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2021-03-16T02:31:24 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> yay, no more svn https://github.com/rofl0r/svn-lite
2021-03-16T02:35:40 #kisslinux <jslick> neato.  I liked reading the build instructions
2021-03-16T02:36:10 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> :)
2021-03-16T02:37:42 #kisslinux <konimex> don't people use git-svn nowadays just to connect to svn repos? then again, I never used svn so there's that
2021-03-16T02:38:16 #kisslinux <travankor> svn, cvs, rcs -- why bother :)
2021-03-16T02:39:44 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> doesnt git-svn just call svn behind the scenes ?
2021-03-16T02:41:11 #kisslinux <konimex> no idea
2021-03-16T03:29:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> my VCS is dumping tarballs of source into individual directories sorted by release date
2021-03-16T03:29:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> get on my level, beta soydevs
2021-03-16T03:38:32 #kisslinux <acheam> https://i.imgur.com/ZksR1Kl.png
2021-03-16T03:48:47 #kisslinux <acheam> I thought that this was satire when I first saw it: https://github.com/emacs-ng/emacs-ng
2021-03-16T03:49:05 #kisslinux <acheam> "A new approach to Emacs - Including TypeScript, Threading, Async I/O, and WebRender."
2021-03-16T03:55:22 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> javascript
2021-03-16T03:59:45 #kisslinux <acheam> in *MY* emacs!?
2021-03-16T04:04:24 #kisslinux <travankor> emacs-ng is basically vscode
2021-03-16T04:05:15 #kisslinux <acheam> heck, I called my "nvim/emacs + LSP" setup "basically vscode" to my friends, nevermind the javascript and other cruft
2021-03-16T04:17:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> https://i.4cdn.org/g/1615814842844.jpg
2021-03-16T04:17:16 #kisslinux <midfavila> pictured: dylan vs ddevault
2021-03-16T04:28:26 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> hi
2021-03-16T04:29:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> bonjour mon ami
2021-03-16T04:30:56 #kisslinux <acheam> hey there testuser_[m]
2021-03-16T05:33:30 #kisslinux <protonesso> I heard toybox omo
2021-03-16T06:12:34 #kisslinux <midfavila1> toybox bad
2021-03-16T08:04:27 #kisslinux <travankor> protonesso: why you shilling for toybox ?
2021-03-16T08:48:50 #kisslinux <protonesso> Why toybox is bad
2021-03-16T08:49:01 #kisslinux <protonesso> travankor: why
2021-03-16T09:01:56 #kisslinux <travankor> android
2021-03-16T09:02:56 #kisslinux <travankor> toybox is run by google dweebs
2021-03-16T09:06:39 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> what's actually wrong with it
2021-03-16T09:08:46 #kisslinux <travankor> bash dependency
2021-03-16T09:09:10 #kisslinux <travankor> and it's still not complete despite being 10+ year old project
2021-03-16T09:09:20 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> hmm
2021-03-16T09:09:35 #kisslinux <travankor> just use sbase :P
2021-03-16T09:21:06 #kisslinux <travankor> https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/ctools
2021-03-16T09:21:34 #kisslinux <travankor> wow our bdfl has his own tools
2021-03-16T09:24:43 #kisslinux <travankor> https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/imrsh
2021-03-16T09:24:55 #kisslinux <travankor> and a shell
2021-03-16T12:13:17 #kisslinux <protonesso> travankor: meanwhile has better compatibly with gnu tools
2021-03-16T12:13:46 #kisslinux <protonesso> travankor: if you are fine with gtk segfaults then sure I'll use sbase
2021-03-16T12:14:05 #kisslinux <travankor> why it segfaults?
2021-03-16T12:14:42 #kisslinux <protonesso> Because sbase generates something wrong way
2021-03-16T12:14:56 #kisslinux <protonesso> I don't even want to debug it
2021-03-16T12:15:04 #kisslinux <travankor> gtk 3 or gtk 2?
2021-03-16T12:15:08 #kisslinux <protonesso> gtk3
2021-03-16T12:15:47 #kisslinux <travankor> protonesso: btw i thought you were using duncaen/lobase (openbsd)
2021-03-16T12:16:04 #kisslinux <protonesso> I do i forked it
2021-03-16T12:16:13 #kisslinux <protonesso> Updating it and adding tools i need
2021-03-16T12:16:21 #kisslinux <protonesso> ksh for example
2021-03-16T12:16:36 #kisslinux <protonesso> I'd use sed but it cannot compile Linux kernel
2021-03-16T12:17:08 #kisslinux <protonesso> sed which used in script is posix 2008 compatible
2021-03-16T12:19:41 #kisslinux <protonesso> If building full blown distro I'd never recommend sbase
2021-03-16T12:19:52 #kisslinux <protonesso> ubase? maybe
2021-03-16T12:21:12 #kisslinux <protonesso> Btw i really like --relative from gnu ln
2021-03-16T12:21:26 #kisslinux <protonesso> toybox has support for this which is nice
2021-03-16T12:25:41 #kisslinux <protonesso> Also selinux support
2021-03-16T12:27:34 #kisslinux <travankor> you're using selinux?
