR is ready :)
2021-04-20T06:16:37 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> i'm off to bed now tho
2021-04-20T06:16:47 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> gngn
2021-04-20T06:23:37 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> man fuck webshit
2021-04-20T06:24:34 #kisslinux <necromansy> mood
2021-04-20T06:53:31 #kisslinux <tink> if they can prevent invidius instances from accessing music videos, why aren't they blocking invidius' access to all videos?
2021-04-20T09:19:37 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Invidious is insignificant to them
2021-04-20T09:19:50 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Music is blocked cuz of copyright stuff
2021-04-20T12:16:38 #kisslinux <spryc> o/
2021-04-20T12:17:21 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> hi
2021-04-20T13:11:26 #kisslinux <soliwilos> Gey matter bad or good #
2021-04-20T13:11:50 #kisslinux <soliwilos> Wrong window, sorry.
2021-04-20T13:13:37 #kisslinux <soliwilos> Trying out catgirl now, seems like a nice irc client.
2021-04-20T13:26:47 #kisslinux <tink> testuser_[m]: I see. This way, they are protecting copyrighted videos while keeping even those who do not want to use Youtube's own frontend dependent on Youtube for watching videos.
2021-04-20T13:46:13 #kisslinux <aj_> I am trying to build viper-browser, but the compilation is failing due to not having ninja installed. Is the ninja build system available in a repository already?
2021-04-20T13:47:19 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> you can use samurai
2021-04-20T13:47:26 #kisslinux <acheam> its in the main repo
2021-04-20T13:47:35 #kisslinux <acheam> (as "samurai")
2021-04-20T13:47:51 #kisslinux <aj_> thanks, i thought i remembered there being an alternative
2021-04-20T13:50:20 #kisslinux <spryc> i think i gotta r�einstall ever since that power outage it seem�s that the filesystem is corrupt
2021-04-20T14:44:30 #kisslinux <aj_> okay, so i have samurai installed, however, both neovim and viper-browser fail with ninja related errors. is there anything special i need to due in order to get packages to build with samurai?
2021-04-20T14:44:51 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> What are those ninja related errors
2021-04-20T14:45:44 #kisslinux <acheam> logs. logs. logs.
2021-04-20T14:50:44 #kisslinux <aj_> neovim log http://0x0.st/-AlN.txt
2021-04-20T14:51:59 #kisslinux <aj_> qt5-webengine log (this is the part that fails in viper-browser) http://0x0.st/-Alq.txt
2021-04-20T14:55:02 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> neovim is known to be broken for now. can you send the config.log file for viper-browser ?
2021-04-20T14:55:13 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> KISS_DEBUG=1 kiss b viper-browser then get config.log from there
2021-04-20T14:57:44 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> btw you can just `export CMAKE_GENERATOR=Ninja` instead of forking packages
2021-04-20T15:00:25 #kisslinux <E5ten> aj_: try getting samurai from git, mcf recently changed it to print a 3-part version number with --version (which qt-webengine requires to detect ninja as present and usable)
2021-04-20T15:03:54 #kisslinux <aj_> probably a stupid question, but after building with KISS_DEBUG=1 where is the config.log? i can only find the same log that is stored in ~/.cache/kiss/logs
2021-04-20T15:04:39 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> in the build dir
2021-04-20T15:04:56 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> it'll be ~/.cache/kiss/proc/something/build/$package/config.log
2021-04-20T15:05:08 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> try what E5ten  suggested
2021-04-20T15:15:37 #kisslinux <aj_> i cloned samurai and installed with make && make install. i'm still getting the same error. i'll post the config.log
2021-04-20T15:15:52 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> you probably installed it to /usr/local
2021-04-20T15:17:40 #kisslinux <aj_> from how you said that, i'm guessing that is the wrong way  to do it
2021-04-20T15:19:52 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> just run `kiss fork samurai; cd samurai; echo "git+https://github.com/michaelforney/samurai" > sources; rm checksums`
