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2021-04-18T00:12:03 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's a PERMISSIONS problem on SIGNING the emails. jesus.
2021-04-18T00:12:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> the server might be wonky for a minute
2021-04-18T01:12:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's always a permissions problem
2021-04-18T01:14:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> the problem is that for this mail server i had to make like 7 users and groups and it's nonobvious who needs to read what
2021-04-18T01:15:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> except for this one. this one was obvious, and I'm a dumb who used -R when I shouldn't have
2021-04-18T02:19:02 #kisslinux <kisslinuxwontboo> I am installing kiss, but i Cant get it to boot. I am using efibootmgr, and [these](https://pastebin.com/CcsFrV2V) are the commands I used to install kiss. If anyone knows what I did wrong, plz tell me.
2021-04-18T02:21:05 #kisslinux <dilyn> the vmlinuz location is relative to /boot, not /
2021-04-18T02:21:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> so it should just be '-l vmlinuz-5.11.15'
2021-04-18T02:22:08 #kisslinux <kisslinuxwontboo> thx
2021-04-18T02:22:13 #kisslinux <kisslinuxwontboo> Will try this
2021-04-18T02:46:39 #kisslinux <kisslinuxwontboo> Ok now it boots but I get an error saying "VFS Unable to mount root fs on unknown block" "Please append a correct root= boot option here are the available options nvme0n1 /dev/nvme0n1p1 /dev/nvme0n1p2 Even though I changed the efibootmgr command to "efibootmgr -c -d /dev/nvme0n1 -p 1 -L "Kiss" -l vmlinuz-5.11.15 root=/dev/nvme0n1p2"
2021-04-18T02:46:55 #kisslinux <kisslinuxwontboo> what do I do now?
2021-04-18T02:50:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> was that supposed to be '... -l vmlinuz-5.11.15 -u 'root=/dev/nvme0n1p2'?
2021-04-18T02:53:06 #kisslinux <acheam> test message
2021-04-18T02:53:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> suh
2021-04-18T02:53:17 #kisslinux <acheam> nice
2021-04-18T02:53:21 #kisslinux <acheam> switching from soju to pounce
2021-04-18T02:53:23 #kisslinux <acheam> all hail june
2021-04-18T02:53:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> nicenice
2021-04-18T02:53:40 #kisslinux <acheam> I hope that I wasn't bouncing earlier or anything
2021-04-18T02:53:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> nope
2021-04-18T02:54:01 #kisslinux <acheam> awesome
2021-04-18T02:55:14 #kisslinux <kisslinuxwontboo> Will using -u fix it, or are there other issues too
2021-04-18T02:55:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> using -u should fix it; because the kernel gave you a list of options it means it can see your partitions just fine
2021-04-18T02:56:03 #kisslinux <kisslinuxwontboo> Thank you
2021-04-18T02:56:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> ofc
2021-04-18T02:58:12 #kisslinux <kisslinuxwontboo> Thank you so much, it works!
2021-04-18T02:58:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> hooray!
2021-04-18T02:59:00 #kisslinux <acheam> woot woot
2021-04-18T03:02:28 #kisslinux <kisslinuxwontboo> gtg, thank you guys!
2021-04-18T03:02:35 #kisslinux <dilyn> gngn have fun
2021-04-18T03:40:03 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Hi
2021-04-18T03:48:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> hihi
2021-04-18T04:06:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> also yes the ML archive was down for a while; that was mostly because nobody had used it since I made the post!
2021-04-18T04:07:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> but we got a few mails in so I quick threw together an index for the page, and now you can it in all its glory :)
2021-04-18T04:38:59 #kisslinux <dilyn> ah. how exciting https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/84271
2021-04-18T06:05:02 #kisslinux <konimex> the first PR for LLVM12 support should be https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/81451, however I have no idea for now on which commits since merging that patch to cherrypick so I can backport it to 1.51
2021-04-18T06:10:49 #kisslinux <dilyn> for big projects it's always hard to track :X
2021-04-18T09:22:36 #kisslinux <thermatix> hai
2021-04-18T09:23:13 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> hi
2021-04-18T09:23:21 #kisslinux <thermatix> question, Do I need a Linux root partition over a standard Linux filesystem partition?
2021-04-18T09:25:13 #kisslinux <thermatix> I've decided to completely wipe off windows from the laptop and not bother with dual-booting
2021-04-18T09:25:51 #kisslinux <thermatix> mostly because windows doesn't want to dual boot  and I think bit locker doesn't like bring resized like a normal FS
2021-04-18T10:48:53 #kisslinux <phoebos[m]> dilyn: the community archive is 404
2021-04-18T10:53:00 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> probably cuz nothing has been sent there yet
2021-04-18T10:53:02 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> or has it ?
2021-04-18T11:08:30 #kisslinux <thermatix> I'm having trouble figuring out what firmware blobs I need, I'm using `lsmod` and `lspci` but I still don't quite understand
2021-04-18T11:08:45 #kisslinux <thermatix> I've got the AMD microcode and intel wifi stuff
2021-04-18T11:08:51 #kisslinux <thermatix> but little else
2021-04-18T11:09:30 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> you need for your gpu too
2021-04-18T11:10:37 #kisslinux <thermatix> I know but I don't know which one
2021-04-18T11:10:48 #kisslinux <thermatix> wait
2021-04-18T11:11:16 #kisslinux <thermatix> I mean, I know it's renoir
2021-04-18T11:11:37 #kisslinux <thermatix> do I just need everthing that's
2021-04-18T11:11:49 #kisslinux <thermatix> `amdgpu/renoir_*`
2021-04-18T11:16:13 #kisslinux <konimex> just copy everything first, rebboot, if it works, check at the dmesg log to see the firmware used, and delete the rest
2021-04-18T11:16:17 #kisslinux <konimex> s/rebboot/reboot/
2021-04-18T11:16:17 #kisslinux <movzbl> <konimex> just copy everything first, reboot, if it works, check at the dmesg log to see the firmware used, and delete the rest
2021-04-18T11:30:22 #kisslinux <thermatix> found this `modinfo $(lsmod | cut -d' ' -f 1) | awk '/filename/{fn=$2;} /license/{print $2, fn;}'`
2021-04-18T11:30:43 #kisslinux <thermatix> it  show the license and filename of every loaded module:
2021-04-18T11:30:56 #kisslinux <thermatix> got it from https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1591753#p1591753
2021-04-18T13:33:37 #kisslinux <phoebos[m]> testuser_: there's been some stuff there
2021-04-18T13:33:50 #kisslinux <phoebos[m]> including 3 versions of my patches lol
2021-04-18T13:51:27 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Hmm
2021-04-18T13:58:13 #kisslinux <thermatix> how do I figure out what firmware blobs have been loaded? or do I have to go though `dmesg`?