2021-03-16T12:28:28 #kisslinux <travankor> oasis linux or stali was using sbase
2021-03-16T12:28:35 #kisslinux <travankor> can't remember which
2021-03-16T12:34:32 #kisslinux <protonesso> travankor: i want to. I want to make policy stricter as possible
2021-03-16T12:50:24 #kisslinux <travankor> selinux too complex
2021-03-16T12:58:46 #kisslinux <travankor> ln -r useful but you could also have a separate tool that does that too
2021-03-16T13:13:21 #kisslinux <travankor> my picks for distro: 1) busybox 2) lobase (or netbsd utils) 3) sbase
2021-03-16T13:43:06 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Meh "picks for distro" is more of a distrohopper thing which is fashion/trend thing rather than practicality. There are really just a few gems and nothing else matters. We all know what we want. I just want to be able to swap kernel to different one which is ultimate goal. Minix uses NetBSD packages so if it supported x86_64 properly I'd at least tried it. I don't have OSHW board so it obviously wouldn't be without problems with my daily rig
2021-03-16T13:43:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> travankor: but you don't *need* bash :P
2021-03-16T13:49:20 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Why there no shell with core functionality and patch system to add a few bits user might need? Dash includes replacement for echo and some other commands for "speed". Cringe. Besides its not really practical
2021-03-16T13:50:45 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> so like a suckless shell
2021-03-16T13:50:52 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Yeah exactly
2021-03-16T13:52:40 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Hmm yeah I'd like such a shell too, just need the stuff it shows when you press TAB
2021-03-16T13:52:56 #kisslinux <travankor> nxghtmvrx: mrsh
2021-03-16T13:53:46 #kisslinux <travankor> nxghtmvrx: Minix does support x86_64?
2021-03-16T13:53:51 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> I've been searching for basic shell forever. There are few writeups and how-tos and few unfinished things
2021-03-16T13:54:44 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Not really. They had some groundwork done but there's no commits like in two years so RIP I guess
2021-03-16T13:55:37 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Yeah mrsh is the most fitting one but we'll see. Still wip
2021-03-16T13:55:56 #kisslinux <travankor> it mostly works
2021-03-16T13:56:23 #kisslinux <travankor> minix is the os on Intel ME so it should work
2021-03-16T13:57:13 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Isn't IME on ARM chip like AMD PSP?
2021-03-16T13:59:11 #kisslinux <travankor> it's i386
2021-03-16T14:04:57 #kisslinux <soliwilos> The utilities in ctools are tiny, going to try them out.
2021-03-16T14:41:21 #kisslinux <acheam> yeah, they're especially good to integrate into other programs that need the functionality
2021-03-16T14:42:05 #kisslinux <acheam> it'd be nice if there were a few more of them though
2021-03-16T15:50:46 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> interesting, i got a quite similar project https://github.com/rofl0r/hardcore-utils
2021-03-16T15:50:56 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> however there's some more stuff mixed in
2021-03-16T15:51:32 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> it's basically "some standard, standalone POSIX utilities plus some more random stuff"
2021-03-16T15:57:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> everybody wants to write their own utilities but nobody wants to write a depmod smh
2021-03-16T16:00:18 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> heh https://github.com/libtom/libtomcrypt/pull/563 seems the chinese dont trust USA/NSA-developed crypto - they want their own crypto with backdoors only they themselves know
2021-03-16T16:02:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> they link to the standard they're referring to but all the docs for it are in chinese xD
2021-03-16T16:52:26 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> I think this is great alternative for Thinkpad(even if its ARM). Everything is open source(HW, software) and keyboard on low-profile mechanical switches https://invidious.zee.li/watch?v=cxcB45K-24k
2021-03-16T16:54:59 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Oh lol there already were mention of it. Should've checked earlier
2021-03-16T17:11:24 #kisslinux <varbhat> but,overpriced
2021-03-16T17:11:35 #kisslinux <varbhat> better buy ThinkPad
2021-03-16T17:14:19 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> You could get parts without relying on their chain :p
2021-03-16T17:18:38 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Hi guys
2021-03-16T17:18:56 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Sup hellboy2d
2021-03-16T17:19:08 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> mpv with youtube-dl needs some scripts?
2021-03-16T17:19:33 #kisslinux <acheam> hi hellboy2d
2021-03-16T17:19:38 #kisslinux <acheam> no
2021-03-16T17:19:39 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> I've been told that you can specify youtube link directly to mpv
2021-03-16T17:19:43 #kisslinux <acheam> just "mpv youtube-url"
2021-03-16T17:20:03 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> wierd
2021-03-16T17:20:08 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> its not works
2021-03-16T17:20:21 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> i just copy and paste
2021-03-16T17:20:30 #kisslinux <acheam> like this? "mpv https://youtu.be/cxcB45K-24k"?