2021-04-20T15:19:58 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> and kiss b
2021-04-20T15:22:41 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> In PATH /usr/bin is before /usr/local/bin so anything samurai will be called from /usr/bin
2021-04-20T15:23:02 #kisslinux <aj_> makes sense
2021-04-20T15:23:27 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> s/anything//
2021-04-20T15:23:27 #kisslinux <movzbl> <testuser_[m]> In PATH /usr/bin is before /usr/local/bin so  samurai will be called from /usr/bin
2021-04-20T15:28:24 #kisslinux <zenomat> hello everyone
2021-04-20T15:28:37 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Hi zenomat
2021-04-20T15:29:37 #kisslinux <acheam> hello zenomat
2021-04-20T15:34:44 #kisslinux <aarng> helo
2021-04-20T15:36:49 #kisslinux <acheam> halo
2021-04-20T15:38:04 #kisslinux <aj_> getting samurai from git seems to be working. at least i'm further along in the build process than i was before :)
2021-04-20T15:38:17 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Nice
2021-04-20T16:15:49 #kisslinux <mrdumbpants> hi
2021-04-20T16:19:07 #kisslinux <zenomat> Hey
2021-04-20T16:22:19 #kisslinux <acheam> hi mrdumbpants
2021-04-20T16:22:45 #kisslinux <mrdumbpants> hi achaem
2021-04-20T16:29:33 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Hi
2021-04-20T16:33:42 #kisslinux <miskatonic> hi
2021-04-20T16:35:27 #kisslinux <phoebos[m]> did anyone get my v3 patches on the mailing list
2021-04-20T16:36:32 #kisslinux <aarng> phoebos[m]: I don't see it
2021-04-20T16:37:29 #kisslinux <aarng> oh, the ones from the 16th you mean?
2021-04-20T16:37:32 #kisslinux <aarng> those are there
2021-04-20T16:43:32 #kisslinux <phoebos[m]> aye they were a few days ago
2021-04-20T16:43:42 #kisslinux <phoebos[m]> nice
2021-04-20T16:45:40 #kisslinux <aarng> dilyn such a slacker, smh
2021-04-20T17:09:37 #kisslinux <acheam> not even online
2021-04-20T17:13:26 #kisslinux <jslick> time to fork kisslinux again
2021-04-20T17:14:56 #kisslinux <kiedtl> acheam: poll pls
2021-04-20T17:18:53 #kisslinux <zenomat> Down with the bdfl!
2021-04-20T17:19:43 #kisslinux <kiedtl> we need contributor solidarity here
2021-04-20T17:26:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> i never received the v3 patches :o
2021-04-20T17:26:28 #kisslinux <kiedtl> imposter
2021-04-20T17:27:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> three times you will deny me
2021-04-20T17:31:29 #kisslinux <acheam> I never recieved them either
2021-04-20T17:31:50 #kisslinux <acheam> kiedtl: are you dropping exa?
2021-04-20T17:32:29 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I haven't been maintaining them for months now. I thought they were already in the graveyard.
2021-04-20T17:32:35 #kisslinux <acheam> ha lol
2021-04-20T17:32:36 #kisslinux <kiedtl> So, yes, I am.
2021-04-20T17:32:40 #kisslinux <acheam> cool
2021-04-20T17:33:01 #kisslinux <acheam> I shall pick it up then
2021-04-20T17:33:18 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Ah, nice
2021-04-20T17:33:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> there's nothing pending to be resent, but it IS in the archive. strange.
2021-04-20T17:33:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> will fix :)
2021-04-20T17:36:05 #kisslinux <acheam> dilyn: so do I now own rclone?
2021-04-20T17:36:45 #kisslinux <aarng> btw. patches via email should probably also state whether the sender is the maintainer
2021-04-20T17:37:17 #kisslinux <aarng> the manifest too?
2021-04-20T17:39:55 #kisslinux <aarng> not sure how useful that requirement really is
2021-04-20T17:42:04 #kisslinux <dilyn> do you not have user.name set phoebos
2021-04-20T17:42:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> the manifest should probably be an a pastebin link
2021-04-20T17:44:31 #kisslinux <aarng> I guess we can do that
2021-04-20T17:45:09 #kisslinux <acheam> if a project requires pandoc to build manpages, what should I do?
2021-04-20T17:45:25 #kisslinux <acheam> and pandoc-bin as a make dep, install the plain markdown files to /usr/share/doc, ec
2021-04-20T17:46:56 #kisslinux <dilyn> i believe this was tackled a long long time ago
2021-04-20T17:47:03 #kisslinux <dilyn> the solution was to pregenerate them iirc
2021-04-20T17:47:15 #kisslinux <acheam> ah and then include it in files/
2021-04-20T17:47:29 #kisslinux <acheam> ?