2021-04-18T13:58:29 #kisslinux <thermatix> because there's not a lot about firmware stuff on it
2021-04-18T14:19:34 #kisslinux <E5ten> konimex: I see in the wyverkiss tracker issue for things needing GNU software to build that nasm isn't checked, iirc I made a patch that made it bmake compatible and sent it to you, were there other problems with using it with bmake? or did I not even remember to send that lol?
2021-04-18T14:24:08 #kisslinux <E5ten> oh hmm it's not quite how I remembered it, with autoconf and stuff, this is a patch to the Makefile.in that I think makes it bmake compatible, but I'm not sure how you could apply it to the generated Makefile, and if you can't you'd need autotools anyway so GNU would still be needed http://ix.io/2Ww6
2021-04-18T14:25:18 #kisslinux <konimex> yep, I did add the patch in 2.15.03, but in 2.15.05 they added something unrelated that made a new error: https://termbin.com/d02d so I removed it
2021-04-18T14:26:19 #kisslinux <E5ten> ah I see, I don't remember the $(shell) thing that the thing I linked replaces being there before, so maybe that was it?
2021-04-18T14:27:06 #kisslinux <konimex> it might be, but I'm not sure
2021-04-18T14:40:16 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet> test
2021-04-18T14:41:36 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet> Hello there! Someone could help me with openbox sv?
2021-04-18T14:48:29 #kisslinux <acheam> what about it?
2021-04-18T14:48:34 #kisslinux <acheam> you don't have to ask to ask
2021-04-18T14:53:33 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Hi acheam
2021-04-18T14:54:02 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet> https://pastebin.com/4fs1iXvc
2021-04-18T14:54:08 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet> There you go.
2021-04-18T14:55:26 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> cd /var/service; ln -s /etc/sv/sshd . did you do this
2021-04-18T14:55:42 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> reboot if you did it and not working
2021-04-18T14:56:53 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> hmm, is it regular or ungoogled chromium…
2021-04-18T14:58:05 #kisslinux <thermatix> 4
2021-04-18T14:58:16 #kisslinux <thermatix> whoops, sorry, lent on my keyboard >_<
2021-04-18T15:01:01 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet> Well, looks like it doesn't help at all. This is chroot env under alpine linux, i guess it shouldn't help anyways.
2021-04-18T15:01:19 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet> Any other ideas?
2021-04-18T15:02:04 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> M4R10zM0113R in community ?
2021-04-18T15:02:51 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> dKaFucy617DzhBet why do you want to run sshd inside chroot ?
2021-04-18T15:03:34 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet> For testing purposes.
2021-04-18T15:04:15 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Bind mount /run from alpine and then `mkdir -p /run/runit/supervise.sshd`
2021-04-18T15:05:19 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Hi dilyn
2021-04-18T15:05:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> just do sv up sshd after you link the service sir
2021-04-18T15:05:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> hey testuser_ :)
2021-04-18T15:05:27 #kisslinux <konimex> I that won't work since it's chroot, that means busybox init and busybox runit aren't running at all
2021-04-18T15:05:39 #kisslinux <dilyn> also ^
2021-04-18T15:05:42 #kisslinux <konimex> you're effectively running openrc
2021-04-18T15:09:11 #kisslinux <acheam> hi testuser_[m]
2021-04-18T15:11:33 #kisslinux <thermatix> I still can't figure out the firmware blob thing :(
2021-04-18T15:14:14 #kisslinux <acheam> thermatix: try modinfo and lsmod
2021-04-18T15:14:30 #kisslinux <acheam> for example, "modinfo $(lsmod | cut -d' ' -f 1) | awk '/filename/{fn=$2;} /license/{print $2, fn;}'"
2021-04-18T15:14:38 #kisslinux <acheam> ^ stolen from https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=207045
2021-04-18T15:15:14 #kisslinux <thermatix> I saw that
2021-04-18T15:15:28 #kisslinux <thermatix> thing is, I don't know how to match the kernel modules to the correct firmware blob
2021-04-18T15:17:04 #kisslinux <acheam> hmm yeah not sure
2021-04-18T15:17:09 #kisslinux <acheam> there definately is a way of doing it
2021-04-18T15:17:11 #kisslinux <thermatix> this is all I've figured out https://pastebin.com/vim8HwXN
2021-04-18T15:17:43 #kisslinux <thermatix> one thing though, from `lspci -k` most of the stuff is AMD
2021-04-18T15:17:55 #kisslinux <thermatix> then does that mean loading the AMD firmware is enough for all those things?
2021-04-18T15:18:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> that would be alot of motherboard stuff
2021-04-18T15:18:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> which you shouldn't have to worry about
2021-04-18T15:18:45 #kisslinux <thermatix> Well I still need to figure out what I need for the SD card reader
2021-04-18T15:18:54 #kisslinux <dilyn> as for the actual kernel option, it's doing to be in the wireless cards under device drivers, check the intel box and a huge selection should appear
2021-04-18T15:18:59 #kisslinux <thermatix> which is an 02 micro SD/MMC
2021-04-18T15:19:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> just click 'help' on a bunch of them, see what they say. they'll tell you the name of the module, lspci -k in arch would tell you what module is loaded for each device. match 'em up
2021-04-18T15:19:32 #kisslinux <thermatix> but I haven't found naything
2021-04-18T15:19:53 #kisslinux <thermatix> does module = firmware blob?
2021-04-18T15:20:14 #kisslinux <thermatix> question
2021-04-18T15:20:41 #kisslinux <thermatix> do I need to preserve the location?
2021-04-18T15:20:42 #kisslinux <thermatix> like
2021-04-18T15:21:11 #kisslinux <thermatix> if it's in the amdgpu folder does it need to be in the amdgpu folder inside of /usr/lib/firmware?