2021-03-16T17:20:32 #kisslinux <acheam> thats weird
2021-03-16T17:20:38 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Yep
2021-03-16T17:20:39 #kisslinux <acheam> do you have youtube-dl installed?
2021-03-16T17:20:44 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> use youtube.com not shortened one
2021-03-16T17:20:45 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> yep
2021-03-16T17:20:54 #kisslinux <acheam> they both work nxghtmvrx
2021-03-16T17:20:59 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> ah k
2021-03-16T17:21:15 #kisslinux <acheam> any youtube-dl compatabile url (which extends far beyond just YouTube BTW) will be okay
2021-03-16T17:21:37 #kisslinux <acheam> youtube-dl works on almost every website I try it on
2021-03-16T17:21:55 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> it says failed to recognize file format
2021-03-16T17:22:09 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Yeah I should switch to mpv some day without scripting stuff with ffplay and youtube-dl myself
2021-03-16T17:22:15 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> maybe lib missing?
2021-03-16T17:22:16 #kisslinux <acheam> can you post the full message, hellboy2d?
2021-03-16T17:22:20 #kisslinux <acheam> that sounds likely
2021-03-16T17:23:49 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> i tried for example
2021-03-16T17:23:56 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> "mpv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOqkutYYfpA"
2021-03-16T17:24:07 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> says
2021-03-16T17:24:09 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Failed to recognize file format.
2021-03-16T17:24:17 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Exiting... (Errors when loading file)
2021-03-16T17:32:00 #kisslinux <aarng> install lua
2021-03-16T17:32:34 #kisslinux <aarng> can't remember if mpv has to be recompiled then
2021-03-16T17:33:41 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> gosh
2021-03-16T17:33:47 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> lua failed to build
2021-03-16T17:40:02 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> make: *** [Makefile:59: install] Error 1
2021-03-16T17:40:08 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> anyone had this?
2021-03-16T17:44:30 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> send the full log..
2021-03-16T18:07:48 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> lua build log
2021-03-16T18:07:50 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> http://ix.io/2T55
2021-03-16T18:21:41 #kisslinux <claudia02> luajait does also work for youtube-dl/mpv/ffmpeg
2021-03-16T18:27:47 #kisslinux <claudia02> This modular laptop supports interchangeable single cells for fix the battery. This is really nice. Also they claim to use lifepo4 cells which though they have not fewer Wh thant lipo(especially in 18650), they hardly catch any fire :D.
2021-03-16T18:29:30 #kisslinux <claudia02> *lifepo4 has fewer Wh thant lipo.
2021-03-16T18:30:30 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> hellboy2d you're probably using some other coreutils whose install cmd doesn't support their flags
2021-03-16T18:30:44 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> switch to busybox temporarily for install i guess
2021-03-16T18:32:46 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> yeah thats it
2021-03-16T18:33:30 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> but mpv still not running urls
2021-03-16T18:37:29 #kisslinux <claudia02> I would love to see an laptop open hardware platform where the mainboard is interchangeable with cheap standard SBC from the market. But otherwise designwise like the MNT one. Especially the battery.
2021-03-16T18:44:43 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> can someone view my mpv log?
2021-03-16T18:44:54 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> http://ix.io/2T5f
2021-03-16T19:07:17 #kisslinux <dilyn> why on earth would mpv use install -p
2021-03-16T19:07:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> `unrecognized file format` looks concerning
2021-03-16T19:09:50 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> what can i do boss?
2021-03-16T19:10:27 #kisslinux <claudia02> hellboy2d: have u tried to install luajit and rebuild mpv / ffmpeg?
2021-03-16T19:11:30 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> i do now
2021-03-16T19:22:37 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> now works
2021-03-16T19:22:43 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> thanks
2021-03-16T19:24:11 #kisslinux <claudia02> hellboy2d: yibbieh.
2021-03-16T19:24:41 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> compile webkitgtk is hard?
2021-03-16T19:25:01 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> I tried the webkitgtk in the repo of community for surf
2021-03-16T19:25:13 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> But surf works horrible
2021-03-16T19:31:08 #kisslinux <claudia02> hellboy2d: this is webkit without adblocking. Try wyebadblock from community for adblocking.
2021-03-16T19:31:23 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> oh no its not it
2021-03-16T19:31:46 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> my surf with it can open some sites like duckduckgo
2021-03-16T19:32:26 #kisslinux <claudia02> host = irc.freenode.org
2021-03-16T19:32:26 #kisslinux <claudia02> join = #openbsd
2021-03-16T19:32:26 #kisslinux <claudia02> nick = mr_veink
2021-03-16T19:32:30 #kisslinux <claudia02> ahhhh
2021-03-16T19:33:53 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> since this chan is logged, your fake nick is now tainted for eternity
2021-03-16T19:33:58 #kisslinux <jslick> lolz
2021-03-16T19:34:05 #kisslinux <claudia02> :2021-03-16T19:35:14 #kisslinux <claudia02> On good thing about "featurefull" terminals like xfce4-terminal is that it warns you before pasting stuff.