2021-04-20T17:58:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> yah
2021-04-20T18:00:38 #kisslinux <acheam> cool
2021-04-20T18:03:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> peering through the IRC logs it looks like that might only be the case for gtk-doc et al
2021-04-20T18:04:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> so you could just mark pandoc-bin as a make dep
2021-04-20T18:05:40 #kisslinux <acheam> i'm fine to manually generate them and reduce the burden on the user
2021-04-20T18:07:19 #kisslinux <acheam> dilyn: if I'm taking a package from dylan should I wait for an update, or just bump the relver now with no change to the build
2021-04-20T18:07:32 #kisslinux <acheam> sorry for the incessant packaging questions lol
2021-04-20T18:07:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> you can just add a space after the relver!
2021-04-20T18:07:56 #kisslinux <acheam> that hurts my sould
2021-04-20T18:08:05 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmao
2021-04-20T18:12:21 #kisslinux <acheam> some top quality patches in your inbox
2021-04-20T18:13:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> :v
2021-04-20T18:14:19 #kisslinux <acheam> I still have no damn clue what that emoticon is trying to convey
2021-04-20T18:14:30 #kisslinux <acheam> and i've seen you use it daily for the past year
2021-04-20T18:16:57 #kisslinux <acheam> s/year/6 months/g
2021-04-20T18:16:57 #kisslinux <movzbl> <acheam> and i've seen you use it daily for the past 6 months
2021-04-20T18:19:02 #kisslinux <acheam> aloha claudia02
2021-04-20T18:19:11 #kisslinux <claudia02> ahoi
2021-04-20T18:19:21 #kisslinux <claudia02> :v *insert doge meme here*
2021-04-20T18:19:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> acheam do you also not have user.name set in .gitconfig?
2021-04-20T18:19:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's a symbol for sarcasm, i've heard...
2021-04-20T18:19:59 #kisslinux <dilyn> I use it more for like, bashfulness
2021-04-20T18:20:41 #kisslinux <acheam> butbutbut they're good commits!
2021-04-20T18:20:47 #kisslinux <acheam> I do have a name
2021-04-20T18:20:56 #kisslinux <acheam> should be set to "Armaan Bhojwani"
2021-04-20T18:21:49 #kisslinux <dilyn> hmhmhm
2021-04-20T18:22:03 #kisslinux <dilyn> because git likes to complain. lemme seeeee
2021-04-20T18:22:53 #kisslinux <acheam> I mean, I see my name in git log
2021-04-20T18:26:02 #kisslinux <triplezer0> rrr
2021-04-20T18:26:23 #kisslinux <triplezer0> Yooo
2021-04-20T18:27:45 #kisslinux <acheam> bruh
2021-04-20T18:28:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> oh i see. it isn't complaining about names here
2021-04-20T18:28:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's complaining about... a weirder thing...
2021-04-20T18:28:33 #kisslinux <acheam> ...
2021-04-20T18:43:16 #kisslinux <dilyn> I think it's an aerc issue. if i just pull the mail down and manually apply it it works just fine
2021-04-20T18:43:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> HMHMHARUMPPH HM
2021-04-20T18:45:24 #kisslinux <acheam> hmm
2021-04-20T18:52:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> git am -i: fatal: Dirty index
2021-04-20T18:52:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> curious
2021-04-20T19:16:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> we'll have to keep playing with it. i got it to apply, but then aerc just... stops working lmao
2021-04-20T19:16:49 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's fine everythings fine
2021-04-20T19:18:13 #kisslinux <acheam> weird
2021-04-20T19:18:22 #kisslinux <acheam> also you're not removing the original sender when you reply :)
2021-04-20T19:18:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> I absolutely am!
2021-04-20T19:18:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> >=| how could ddevault do this to me
2021-04-20T19:19:29 #kisslinux <kiedtl> ddevault is sabotaging KISS!
2021-04-20T19:19:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> nah, just my workflow and sanity
2021-04-20T19:20:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's obviously directly aimed at me, he wants to destroy me
2021-04-20T19:20:20 #kisslinux <acheam> ./invite ddevailt
2021-04-20T19:21:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> hng
2021-04-20T19:37:29 #kisslinux <dilyn> okay testuser_ lemme know if you get that email twice
2021-04-20T19:42:17 #kisslinux <dilyn> sorry not testuser_. acheam
2021-04-20T19:58:57 #kisslinux <acheam> I didn't get the exa one twice
2021-04-20T20:04:49 #kisslinux <dilyn> gotcha gotcha.