2021-04-18T15:21:14 #kisslinux <dilyn> module != firmware blob
2021-04-18T15:21:35 #kisslinux <dilyn> the firmware's locations in the kernel config are relative to the firmware dir
2021-04-18T15:22:00 #kisslinux <dilyn> so if it's in /usr/lib/firmware/amdgpu, firmware dir = /usr/lib/firmware and the firmware is /amdgpu/firmwarename.bin
2021-04-18T15:23:01 #kisslinux <thermatix> ah... whoops
2021-04-18T15:24:56 #kisslinux <thermatix> should I just save myself the bother and copy all the firmware blobs?
2021-04-18T15:25:34 #kisslinux <thermatix> and not the specific ones I need?
2021-04-18T15:25:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> if you don't mind wasting the disk space sure
2021-04-18T15:26:11 #kisslinux <thermatix> I have nearly 500GB
2021-04-18T15:26:14 #kisslinux <thermatix> it should be fine
2021-04-18T15:26:24 #kisslinux <thermatix> because I'm done with this
2021-04-18T15:26:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol
2021-04-18T15:27:26 #kisslinux <thermatix> god, why is there no list of Laptop model X needs firmware blobs Y
2021-04-18T15:29:19 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet> https://pastebin.com/bXq2RSYv
2021-04-18T15:29:22 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet> Doesn't work.
2021-04-18T15:29:40 #kisslinux <thermatix> @dil
2021-04-18T15:29:42 #kisslinux <thermatix> ...
2021-04-18T15:31:04 #kisslinux <thermatix> dilyn do I need to set `export $CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE`?
2021-04-18T15:31:21 #kisslinux <thermatix> or is `export $CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR` enough?
2021-04-18T15:31:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> those are set in the kernel
2021-04-18T15:31:42 #kisslinux <thermatix> so don't worry about them?
2021-04-18T15:31:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> well if you set them in the kernel then yeah
2021-04-18T15:32:00 #kisslinux <thermatix> k
2021-04-18T15:32:14 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet> Any other ideas?
2021-04-18T15:37:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> I'm confused about why you might want to ssh into a chroot
2021-04-18T15:37:16 #kisslinux <CANAVAR> hello everybody
2021-04-18T15:37:24 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> hi
2021-04-18T15:37:30 #kisslinux <thermatix> heya
2021-04-18T15:37:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> merakor2: realized your mail was to the list and hit reply - lmk if you get it twice :o
2021-04-18T15:38:01 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet> I want to test work of services in ksl, so i just picked up sshd first.
2021-04-18T15:38:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> ah
2021-04-18T15:38:46 #kisslinux <dilyn> services are just managed busybox, enabled via a symlink and turned on with sv up $service
2021-04-18T15:39:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> there's nothing intelligent about it except it turns them back on if they exit
2021-04-18T15:39:56 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet> Yeah, i know. But i need to test it, due to i don't know will it boot after installing or not.
2021-04-18T15:40:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> ah
2021-04-18T15:47:20 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet> So.. Grub with kernel will boot openbox init as should without these kind of errors, in it?
2021-04-18T15:47:44 #kisslinux <thermatix> what should the default init path be? (I'm guessing where busybox is?)
2021-04-18T15:48:21 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet>  /usr/bin?
2021-04-18T15:48:26 #kisslinux <konimex> didn't know openbox has an init
2021-04-18T15:48:56 #kisslinux <konimex> default path for init is as always, /bin/init
2021-04-18T15:49:09 #kisslinux <thermatix> thx
2021-04-18T16:02:27 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet> Is there any .cache cleaner for ksl? Like an gentoo perl-cleaner, etc..
2021-04-18T16:03:27 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> for the package manager ?
2021-04-18T16:03:37 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet> +
2021-04-18T16:04:02 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> https://gist.github.com/FriendlyNeighborhoodShane/ffcac3df6d796023d2283a6afdacedbc
2021-04-18T16:04:50 #kisslinux <dKaFucy617DzhBet> Thank you, kind sir.
2021-04-18T16:09:07 #kisslinux <thermatix> ... discord linux is just...
2021-04-18T16:12:27 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Wat
2021-04-18T16:12:33 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Its just an electron app
2021-04-18T16:17:05 #kisslinux <thermatix> no I mean the people on it
2021-04-18T16:17:18 #kisslinux <thermatix> since I'm running AMD should I disable intel stuff?
2021-04-18T16:17:26 #kisslinux <thermatix> or is there intel stuff that's just generic to all?
2021-04-18T16:18:01 #kisslinux <rabbadabba> well, if you dont have any intel hardqare, you may as well.
2021-04-18T16:18:30 #kisslinux <rabbadabba> but it doesnt matter much
2021-04-18T16:40:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you're determining AMD or Intel-specific flags, then pick the one for your hardware. it won't hurt to have both, but it'll increase the size of your kernel slightly
2021-04-18T16:40:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> also
2021-04-18T16:40:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> good morning #kisslinux
2021-04-18T16:48:37 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Hi
2021-04-18T16:48:47 #kisslinux <thermatix> hi
2021-04-18T17:23:32 #kisslinux <acheam> midfavila: good... morning?
2021-04-18T17:23:37 #kisslinux <acheam> at 2pm?