2021-03-16T19:35:44 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> i'm pasting all the time, this would nag the hell out of me
2021-03-16T19:36:51 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> standard procedure is to open a doc in leafpad (tk+2) which has gtk+x11 clipboard, then select stuff/code and paste it into terminal editor
2021-03-16T19:36:52 #kisslinux <claudia02> y. This is xterm and it really likes middle click.
2021-03-16T19:37:08 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> that way tabs are preserved
2021-03-16T19:37:19 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> unlike selecting text in another term
2021-03-16T19:39:29 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> the select / middle-mouse paste mechanism of X11 is a lot nicer than the select+CTRL-c+target+CTRL-v dance imo
2021-03-16T19:39:42 #kisslinux <aarng> treat middle click like a loaded gun
2021-03-16T19:40:27 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> well, my IRC client doesnt send pasted stuff right away
2021-03-16T19:40:30 #kisslinux <aarng> primary selection definitely is nice
2021-03-16T19:40:36 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> only after you hit the physical enter button
2021-03-16T19:41:04 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> if the pasted text contains line break, it displays that as a 0x10 char in the text input box
2021-03-16T19:41:21 #kisslinux <aarng> neat
2021-03-16T19:41:32 #kisslinux <jslick> time to fork xterm and add a confirmation paste
2021-03-16T19:41:36 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> uh, 0x0a actually
2021-03-16T19:42:04 #kisslinux <aarng> I would hate using the primary selection because of wayland
2021-03-16T19:42:09 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> the irc client i use is an xchat2 fork btw
2021-03-16T19:42:34 #kisslinux <aarng> s/using/losing/
2021-03-16T19:42:36 #kisslinux <kissbot> <aarng> I would hate losing the primary selection because of wayland
2021-03-16T19:46:12 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> *shrug* I treat middle click like it doesn't exist
2021-03-16T19:46:14 #kisslinux <aarng> sh4rm4^bnc: it's not hexchat, is it
2021-03-16T19:46:28 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> nah, ixchat, my own fork
2021-03-16T19:46:41 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> i dont like the icon stuff of hexchat
2021-03-16T19:46:43 #kisslinux <aarng> I see
2021-03-16T19:46:54 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> an irc client needs to look old school
2021-03-16T19:47:14 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> not like a fucking android app
2021-03-16T19:47:25 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Green font on black screen is oldschool enough for being coolhacker?
2021-03-16T19:47:31 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> eek
2021-03-16T19:47:40 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> i do value my eyes
2021-03-16T19:48:45 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> I don't see what's wrong with green font. Easy to see as long as it's bright outside. Not really for night use IMO but otherwise great
2021-03-16T19:48:53 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> my terminal color scheme looks like the code window here https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/341425/111042524-ae757b00-8435-11eb-9dcf-c09fea159ed1.png
2021-03-16T19:49:31 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> it's more like stuff on black background tends to burn the text into your retina
2021-03-16T19:50:38 #kisslinux <aarng> black background is fine with lower contrast
2021-03-16T19:51:22 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> yeah but not with a matrix like green foreground color
2021-03-16T19:52:28 #kisslinux <aarng> oh yeah, that's awful
2021-03-16T19:52:43 #kisslinux <aarng> https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/6799467/81230916-01eb9100-8ffb-11ea-87c7-1333ac3d1753.png
2021-03-16T19:52:49 #kisslinux <aarng> my default foreground color
2021-03-16T19:54:04 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Not really "burn the text into retina" I'd say. Its nice for as long as there's sun outside. If its dark and there's no natural light source its hard for me to see stuff with "matrix" colorscheme. It wasn't that bad when I set it so my problems. Probably need to change it to white or something
2021-03-16T19:54:27 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> is this a wm? aarng
2021-03-16T19:54:48 #kisslinux <aarng> that's just tmux
2021-03-16T19:55:10 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> i see
2021-03-16T19:55:59 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> 49.20 MB/s ? holy crap
2021-03-16T19:56:48 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Why not mtm tho?
2021-03-16T19:57:27 #kisslinux <aarng> oh, that's just disk speed, my net isn't that fast
2021-03-16T19:58:40 #kisslinux <aarng> mtm is too rudimentary
2021-03-16T19:59:17 #kisslinux <aarng> I actually use tmux features like searching in the scrollback
2021-03-16T19:59:21 #kisslinux <aarng> and tabs
2021-03-16T20:01:40 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Ah I see. Never really used tmux as the delay is really noticeable for me so was interested to know
2021-03-16T20:03:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> 49MB/s is your DISK speed??