2021-04-20T20:28:53 #kisslinux <acheam> dilyn: you know you don't need to include the whole diff when bottom posting, right?
2021-04-20T20:35:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> *whistles*
2021-04-20T20:35:54 #kisslinux <kqz> ah keep running into issues with programs not being able to use tls 1.3 features because libressl doesn't yet have an "openssl compatible" tls 1.3 api
2021-04-20T20:36:18 #kisslinux <kqz> close to caving and just installing openssl until libressl finishes it
2021-04-20T20:36:53 #kisslinux <acheam> nooooooo
2021-04-20T20:37:33 #kisslinux <acheam> i mean do what you want
2021-04-20T20:37:42 #kisslinux <acheam> but I will always fight for ssl provider variety on linux
2021-04-20T20:41:21 #kisslinux <kqz> yeah im a much bigger fan of the leanness of libressl but man it'd be nice to have tls 1.3 software just work ;d
2021-04-20T20:42:49 #kisslinux <kqz> im also not familiar enough with the codebase (or cryptography in general) to directly make use of these tls 1.3 functions so my hacky patches are typically just avoiding the fancy new tls 1.3 stuff
2021-04-20T20:44:18 #kisslinux <kqz> well i say "new" but tls 1.3 has been finalized since 2018
2021-04-20T20:46:24 #kisslinux <acheam> yeah makes sense
2021-04-20T20:55:40 #kisslinux <kqz> in other news (and part of my exhaustion with libressl) sourcehut on kiss still ongoing: https://0x0.st/-AG2.png
2021-04-20T20:56:35 #kisslinux <dilyn> :o
2021-04-20T20:58:43 #kisslinux <acheam> very very cool!
2021-04-20T20:58:47 #kisslinux <acheam> do you have a public repo?
2021-04-20T20:59:30 #kisslinux <kqz> yep, current sourcehut stuff can be found here: https://git.sr.ht/~kqz/repo/tree/master/item/server
2021-04-20T20:59:42 #kisslinux <acheam> sick
2021-04-20T20:59:55 #kisslinux <kqz> (packages still very wip though, ymmv)
2021-04-20T20:59:58 #kisslinux <acheam> I might use this very soon, with builds.sr.ht going paid
2021-04-20T21:00:28 #kisslinux <acheam> still undecided if I will become a paying member or switch to self hosting
2021-04-20T21:00:46 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> pretty nice setup!
2021-04-20T21:01:20 #kisslinux <kqz> thanks! :D and yeah build.sr.ht is going to be pretty involved to package (and then configure), will probably get around to that one soon though
2021-04-20T21:01:21 #kisslinux <acheam> what browser is that?
2021-04-20T21:01:39 #kisslinux <kqz> just firefox with some css
2021-04-20T21:01:49 #kisslinux <acheam> ah nic
2021-04-20T21:01:50 #kisslinux <acheam> e
2021-04-20T21:02:21 #kisslinux <acheam> Do you get the url bar by hovering at the top or smthng?
2021-04-20T21:02:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> i find navigating sr.ht... painful.
2021-04-20T21:02:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> i think i'd just rather use gitea tbh
2021-04-20T21:02:43 #kisslinux <acheam> dilyn: once you get used to how the components interact with eachother it becomes easier
2021-04-20T21:03:01 #kisslinux <kqz> it's not the most intuitive for sure, but I actually like the general interface
2021-04-20T21:03:06 #kisslinux <acheam> As do I
2021-04-20T21:03:20 #kisslinux <kqz> though comparing self hosted sourcehut to gitea, gitea is MILES simpler haha
2021-04-20T21:03:22 #kisslinux <acheam> its intended to become more intuitive before the beta though
2021-04-20T21:03:31 #kisslinux <acheam> lol gitea is a single binary plus a database
2021-04-20T21:03:37 #kisslinux <acheam> sourcehut is.....
2021-04-20T21:03:39 #kisslinux <dilyn> i mean i like how clean it is, but just getting around is just too tedious when it shouldn't be
2021-04-20T21:03:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> maybe i'm just a crotchety old man
2021-04-20T21:03:53 #kisslinux <acheam> can you give a solid example?