2021-04-18T17:23:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> half past
2021-04-18T17:23:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> and time is relative doncha know
2021-04-18T17:24:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> "morning" is "before I've had breakfast"
2021-04-18T17:26:04 #kisslinux <acheam> you should probably have some breakfast
2021-04-18T17:26:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> breakfast is unthawing in the sink
2021-04-18T17:26:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's not my fault that I spent four hours reading snow crash
2021-04-18T17:33:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> like,
2021-04-18T17:34:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> how can you not enjoy a book with a main character named "Hiro Protagonist"
2021-04-18T18:30:21 #kisslinux <thermatix> managed to recompile the kernel
2021-04-18T18:30:35 #kisslinux <thermatix> but I didn't do anything about the firmware blobs
2021-04-18T18:41:20 #kisslinux <thermatix> or I was, I'm getting an error when I try to install the modules, it's going `sed: modules.order : no such file or directory; make: *** [Makefile: 1440: _modinst_] Error 1`
2021-04-18T18:44:05 #kisslinux <jslick> kernel compile might have failed.  Scroll up a bit to look for an error
2021-04-18T18:48:11 #kisslinux <thermatix> ah
2021-04-18T18:48:35 #kisslinux <thermatix> Busy box diff unrecognized option: I
2021-04-18T18:49:23 #kisslinux <thermatix> it's in `#scripts/checksyscalls.sh`
2021-04-18T18:49:32 #kisslinux <thermatix> s/#//
2021-04-18T18:49:32 #kisslinux <movzbl> <thermatix> it's in `scripts/checksyscalls.sh`
2021-04-18T18:52:13 #kisslinux <jslick> I think that's a harmless one that doesn't fail the compile.  Is there another error besides `diff` and `find` options?  If compile failed, it'll say `make: blah blah blah Error 2` or something like that
2021-04-18T18:56:19 #kisslinux <thermatix> `mktemp: (null):No such file or directory; make[1]: *** [usr/Makefile:80 usr/initramfs_data.cpio] Error 1`
2021-04-18T18:56:30 #kisslinux <thermatix> tch one sec
2021-04-18T18:58:46 #kisslinux <obiter> d
2021-04-18T18:58:54 #kisslinux <obiter> hello -
2021-04-18T18:59:35 #kisslinux <thermatix> ok -> https://pastebin.com/ds0ancuA
2021-04-18T18:59:48 #kisslinux <thermatix> there seems to be several of them but I have run the build several times
2021-04-18T19:00:55 #kisslinux <thermatix> it fails on the `$(build-dirs):` step
2021-04-18T19:01:53 #kisslinux <thermatix> `$(Q)$(MAKE) $(build)=$@`
2021-04-18T19:02:26 #kisslinux <thermatix> also hello obiter
2021-04-18T19:02:42 #kisslinux <obiter> ah - thanks bud
2021-04-18T19:02:42 #kisslinux <obiter> hello
2021-04-18T19:03:53 #kisslinux <obiter> im new here - most proberly booted off in a few - lolz
2021-04-18T19:05:30 #kisslinux <obiter> i wonder if these okes are snuffing my ip
2021-04-18T19:05:38 #kisslinux <obiter> .....
2021-04-18T19:07:37 #kisslinux <thermatix> it's ok that your new
2021-04-18T19:07:43 #kisslinux <thermatix> what do you mean snuffing?
2021-04-18T19:07:53 #kisslinux <thermatix> ...
2021-04-18T19:07:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> generally "snuff" means "to kill"
2021-04-18T19:07:59 #kisslinux <thermatix> OH
2021-04-18T19:08:00 #kisslinux <thermatix> lol
2021-04-18T19:08:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> which, considering he just left, makes sense
2021-04-18T19:08:03 #kisslinux <thermatix> right
2021-04-18T19:08:15 #kisslinux <thermatix> what killed his connection?
2021-04-18T19:08:21 #kisslinux <thermatix> or did he just leave?
2021-04-18T19:08:35 #kisslinux <midfavila> if his connection was killed it would be a timeout
2021-04-18T19:09:02 #kisslinux <thermatix> meh
2021-04-18T19:09:03 #kisslinux <obiter> ...feel so alone in this...
2021-04-18T19:09:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> what's the problem?
2021-04-18T19:09:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> can't much help you if you keep leaving.
2021-04-18T19:09:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> meh
2021-04-18T19:11:30 #kisslinux <thermatix> sooooo... what do you think is causing my kernel build to fail?
2021-04-18T19:11:36 #kisslinux <thermatix> I mean
2021-04-18T19:11:48 #kisslinux <thermatix> I get that it's expecting a folder/file to be some where and it's not
2021-04-18T19:12:08 #kisslinux <midfavila> does /lib/firmware exist
2021-04-18T19:12:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> or, wait
2021-04-18T19:12:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> no
2021-04-18T19:12:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> was it you having firmware problems
2021-04-18T19:12:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> oh
2021-04-18T19:12:39 #kisslinux <midfavila> no, looks like you're having problems with initramfs
2021-04-18T19:12:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> my solution? don't use initramfs
2021-04-18T19:12:48 #kisslinux <thermatix> i'm not?
2021-04-18T19:12:49 #kisslinux <thermatix> unless
2021-04-18T19:13:00 #kisslinux <thermatix> I activated in the kernel config?
2021-04-18T19:13:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> i'd disable it
2021-04-18T19:13:13 #kisslinux <thermatix> where is it?
2021-04-18T19:13:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> idk off the top of my head but it's not hard to find
2021-04-18T19:15:12 #kisslinux <thermatix> found it
2021-04-18T19:15:26 #kisslinux <thermatix> yeah I must have turned it on without realising it :(
2021-04-18T19:15:34 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's enabled by default afaik
2021-04-18T19:15:44 #kisslinux <thermatix> or I just didn't turn it off?
2021-04-18T19:16:10 #kisslinux <thermatix> well, now I know why the build was finishing so quickly... it was erroring XD
2021-04-18T19:17:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> errors are the best build speed optimization
2021-04-18T19:17:23 #kisslinux <thermatix> :D
2021-04-18T19:18:08 #kisslinux <jslick> I'm not sure what would cause that error.  You didn't run out of disk space did you?
2021-04-18T19:18:28 #kisslinux <thermatix> I did try to ask on discord;s #linux channel but they said they wouldn't help as it was a non-supported distro which fair enough but, BUT I wasn't asking a distro specific question I was just asking about firmware blobs
2021-04-18T19:18:35 #kisslinux <thermatix> s/;/'
2021-04-18T19:18:39 #kisslinux <thermatix> s/;/'/
2021-04-18T19:18:39 #kisslinux <movzbl> <thermatix> I did try to ask on discord's #linux channel but they said they wouldn't help as it was a non-supported distro which fair enough but, BUT I wasn't asking a distro specific question I was just asking about firmware blobs
2021-04-18T19:18:51 #kisslinux <midfavila> anyone who talks about "supported distros" should be ignored
2021-04-18T19:18:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> basic principles transcend distros.