2021-03-16T20:03:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> what is this 1997
2021-03-16T20:03:41 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> lol
2021-03-16T20:04:03 #kisslinux <aarng> lmao
2021-03-16T20:04:25 #kisslinux <aarng> it's a ssd, no idea wtf kiss is doing
2021-03-16T20:04:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> wow alright so that should be illegal
2021-03-16T20:04:46 #kisslinux <aarng> what is it that's actually showing progress like that
2021-03-16T20:07:01 #kisslinux <aarng> oh another thing, nxghtmvrx
2021-03-16T20:07:19 #kisslinux <aarng> being able to select and copy text with only keyboard is pretty neat too
2021-03-16T20:07:27 #kisslinux <aarng> mtm dropped the ball on that
2021-03-16T20:07:41 #kisslinux <aarng> they should have used something external for scrollback like dvtm
2021-03-16T20:08:16 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> So is it possible to copy by using only keyboard with tmux?
2021-03-16T20:08:32 #kisslinux <aarng> yes, of course
2021-03-16T20:09:09 #kisslinux <aarng> I used to literally unplug my mouse when I still used qutebrowser
2021-03-16T20:09:29 #kisslinux <aarng> not because "mouse sucks reee"
2021-03-16T20:09:46 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> I'm almost sold then. There's st patch in Luke's build for that but I use near stock terminal so probably will try
2021-03-16T20:09:50 #kisslinux <aarng> but it's pretty nice being able to lean back in your chair with keyboard on your lap
2021-03-16T20:10:34 #kisslinux <aarng> s/on/in/
2021-03-16T20:10:35 #kisslinux <kissbot> <aarng> but it's pretty nice being able to lean back in your chair with keyboard in your lap
2021-03-16T20:10:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> don't put things inside your lap
2021-03-16T20:11:03 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> The thing is my mouse died not long ago. So I bought new one in nearby store and there's really bright RGB that's burning my eyes so I rather unplug it too or set in powertop to disable it
2021-03-16T20:11:04 #kisslinux <aarng> I try
2021-03-16T20:11:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> o.O
2021-03-16T20:11:31 #kisslinux <aarng> tmux works everywhere
2021-03-16T20:11:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> i'm about to join the rgb puke master race
2021-03-16T20:11:44 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Its cheap mouse so no configuration or even physical switch to disable
2021-03-16T20:11:49 #kisslinux <dilyn> even my keyboard is gonna be lined with it...
2021-03-16T20:11:52 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> I hate rgb
2021-03-16T20:11:54 #kisslinux <aarng> much better to have terminal agnostic scrollback and selection
2021-03-16T20:12:20 #kisslinux <aarng> yeah, I regret buying a backlit keyboard
2021-03-16T20:12:52 #kisslinux <dilyn> backlighting is mandatory
2021-03-16T20:13:00 #kisslinux <dilyn> lights out == hacker mode activated
2021-03-16T20:13:03 #kisslinux <dilyn> gotta see them keys tho
2021-03-16T20:13:05 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> nxghtmvrx, unscrew, unplug
2021-03-16T20:13:07 #kisslinux <aarng> haha
2021-03-16T20:13:16 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> The only thing I want to have backlight is my keboard. I set it to minimum so its easy to spot it in the dark and stuff. Everything else must not have any lighting
2021-03-16T20:13:46 #kisslinux <aarng> that's fine it's just that more often than not backlight means shitty spray painted key caps
2021-03-16T20:14:01 #kisslinux <aarng> and the coating rubs off quite fast
2021-03-16T20:14:09 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> I wanted to disassemble it but there's some weird proprietary screw that won't rotate no matter how much force I apply
2021-03-16T20:15:31 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> anyone uses tui tube?
2021-03-16T20:20:36 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> I used something similar. I think it was named differently but pretty much the same thing
2021-03-16T20:21:01 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> yeah i think i see it in reddit
2021-03-16T20:21:06 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Whats the name?
2021-03-16T20:21:27 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> I liked the idea of tui tube but is not the best
2021-03-16T20:22:24 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Give me a moment. I'll reboot in my trash Manjaro setup
2021-03-16T20:26:43 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> mps-youtube/mpsyt
2021-03-16T20:26:50 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> thanks
2021-03-16T20:28:58 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Its a bit slow to load but that's expected from python. Otherwise its great
2021-03-16T20:29:13 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> i found the one of reddit
2021-03-16T20:29:20 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> ytfzf
2021-03-16T20:29:26 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> i seens great
2021-03-16T20:34:55 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> There's lots nice tools for youtube like ytcc to track channels and stuff. Why would anyone use if you can just use RSS? Unless you don't want to use RSS maybe
2021-03-16T20:35:14 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> s/nice/of nice/
2021-03-16T20:35:15 #kisslinux <kissbot> <nxghtmvrx> There's lots of nice tools for youtube like ytcc to track channels and stuff. Why would anyone use if you can just use RSS? Unless you don't want to use RSS maybe
2021-03-16T20:36:29 #kisslinux <acheam> fun fact: the `rename` command lets you rename files based on regexes
2021-03-16T20:36:33 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> what is RSS?