2021-04-20T21:04:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> fossil is a single binary that CONtAINS a database. obviously the superior vcs
2021-04-20T21:04:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> a solid example. hm..
2021-04-20T21:04:28 #kisslinux <acheam> dilyn: damn I actually didn't realize how meta that is
2021-04-20T21:04:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's mostly just a feeling of exhaustion i get every time i have to go to some sr.ht/~user but i'll see if i can get an example
2021-04-20T21:04:33 #kisslinux <acheam> fossil is developed by sqlite
2021-04-20T21:04:40 #kisslinux <acheam> for the purpose of developing sqlite
2021-04-20T21:04:44 #kisslinux <acheam> but fossil contains sqlite in it
2021-04-20T21:04:47 #kisslinux <acheam> mind blown
2021-04-20T21:04:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> fossil is basically just a sqlite reader. you can manage the entire vcs if you know sql lmfao
2021-04-20T21:05:00 #kisslinux <acheam> hehe
2021-04-20T21:05:19 #kisslinux <kqz> i think my only gripe with navigating is how small text and links are, they don't "pop out" like they do on github/gitea for example
2021-04-20T21:05:32 #kisslinux <acheam> ah yeah
2021-04-20T21:06:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> i really appreciate the flat style
2021-04-20T21:06:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> hm. navigating kqz's page is super easy. maybe i just have a penchant for hating other people's sr.ht's
2021-04-20T21:06:51 #kisslinux <acheam> lol
2021-04-20T21:07:00 #kisslinux <acheam> only KISS user's sr.ht pages
2021-04-20T21:07:02 #kisslinux <kqz> oh acheam missed your earlier question, I hit ctrl + l to get urlbar and stuff back, it autohides when i click content / navigate away from it
2021-04-20T21:07:14 #kisslinux <acheam> oh nice
2021-04-20T21:07:41 #kisslinux <acheam> so display:none except when ::focus ed?
2021-04-20T21:11:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> https://git.sr.ht/~kqz/repo/tree/master/item/desktop/foot/build#L8 :thinking:
2021-04-20T21:11:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> i've seen this before
2021-04-20T21:11:40 #kisslinux <kqz> oh hahaha yep! stole that straight from your repo a while ago
2021-04-20T21:12:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> you might want to revisit it! dnkl has changed PGO generation and stuff
2021-04-20T21:13:21 #kisslinux <kqz> o: yeah haven't looked at it in forever, I did attempt to use that build as a template for a mesa-pgo package a while ago
2021-04-20T21:13:41 #kisslinux <kqz> but then btrfs kernel bug struck and i lost a lot of stuff, so will revisit that too someday
2021-04-20T21:14:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> :'(
2021-04-20T21:14:28 #kisslinux <kqz> acheam:  yeah pretty much #navigator-toolbox:not(:focus-within):not(:hover)
2021-04-20T21:14:58 #kisslinux <acheam> i'm stealing that :)
2021-04-20T21:15:23 #kisslinux <kqz> hahaha, i actually stole this from someone else as well, so third party stealing ;d
2021-04-20T21:15:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> stealing is a way of life
2021-04-20T21:15:42 #kisslinux <dilyn> kiss-steal is bae
2021-04-20T21:16:07 #kisslinux <kqz> i think this is where I got the whole setup from https://github.com/dbuxy218/Prismatic-Night/tree/master/firefox/chrome
2021-04-20T21:16:24 #kisslinux <acheam> thank kqz
2021-04-20T21:16:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> ah i love his firefox look
2021-04-20T21:16:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> remember seeing it on unixporn but being 2lazy2doit
2021-04-20T21:17:42 #kisslinux <kqz> yeah it's really nice
2021-04-20T21:25:27 #kisslinux <kqz> just added a link to your repo in the credits of mine dilyn ;d sure there's probably some others i've yoinked from that i'm still forgetting
2021-04-20T21:25:35 #kisslinux <kqz> kiss-credits when! /s
2021-04-20T21:29:36 #kisslinux <acheam> hmmmm
2021-04-20T21:29:45 #kisslinux <acheam> if kiss-steal did some rebase magic
2021-04-20T21:29:49 #kisslinux <acheam> that could actually be very possible
2021-04-20T21:30:32 #kisslinux <acheam> but the rebase magic is above my pay grade
2021-04-20T21:34:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol i don't need credit it's all plain-text :P
2021-04-20T21:34:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> but knowing the source can be useful
2021-04-20T21:35:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> does kiss-steal do a whole clone + git checkout master -- pkg ?