2021-04-18T19:19:20 #kisslinux <thermatix>  Litteraly:  `"Doesn't matter, it's an unsupported distro.  We won't provide support until you move to a supported distro."`
2021-04-18T19:19:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> tell them to stop being pricks who shill debian and red hat clones
2021-04-18T19:19:43 #kisslinux <thermatix> oh AND and
2021-04-18T19:19:47 #kisslinux <thermatix> `"Again, providing support would be us condoning your use of a non-sane distribution."`
2021-04-18T19:20:00 #kisslinux <thermatix> so I just responded with: `"I don't see it that way but I'm not interested in arguing so let's leave it at that
2021-04-18T19:20:00 #kisslinux <thermatix> "`
2021-04-18T19:20:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> >non-sane
2021-04-18T19:20:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> what's a sane distro in their eyes
2021-04-18T19:20:38 #kisslinux <thermatix> like i said, I could understand if  I was asking a specific distro related question but I wasn't
2021-04-18T19:20:46 #kisslinux <acheam> just... get off of discord?
2021-04-18T19:20:51 #kisslinux <thermatix> eh
2021-04-18T19:20:56 #kisslinux <thermatix> I tend to mostly ignore it
2021-04-18T19:21:13 #kisslinux <thermatix> and only use it when I need it (and can't find it elsewhere)
2021-04-18T19:22:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> dicksword, reddit, hecker noose, etc are all cringe and filled with dunning-krugers anyway
2021-04-18T19:22:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> *I* only get my advice from the most professional of sources
2021-04-18T19:22:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> e.g #kisslinux
2021-04-18T19:22:46 #kisslinux <thermatix> .. XD
2021-04-18T19:22:47 #kisslinux <thermatix> HA HA
2021-04-18T19:22:53 #kisslinux <thermatix> the guy's name was KRUUG
2021-04-18T19:22:54 #kisslinux <thermatix> XD
2021-04-18T19:23:10 #kisslinux <thermatix> cos you said "... filled with dunning-krugers anyway"
2021-04-18T19:23:14 #kisslinux <thermatix> ...
2021-04-18T19:23:19 #kisslinux <thermatix> well I thought it was amusing
2021-04-18T19:23:24 #kisslinux <eax> all that electron usage is messing their brain lol
2021-04-18T19:23:42 #kisslinux <thermatix> i uh, having other issue now
2021-04-18T19:23:49 #kisslinux <thermatix> trying to install modules
2021-04-18T19:23:54 #kisslinux <thermatix> it's failing with
2021-04-18T19:24:13 #kisslinux <thermatix> `mktemp: (null): no such file or directory`
2021-04-18T19:24:16 #kisslinux <thermatix> after
2021-04-18T19:24:29 #kisslinux <thermatix> `DEPMOD 5.11.13-zen1`
2021-04-18T19:25:50 #kisslinux <jslick> ah zen kernel?  That's an unsupported kernel (I kid)
2021-04-18T19:26:20 #kisslinux <thermatix> it worked on the VM
2021-04-18T19:26:29 #kisslinux <thermatix> and the kernel built successfully
2021-04-18T19:28:11 #kisslinux <jslick> any clues from `df` output?
2021-04-18T19:29:35 #kisslinux <thermatix> it was complaining about there not being a `/procs/mounts`
2021-04-18T19:29:38 #kisslinux <thermatix> so I added it
2021-04-18T19:29:44 #kisslinux <thermatix> but module install still fails
2021-04-18T19:30:01 #kisslinux <thermatix> but I doubt it's a lack of space
2021-04-18T19:30:06 #kisslinux <thermatix> have many many GBs
2021-04-18T19:33:08 #kisslinux <jslick> I was thinking more of tmpfs full or something.  I don't know the error; that's all I can think of
2021-04-18T19:33:41 #kisslinux <midfavila> I don't think I've ever even seen a tmpfs fill up...
2021-04-18T19:34:00 #kisslinux <acheam> they can for sure
2021-04-18T19:34:10 #kisslinux <acheam> i've seen it warned about in the obsd manual too
2021-04-18T19:34:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> not sayin' they can't, just not something I've ever seen
2021-04-18T19:34:24 #kisslinux <acheam> ofc
2021-04-18T19:34:41 #kisslinux <midfavila> although I should probably set up a cronjob to regularly clean tmpfs
2021-04-18T19:34:43 #kisslinux <jslick> I have several times.  I guess I abuse it though
2021-04-18T19:34:54 #kisslinux <acheam> you mirroring Wikipedia to your tmpfs?
2021-04-18T19:35:11 #kisslinux * midfavila closes their several Wikipedia tabs...
2021-04-18T19:36:05 #kisslinux <jslick> I can't remember.  I was probably untarring stuff and building code in /tmp
2021-04-18T19:39:55 #kisslinux <aarng> easy to fill up tmpfs if you only have 4GB of ram and build firefox + deps
2021-04-18T19:50:46 #kisslinux <thermatix> solved the problem!
2021-04-18T19:50:56 #kisslinux <thermatix> turns out there wasn't a `/tmp` folder :P
2021-04-18T19:52:16 #kisslinux <acheam> that'd do it!
2021-04-18T19:54:46 #kisslinux <thermatix> i think i have another problem
2021-04-18T19:54:55 #kisslinux <thermatix> my proc folder's empty
2021-04-18T19:55:04 #kisslinux <thermatix> so things like fdisk arn't working
2021-04-18T19:56:52 #kisslinux <thermatix> nvm
2021-04-18T19:56:53 #kisslinux <thermatix> fixed
2021-04-18T19:56:59 #kisslinux <thermatix> needed to manually mount it
2021-04-18T20:36:57 #kisslinux <thermatix> well this is problematic
2021-04-18T20:37:12 #kisslinux <thermatix> If i boot with UEFI then I can't boot via the USB stick
2021-04-18T20:37:31 #kisslinux <thermatix> but If I boot legacy then I can but then I can't setup UEFI for kiss
2021-04-18T20:41:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> this sounds like a win-win for me
2021-04-18T20:41:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> UEFI tribe bad
2021-04-18T20:41:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> BIOS tribe good
2021-04-18T20:42:08 #kisslinux <thermatix> I want UEFI
2021-04-18T20:42:16 #kisslinux <thermatix> but this laptop
2021-04-18T20:42:23 #kisslinux <midfavila> UEFI TRIBE BAD
2021-04-18T20:42:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> no discussion
2021-04-18T20:42:28 #kisslinux <thermatix> y?