2021-03-16T20:36:56 #kisslinux <acheam> a standardized web feed format
2021-03-16T20:37:14 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=hMH9w6pyzvU
2021-03-16T20:37:24 #kisslinux <acheam> see: https://armaanb.net/rss.xml, https://old.reddit.com/r/kisslinux.rss, etc
2021-03-16T20:42:55 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> lukes channel had gold
2021-03-16T20:46:49 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Yeah probably best *nix channel. Not these useless ones like Distrotube and Chris Titus Tech and whatnot out there
2021-03-16T20:46:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> i've never found rss... nice to use
2021-03-16T20:49:02 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> I like mental outlaw too
2021-03-16T20:49:11 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Remembers Luke Smith sometimes
2021-03-16T20:50:18 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> To be honest he made crapload of videos in like half of year or something. His early ones were really nice which I can't really say about recent
2021-03-16T20:50:39 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> So I don't check Mental Outlaw that much
2021-03-16T21:01:09 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> youtube has rss still?
2021-03-16T21:01:27 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Of course. Its just hidden
2021-03-16T21:02:35 #kisslinux <acheam> yep, I use it every day
2021-03-16T21:02:37 #kisslinux <acheam> via Freetube
2021-03-16T21:04:20 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Same with newsboat/sfeed
2021-03-16T21:17:10 #kisslinux <jslick> CTT: I think that was the guy that kept repeating "distro doesn't matter" (usually without even explaining what he means), then the next thing he'd say would incidentally counter that statement in some way.
2021-03-16T21:17:58 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Same with Distrotube
2021-03-16T21:21:40 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Really *nix channels are cringe. There's really almost nothing to check besides checking every spin/distro and rewrite of anything in Rust and etc. Distrotube bug Rust fanboy
2021-03-16T21:22:10 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> s/bug/big/
2021-03-16T21:22:11 #kisslinux <kissbot> <nxghtmvrx> Really *nix channels are cringe. There's really almost nothing to check besides checking every spin/distro and rewrite of anything in Rust and etc. Distrotube big Rust fanboy
2021-03-16T21:27:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah a lot of distro reviews end up just being DE reviews and it's very confusing
2021-03-16T21:30:17 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> "Here's how the windows look", "here's how to open and type in terminal", "here's how file manager looks" lol
2021-03-16T21:33:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> "My linux is best linux because total control" *installs one package and its 200 dependencies*
2021-03-16T21:33:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> smells like kringe
2021-03-16T21:33:29 #kisslinux <dilyn> "it's just so much more lightweight than windows" *opens one of their seventeen electron apps*
2021-03-16T21:34:24 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Yeah I've seen that Distrotube showed in one of his videos that he has 1500+ installed packages
2021-03-16T21:34:39 #kisslinux <midfavila> DT is just diet luke smith
2021-03-16T21:34:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> and CTT is just reddit-tier DT
2021-03-16T21:35:08 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Nah DT is total nonsense. Luke's videos at least useful
2021-03-16T21:35:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> I'll take boomer rants over cmatrix running on every screen in the background lowkey
2021-03-16T21:35:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> "Vim macros for fundamentalist catholics"
2021-03-16T21:35:29 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> ^^
2021-03-16T21:35:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> hrng
2021-03-16T21:35:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> ngl the title got a giggle out of me
2021-03-16T21:35:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> is that a real video
2021-03-16T21:35:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> yes
2021-03-16T21:36:03 #kisslinux <dilyn> end me
2021-03-16T21:36:05 #kisslinux <dilyn> i have died
2021-03-16T21:36:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> and in it he talks about advanced formatting via vim macros
2021-03-16T21:36:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> while manipulating, well, biblical texts or some shit
2021-03-16T21:36:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> idk
2021-03-16T21:36:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> funnee boom-boom do computer
2021-03-16T21:36:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> mfw he's building templeOS 2.0
2021-03-16T21:37:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> >LARBS
2021-03-16T21:37:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> >templeOS 2.0
2021-03-16T21:37:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> no
2021-03-16T21:37:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> not even
2021-03-16T21:37:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> do not insult the good name of Saint Davis
2021-03-16T21:37:22 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Nah he's arch fanboy. Too much effort for him
2021-03-16T21:37:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> doesn't even run things in ring zero smh
2021-03-16T21:38:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> in all seriousness though I do think luke's videos have educational value to them, especially his stuff on sed and awk programming
2021-03-16T21:38:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> awk in particular is... dense, to say the least
2021-03-16T21:39:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> having a no-nonsense intro to it is appreciated
2021-03-16T21:39:59 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Luke is a beam of light for zoomers/noobs. There's a lot of stuff if you never had experience with those things he explains and etc the right way unlike what you can find in google search
2021-03-16T21:41:05 #kisslinux <acheam> if you can move past the white supremacy then sure
2021-03-16T21:41:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> lmao
2021-03-16T21:41:37 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> i lost when i see Vim macros for fundamentalist catholics