2021-04-20T21:35:42 #kisslinux <dilyn> i never lookeda t it lol
2021-04-20T21:36:05 #kisslinux <dilyn> konimex: your bmake patch can be a single sed if you make sure the sed replaced text is a tab character and not six spaces
2021-04-20T21:37:14 #kisslinux <dilyn> a la https://raw.githubusercontent.com/dilyn-corner/KISS-me/master/core/make/build
2021-04-20T21:37:47 #kisslinux <konimex> ah nice
2021-04-20T21:38:09 #kisslinux <konimex> I'll make the change later in the morning
2021-04-20T21:41:18 #kisslinux <kqz> yeah i figure having credits vs not having shouldn't hurt, plus it helps me keep track of cool repos :D
2021-04-20T22:43:22 #kisslinux <acheam> dilyn: there aren't any styles on https://git.k1sslinux.org/repo/
2021-04-20T22:43:32 #kisslinux <acheam> the css and icons 404
2021-04-20T22:44:58 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> ah, the page must've been cached on my browser
2021-04-20T22:46:04 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> fixed :)
2021-04-20T22:46:32 #kisslinux <acheam> yay
2021-04-20T22:57:35 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> you ever excitedly remove gnu-as from your system only to realize nss needs it
2021-04-20T22:58:47 #kisslinux <acheam> nah who even needs nss
2021-04-20T22:59:07 #kisslinux <acheam> like, nothing on my system even uses it
2021-04-20T22:59:43 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> :|
2021-04-20T23:07:34 #kisslinux <kqz> so, how do you guys go about packacking "go" libraries and apps? i need to make a patch for sr.ht's go crypto lib, but have no idea how to go around go's package manager/module system
2021-04-20T23:09:17 #kisslinux <kqz> "go build" just installs and then pulls the libs from my $GOPATH, so i have no chance to patch them when actually building the package
2021-04-20T23:09:31 #kisslinux <phoebos[m]> what do you need exactly? go does package management automatically
2021-04-20T23:10:00 #kisslinux <phoebos[m]> ah. what do you need to patch?
2021-04-20T23:10:51 #kisslinux <kqz> not sure how to eloquently explain, but i'm working on a patch to change this from using Ed25119 key exchange to just a simple RSA key exchange https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/core-go/tree/master/item/crypto/crypto.go
2021-04-20T23:11:23 #kisslinux <kqz> but the actual package i'm working on for this change is https://git.sr.ht/~kqz/repo/tree/master/item/server/pages.sr.ht/build
2021-04-20T23:12:00 #kisslinux <kqz> so when i build the package, the package manager never sees this file, so now idea how I can patch this from the specified package
2021-04-20T23:12:06 #kisslinux <phoebos[m]> you could patch the import bit to pull in your fork of the library but that's not a great solution
2021-04-20T23:12:34 #kisslinux <kqz> hmm yeah i'd rather haha, but also don't see any other way to accomplish what i want
2021-04-20T23:12:39 #kisslinux <kqz> s/rather/rather not
2021-04-20T23:16:56 #kisslinux <kqz> ohh think i figured it out, i t hink i can set $GOPATH to something like $1/gopath and use go mod download to fetch the libs and do my patch from there
2021-04-20T23:25:57 #kisslinux <kqz> oh actually i guess no need for "$1" since we won't be installing any of the libs, this works "mkdir GOPATH; export GOPATH="($pwd)/GOPATH"
2021-04-20T23:31:23 #kisslinux <acheam> hi illiliti
2021-04-20T23:31:32 #kisslinux <illiliti> hello
2021-04-20T23:31:41 #kisslinux <illiliti> kqz: https://github.com/golang/go/wiki/Modules#when-should-i-use-the-replace-directive
2021-04-20T23:33:16 #kisslinux <kqz> ooooh!! this is even better, thanks!!
2021-04-20T23:33:35 #kisslinux <kqz> nice, so there's a builtin way in go to do what i want :D
2021-04-20T23:35:21 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> oh hot diggity
2021-04-20T23:35:29 #kisslinux <dilyn[jj]> if you don't use intel it's super easy :X lel