2021-04-18T20:42:33 #kisslinux <thermatix> convince me
2021-04-18T20:43:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> because generally speaking it offers no practical benefits, especially to linux users. BIOS is simpler, and should be used unless there's an explicit need for one of UEFI's features
2021-04-18T20:43:22 #kisslinux * midfavila shrugs
2021-04-18T20:43:45 #kisslinux <thermatix> UEFI's features?
2021-04-18T20:44:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> big one is that it has secure boot
2021-04-18T20:44:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> which... is completely useless, in most situations...
2021-04-18T20:44:17 #kisslinux <thermatix> which I've turned off...
2021-04-18T20:44:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> another is that I believe BIOS eventually hits a limit for disks that it can recognize. don't quote me on that
2021-04-18T20:44:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> either way, that's also largely irrelevant, at least for now
2021-04-18T20:45:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> i don't know anyone who uses an 8TB drive or something like that in a laptop.
2021-04-18T20:45:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...I guess there's also the fact that UEFI can run executables of a specific format directly..?
2021-04-18T20:45:40 #kisslinux <thermatix> let me guess
2021-04-18T20:45:41 #kisslinux <midfavila> so if you've ever wanted to play DOOM without an OS, there you go
2021-04-18T20:45:43 #kisslinux <thermatix> not ELF
2021-04-18T20:45:48 #kisslinux <thermatix> lol
2021-04-18T20:45:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> i don't think it's elf, no
2021-04-18T20:46:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> pretty sure it's something microsoft was involved in
2021-04-18T20:46:17 #kisslinux <kiedtl> ELF has a lot of stuff that requires a full-blown OS to interpret it IIRC
2021-04-18T20:46:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> according to the osdev wiki it's basically a simplified windows executable
2021-04-18T20:46:30 #kisslinux <kiedtl> whereas DOS' COM files are just raw machine code
2021-04-18T20:46:39 #kisslinux <kiedtl> uuuuuhhhhhhh
2021-04-18T20:46:42 #kisslinux <kiedtl> are you sure about that
2021-04-18T20:47:08 #kisslinux <midfavila> literally just quoting the preview of its search result
2021-04-18T20:47:13 #kisslinux <kiedtl> like, generally speaking, yes, sort of
2021-04-18T20:47:23 #kisslinux <kiedtl> just like farbfeld is just a simplified version of png
2021-04-18T20:47:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> "UEFI executables are regular PE32 / PE32+ (Windows x32 / x64) images, with a specific subsystem. Every UEFI application is basically a windows EXE (or DLL) without symbol tables."
2021-04-18T20:48:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> https://wiki.osdev.org/UEFI
2021-04-18T20:49:09 #kisslinux <thermatix> which is all very un-linux-esq
2021-04-18T20:49:09 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Oh. I thought we were speaking ELF and Windows
2021-04-18T20:49:12 #kisslinux <thermatix> right?
2021-04-18T20:49:19 #kisslinux <kiedtl> nvm mid
2021-04-18T20:49:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> yes
2021-04-18T20:49:50 #kisslinux <thermatix> ok fine, is it possible to switch to bios boot?
2021-04-18T20:49:59 #kisslinux <thermatix> becuase I've forgotten how to set that up >_<
2021-04-18T20:50:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> just switch the boot mode to "Legacy boot"
2021-04-18T20:50:05 #kisslinux <kiedtl> It should be possible, check your bios settings
2021-04-18T20:50:06 #kisslinux <thermatix> no i mean the partitions stuff
2021-04-18T20:50:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> ah
2021-04-18T20:50:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's easy
2021-04-18T20:50:18 #kisslinux <thermatix> bios stuff I can do
2021-04-18T20:50:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> just make a /boot partition, dump your kernel and applicable bootloader configurations on there
2021-04-18T20:50:51 #kisslinux <midfavila> follow the BIOS install process for it (usually just foo-command --install /dev/sdx)
2021-04-18T20:50:53 #kisslinux <thermatix> and I mount it at /boot
2021-04-18T20:50:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> and then mark the partition as bootable using fdisk
2021-04-18T20:54:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> acheam sotd suggestion https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=2gv_Uil_62k
2021-04-18T21:30:22 #kisslinux <thermatix> I solved the EFI problem
2021-04-18T21:30:36 #kisslinux <thermatix> by switching to ubuntu
2021-04-18T21:30:39 #kisslinux <thermatix> also what's funny is that
2021-04-18T21:30:51 #kisslinux <thermatix> puppy linux worked with the touchpad no trouble, ubuntu don't
2021-04-18T21:31:01 #kisslinux <thermatix> ah, ok I lie, it's working now
2021-04-18T21:32:12 #kisslinux <acheam> thanks midfavila
2021-04-18T21:32:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> yw bby
2021-04-18T22:10:31 #kisslinux <acheam> oh its the anprim anthem again
2021-04-18T22:12:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's always time for the anprim anthem
2021-04-18T22:12:43 #kisslinux <acheam> holy crap that guy makes 31k off patreon
2021-04-18T22:12:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> internet shitposting can be very profitable
2021-04-18T22:21:37 #kisslinux <acheam> new song word
2021-04-18T22:21:45 #kisslinux <acheam> I hope this somewhat appeases you mid
2021-04-18T22:21:51 #kisslinux <midfavila> it does not
2021-04-18T22:21:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> i am displeased
2021-04-18T22:21:55 #kisslinux <acheam> too bad
2021-04-18T22:22:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> >:V
2021-04-18T22:22:02 #kisslinux <acheam> I have the @ in front of my name
2021-04-18T22:22:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> @sshole more like
2021-04-18T22:22:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> absolutely btfod
2021-04-18T22:22:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> but I suppose, just this once, I can settle
2021-04-18T22:22:50 #kisslinux <acheam> if you can settle, I can settle
2021-04-18T22:23:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=0tdyU_gW6WE
2021-04-18T22:23:34 #kisslinux <acheam> okaaaay
2021-04-18T22:23:36 #kisslinux <acheam> tomorrow
2021-04-18T22:25:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> thermatix: to make a UEFI linux usb you just do cat distro.iso > /dev/sdXY
2021-04-18T22:25:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> >make a uefi linux usb
2021-04-18T22:25:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> it doesn't matter either way
2021-04-18T22:25:56 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol
2021-04-18T22:25:58 #kisslinux <thermatix> I'm going to bed, g'night
2021-04-18T22:26:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> gngn
2021-04-18T22:26:10 #kisslinux <thermatix> also, switchign to ubuntu solved the issue :p
2021-04-18T22:26:22 #kisslinux <thermatix> s/switchign/switching/
2021-04-18T22:26:22 #kisslinux <movzbl> <thermatix> also, switching to ubuntu solved the issue :p
2021-04-18T22:31:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> guys i've done it
2021-04-18T22:31:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> I've been accused of spreading FUD
2021-04-18T22:31:17 #kisslinux <dilyn> I hope Dylan is proud of me :')
2021-04-18T22:31:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> welcome to the club
2021-04-18T22:31:42 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's great because you definitely spread more FUD than I do lmao
2021-04-18T22:32:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> but we're one in the same, mid
2021-04-18T22:32:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> FUD is a stupid term
2021-04-18T22:32:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's just a way to shut down your opponent without engaging with their arguments. smh
2021-04-18T22:32:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> how apt, that's exactly what they did :o
2021-04-18T22:32:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> it also reeks of reddit-tier bullshit
2021-04-18T22:32:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> right again!