2021-03-16T21:41:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> pics or stfu acheam
2021-03-16T21:42:05 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> So you watch Mental Outlaw then :p
2021-03-16T21:42:16 #kisslinux <midfavila> MO is p based
2021-03-16T21:42:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> although some of his "distro reviews" are shit
2021-03-16T21:42:50 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Mental Outlaw is just Luke with gentoo more light
2021-03-16T21:42:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> MO is babby luke
2021-03-16T21:43:00 #kisslinux <acheam> midfavila: I don't remember which videos its in but he clearly shows him flying a confederate flag in one of them that i've watched
2021-03-16T21:43:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> incredible
2021-03-16T21:43:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...are you fucking serious? lmao
2021-03-16T21:43:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> gentoo is cancelled i guess
2021-03-16T21:43:39 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> His kernel configuration was nice... and that's it I guess
2021-03-16T21:43:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> he has a flag in his memorabilia room
2021-03-16T21:43:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> and that's it
2021-03-16T21:44:06 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Especially last MA videos just news on mining and stuff
2021-03-16T21:44:06 #kisslinux <acheam> nope this was like out on his porch
2021-03-16T21:44:15 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> mental and luke is basically the same in ideas
2021-03-16T21:44:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> either way, that's not muh hwite supreemcy
2021-03-16T21:44:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...and even if it was his videos are still good shit
2021-03-16T21:44:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol
2021-03-16T21:45:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> m e h
2021-03-16T21:45:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> https://github.com/kiss-community/repo-community/issues/217 my golang PR to fix this problem seems to be approved :o
2021-03-16T21:45:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> how exciting
2021-03-16T21:45:27 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> real chads watch hex dsl
2021-03-16T21:45:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> thanks google
2021-03-16T21:45:58 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> He's just talkie talk, no? What's there interesting he covered?
2021-03-16T21:46:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> luke, MO, or..?
2021-03-16T21:46:25 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Hex
2021-03-16T21:46:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've never even heard of him
2021-03-16T21:46:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> he likes gnome
2021-03-16T21:46:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> so he immediately goes in the garbage
2021-03-16T21:47:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> opinion: discarded
2021-03-16T21:47:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> looks like he talks a lot about suckless stuff and gemini
2021-03-16T21:47:43 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> i heard about gemini with him
2021-03-16T21:47:50 #kisslinux <acheam> midfavila: explain how flying the flag of a 150 year old failed rebellion formed on the basis of slavery and opression, and very commmonly used as a modern symbol of white supremacy is not showing support for it?
2021-03-16T21:48:07 #kisslinux <jslick> Not necessarily proof of supremacy, but his video on setting up a website was on Epik, and with an affiliate link
2021-03-16T21:48:36 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> mental is too privacy boomer so i learned a little about privacy web
2021-03-16T21:48:41 #kisslinux <midfavila> i'm not even an american and I know that that's a very simplified view of the history surrounding the southern states
2021-03-16T21:49:03 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> not me too
2021-03-16T21:49:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> if he wants to stick an old rag on a stick i don't really care
2021-03-16T21:49:14 #kisslinux <acheam> midfavila: even disregarding the history, look at the moden usage of the symbol
2021-03-16T21:49:21 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> i only know americans says brazillians are monkeys in chats
2021-03-16T21:49:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> by that logic I can't enjoy pepe memes
2021-03-16T21:49:27 #kisslinux <jslick> I've bought steam games based on some of hex's videos.  He just needs to turn his damn mic up
2021-03-16T21:49:28 #kisslinux <midfavila> or doc martens
2021-03-16T21:50:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> the logic of "well such and such uses $THING so if you use $THING you must support such and such" is weak
2021-03-16T21:50:36 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> hex speaks like he eating something when talk
2021-03-16T21:50:53 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> For "privacy web" just check privacytools.io
2021-03-16T21:50:57 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Nothing else matters
2021-03-16T21:51:00 #kisslinux <acheam> its flying a flag... theres no other meaning to it than to say you support the thing the flag represents
2021-03-16T21:51:07 #kisslinux <acheam> +1 for privacytools.io
2021-03-16T21:51:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> people ascribe different things to said flag
2021-03-16T21:51:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> if I cared to find out what he believed in I'd write him an email asking
2021-03-16T21:51:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> for example, look at the swastika
2021-03-16T21:52:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> if europeans or americans enter a hundred meter radius of one they immediately fly into a berserk rage
2021-03-16T21:52:23 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> firefox in privacytools
2021-03-16T21:52:25 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> joke
2021-03-16T21:52:34 #kisslinux <midfavila> but in a lot of asian countries they have totally different reactions and beliefs surrounding the symbol
2021-03-16T21:53:02 #kisslinux <acheam> as someone from one of those asian countries, who has objects in their home decorated with the swastika, let me try and explain the difference.