2021-04-18T22:33:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> or, more accurately, HN
2021-04-18T22:33:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> I would never go there
2021-04-18T22:33:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> but HN is just reddit mixed with quora
2021-04-18T22:33:22 #kisslinux <acheam> hn isn't terrible
2021-04-18T22:33:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> and that's exactly why! mid is on point today
2021-04-18T22:33:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> i am ashamed to admit that I once had a quora account
2021-04-18T22:33:30 #kisslinux <acheam> at least its computer focuses
2021-04-18T22:33:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> hn is fucking awful acheam
2021-04-18T22:33:39 #kisslinux <acheam> its better than reddit
2021-04-18T22:33:41 #kisslinux <midfavila> the only worse site is lobste.rs
2021-04-18T22:33:44 #kisslinux <acheam> which isn't saying a lot
2021-04-18T22:33:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> >better than reddit
2021-04-18T22:33:46 #kisslinux <dilyn> any social place on the internet is bound to be awful
2021-04-18T22:33:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> exceptionally low bar
2021-04-18T22:33:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> *exceedingly* low
2021-04-18T22:33:54 #kisslinux <acheam> including here, dilyn
2021-04-18T22:33:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> well
2021-04-18T22:33:59 #kisslinux <dilyn> :v
2021-04-18T22:34:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> we admit we're trash
2021-04-18T22:34:00 #kisslinux <dilyn> i didn't say it
2021-04-18T22:34:03 #kisslinux <dilyn> ^
2021-04-18T22:34:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> so we're at least honest
2021-04-18T22:34:08 #kisslinux <midfavila> lmfao
2021-04-18T22:36:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> speaking of trash
2021-04-18T22:36:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> i don't want to cook
2021-04-18T22:36:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> should I order pizza or tendies
2021-04-18T22:36:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> i'm considering tendies ngl
2021-04-18T22:37:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> i'm doing pizza
2021-04-18T22:37:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> so to be different than me
2021-04-18T22:37:42 #kisslinux <dilyn> tendies
2021-04-18T22:38:34 #kisslinux <midfavila> you make a very good argument
2021-04-18T22:38:39 #kisslinux <acheam> i had pizza for lunch
2021-04-18T22:38:43 #kisslinux <acheam> so now neither of you can have it
2021-04-18T22:38:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> watch me >=|
2021-04-18T22:43:12 #kisslinux <kiedtl> >the only worse site is lobste.rs
2021-04-18T22:43:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> yes, kiedtl
2021-04-18T22:43:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> lobsters is dogshit
2021-04-18T22:43:27 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I'm here to give my opinions on lobsters, fite me midfavila!
2021-04-18T22:43:58 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Also, can I introduce you to 4chan
2021-04-18T22:44:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> the only bad boards on 4chan are /b/, /pol/, and /r9k/
2021-04-18T22:44:23 #kisslinux <midfavila> also /v/
2021-04-18T22:44:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> anyone who's been online for half a day knows this
2021-04-18T22:45:10 #kisslinux <kiedtl> >the only bad boards on 4chan
2021-04-18T22:45:27 #kisslinux <kiedtl> All of 4chan is flaming shit
2021-04-18T22:45:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> uh huh.
2021-04-18T22:45:46 #kisslinux <kiedtl> change my mind
2021-04-18T22:45:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> have you ever been on /wpg/
2021-04-18T22:46:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> they have some pretty great wallpapers
2021-04-18T22:46:14 #kisslinux <acheam> midfavila browses /hm/ confirmed
2021-04-18T22:46:19 #kisslinux <kiedtl> So there's this thing called unsplash, mid
2021-04-18T22:46:29 #kisslinux <kiedtl> You should check it out sometime >:P
2021-04-18T22:46:32 #kisslinux <acheam> there's also this thing called #000000
2021-04-18T22:46:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> i doubt either has my particular brand of autism available
2021-04-18T22:46:41 #kisslinux <kiedtl> #eeeeee is better!
2021-04-18T22:46:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> #FFFFFF?
2021-04-18T22:46:50 #kisslinux <acheam> light gray!?
2021-04-18T22:46:51 #kisslinux <acheam> why?
2021-04-18T22:46:57 #kisslinux <kiedtl> light themes! :>
2021-04-18T22:47:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> grey is the superior color
2021-04-18T22:47:05 #kisslinux <neeasade> light theme lovers unite
2021-04-18T22:47:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> s/superior/best/
2021-04-18T22:47:18 #kisslinux <movzbl> <midfavila> grey is the best color
2021-04-18T22:47:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> gotta be careful with the terminology here
2021-04-18T22:47:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> 4chan is a strange site. watching those boards evolve over the course of the years has been... unsettling
2021-04-18T22:47:50 #kisslinux <neeasade> where my #d5d6d7 fans at
2021-04-18T22:47:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> also
2021-04-18T22:47:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> flat light theme is garbage
2021-04-18T22:47:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> as is flat dark theme
2021-04-18T22:47:59 #kisslinux <dilyn> I miss good /b/. bring back anons and green text
2021-04-18T22:48:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> >good
2021-04-18T22:48:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> >b
2021-04-18T22:48:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> mfw
2021-04-18T22:48:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> b was never good
2021-04-18T22:48:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> lmfao
2021-04-18T22:48:38 #kisslinux <neeasade> oh dang dylanaraps is still AFK
2021-04-18T22:48:40 #kisslinux <neeasade> TIL
2021-04-18T22:48:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> unlikely that dylan will return
2021-04-18T22:48:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> f
2021-04-18T22:49:06 #kisslinux <neeasade> f
2021-04-18T22:49:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> everything was peaceful until the red hat nation attacked
2021-04-18T22:49:23 #kisslinux <neeasade> kiedtl: you are in the cuties club.
2021-04-18T22:49:23 #kisslinux <midfavila> so we called upon him... the ultimate meme man
2021-04-18T22:49:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> but when we needed him most, he vanished
2021-04-18T22:49:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> now, me and my friends have found a *new* meme man
2021-04-18T22:50:08 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...I need to rewatch Avatar some time. Good show.
2021-04-18T22:50:21 #kisslinux <kiedtl> neeasade: heh
2021-04-18T22:51:28 #kisslinux <midfavila> also,
2021-04-18T22:51:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> >unsplash
2021-04-18T22:51:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> >stock images
2021-04-18T22:51:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> no thanks
2021-04-18T22:51:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> i don't want hide the pain harold to greet me when I log in
2021-04-18T22:52:05 #kisslinux <acheam> ?
2021-04-18T22:52:13 #kisslinux <kiedtl> unsplash isn't fucked yet
2021-04-18T22:52:19 #kisslinux <acheam> unsplash is CC0 pretty much
2021-04-18T22:52:24 #kisslinux <kiedtl> but let's see what getty does to it in the next few years
2021-04-18T22:52:34 #kisslinux <midfavila> gonna stick with /wpg/
2021-04-18T22:53:10 #kisslinux <acheam> I can't find this wpg
2021-04-18T22:53:17 #kisslinux <neeasade> til of getty
2021-04-18T22:53:29 #kisslinux <neeasade> mostly I used tiled walls or a solid color from my theme
2021-04-18T22:53:50 #kisslinux <acheam> solid color is the way
2021-04-18T22:54:02 #kisslinux <acheam> xsetroot is love is life
2021-04-18T22:54:23 #kisslinux <midfavila> xsetBLOAT
2021-04-18T22:54:34 #kisslinux <acheam> bruh how do you set your *image* wallpapers
2021-04-18T22:54:42 #kisslinux <dilyn> images are the way
2021-04-18T22:54:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> xwallpaper.
2021-04-18T22:54:42 #kisslinux <acheam> is it through some crappy fvwmscript
2021-04-18T22:54:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> i mean, I could use fvwmscript
2021-04-18T22:55:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> fvwm-setroot is a thing
2021-04-18T22:55:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> but it's not a very good thing
2021-04-18T22:55:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> even thomas_adam admits that it's not... great.
2021-04-18T22:55:22 #kisslinux <acheam> blot
2021-04-18T22:55:25 #kisslinux <acheam> s/o/at
2021-04-18T22:55:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> blot
2021-04-18T22:55:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> lmao
2021-04-18T22:55:38 #kisslinux <neeasade> I connect to emacs every time I set my wallpaper
2021-04-18T22:55:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> letters are bloat now
2021-04-18T22:55:47 #kisslinux <neeasade> gave up the ghost on caring about the way™
2021-04-18T22:56:14 #kisslinux <aarng> #
2021-04-18T22:56:25 #kisslinux <aarng> #000000 is the best color
2021-04-18T22:56:31 #kisslinux <acheam> indeed
2021-04-18T22:56:33 #kisslinux <aarng> because it is default
2021-04-18T22:56:35 #kisslinux <acheam> a man of much wisdom here
2021-04-18T22:56:49 #kisslinux <aarng> #000000 least bloat confirmed
2021-04-18T22:57:18 #kisslinux <neeasade> I'm so glad we can solve these pressing issues once and for all
2021-04-18T22:57:21 #kisslinux <neeasade> good work chaps
2021-04-18T22:57:45 #kisslinux <aarng> glad I could help :)
2021-04-18T22:58:14 #kisslinux <acheam> I didn't need to help
2021-04-18T22:58:15 #kisslinux <kiedtl> lol
2021-04-18T22:58:19 #kisslinux <acheam> I knew my stance was right to begin with
2021-04-18T22:58:36 #kisslinux <acheam> I entered this discussion entirely unwaveringly
2021-04-18T22:58:43 #kisslinux <acheam> there would have been no compromise
2021-04-18T22:58:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> the absolute thad of a lad
2021-04-18T22:59:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> also,
2021-04-18T22:59:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> kiedtl
2021-04-18T22:59:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> if 4chan is so awful
2021-04-18T22:59:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> https://i.4cdn.org/v/1618769953146.png
2021-04-18T22:59:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> why does it have such adorable goats
2021-04-18T23:21:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> the weeb has a point, kiedtl
2021-04-18T23:22:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> weeb is my sub-class
2021-04-18T23:22:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> smh
2021-04-18T23:42:39 #kisslinux <acheam> what is your genus and species?
2021-04-18T23:44:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> Capra, C. aegagrus, thank you very much.
2021-04-18T23:50:15 #kisslinux <acheam> testuser_[m]: ah thanks for packaging cmark and chroma!
2021-04-18T23:50:46 #kisslinux <acheam> dilyn: in the future can we enforce better commit messages than this?
2021-04-18T23:50:47 #kisslinux <acheam> https://git.k1sslinux.org/community/commit/25b6b42bf9883d80e5bc5dd7a605b30d98c24ade.html
2021-04-18T23:51:35 #kisslinux <dilyn> like what?
2021-04-18T23:52:36 #kisslinux <acheam> according to the style guide shouldn't it be
2021-04-18T23:52:56 #kisslinux <acheam> s6 suite: bumped to 2.10.0.3
2021-04-18T23:52:58 #kisslinux <acheam> or similar
2021-04-18T23:53:17 #kisslinux <acheam> ehr actually they don't all go to that version
2021-04-18T23:53:27 #kisslinux <acheam> but still "
2021-04-18T23:53:29 #kisslinux <acheam> Pull requests should contain only a single package"
2021-04-18T23:54:26 #kisslinux <acheam> idk though, you're the BDFL :)