2021-03-16T21:53:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah, I know that there's more to it
2021-03-16T21:53:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> but my point is that the same symbol can mean different things to diffrent people
2021-03-16T21:54:13 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Firefox in privacytools isn't joke. Configured myself by their writings like year ago. Bunch of extensions and about:config changes
2021-03-16T21:54:55 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> yeah with this make more privacy
2021-03-16T21:54:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> s/diffrent/different/
2021-03-16T21:54:59 #kisslinux <kissbot> <midfavila> but my point is that the same symbol can mean different things to different people
2021-03-16T21:55:00 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> but just firefox no
2021-03-16T21:55:07 #kisslinux <acheam> sure that's true. And maybe to Luke, the confederate flag carries positive meanings of freedom, family values, etc. However, that does not excuse the fact that the most common use of that flag in 2021 is to express supremist views
2021-03-16T21:55:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> who cares?
2021-03-16T21:55:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> the problem with the  confederate battle flag is that the analysis people give of it bottoms out at 'heritage and freedom', and it certainly goes deeper.
2021-03-16T21:55:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> ANYWAYS
2021-03-16T21:55:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> even if he held those Bad Beliefs:tm:, short of him forcing those on other people or acting in a hostile manner, it literally doesn't matter
2021-03-16T21:55:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> hellboy2d: have you tried firefox-privacy?
2021-03-16T21:56:00 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> yep
2021-03-16T21:56:02 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> i use
2021-03-16T21:56:08 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> i used librewolf in gentoo
2021-03-16T21:56:13 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> quite the same
2021-03-16T21:56:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> ah
2021-03-16T21:56:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah I don't really get why people shill for librewolf
2021-03-16T21:56:43 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> is just because is easy
2021-03-16T21:56:51 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> like install a patch in kiss
2021-03-16T21:56:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you want easy just use google tech idk
2021-03-16T21:56:57 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> firefox-privacy
2021-03-16T21:57:17 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> librewolf had searx by default
2021-03-16T21:57:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> sure, but was it a trustworthy instance?
2021-03-16T21:57:53 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> maybe
2021-03-16T21:58:07 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> but i just used it in few times
2021-03-16T21:58:12 #kisslinux * midfavila shrugs
2021-03-16T21:58:18 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> i like more surf
2021-03-16T21:58:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> i find I only really visit a few sites so I don't even bother with search engines any more
2021-03-16T21:58:35 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> gaves less information in deviceinfo.me
2021-03-16T21:58:50 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> i need the search engines
2021-03-16T21:59:04 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> college gaves me a lot of question
2021-03-16T21:59:13 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> sucks search in duckduckgo sometimes
2021-03-16T21:59:15 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> or searx
2021-03-16T21:59:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> qwant is the way
2021-03-16T21:59:39 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> whogle is the way
2021-03-16T21:59:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> i need to put more work into my fingerprinting resistance
2021-03-16T22:00:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> i had a userscript that would fuck with the size of the <canvas> on pageload but it was absolutely destroying browser performance
2021-03-16T22:00:38 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> I don't see a point in librewolf existence. If you want firefox done right- there's waterfox
2021-03-16T22:00:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah that site you mentioned fails to detect pretty much everything on my browser
2021-03-16T22:00:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> neat
2021-03-16T22:01:15 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> waterfox is not the best
2021-03-16T22:01:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> pale moon is best
2021-03-16T22:01:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> fight me
2021-03-16T22:01:32 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Pale moon lags as hell
2021-03-16T22:01:39 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> pale moon is good buts lags man
2021-03-16T22:01:41 #kisslinux <midfavila> on JS-heavy sites yeah
2021-03-16T22:01:41 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> it lags
2021-03-16T22:02:03 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> On 12 threads cpu its problematic to even load it without opening any pages
2021-03-16T22:02:19 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> What's wrong with it
2021-03-16T22:02:27 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> if surf is not too poor in some aspects i just use it
2021-03-16T22:02:39 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> but read reddit with surf is a pain
2021-03-16T22:02:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> pale moon runs in single-process mode and it has a poor JS interpreter
2021-03-16T22:02:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> so if you run a lot of sites with tons of JS it lags badly
2021-03-16T22:02:58 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> guys just use tor
2021-03-16T22:03:01 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> tor is the way
2021-03-16T22:04:04 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> search in web with whoonix in vm and tor browser with searx in onion domain
2021-03-16T22:04:10 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> transcend
2021-03-16T22:05:19 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> doh that's dumb
2021-03-16T22:05:24 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Tor is compromised
2021-03-16T22:06:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> yesn't
2021-03-16T22:06:31 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> It is possible to track you because of your entry node or whatever they call that server
2021-03-16T22:06:39 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's likely there are a fair number of end-nodes controlled by three-letters, but you shouldn't be relying on just tor anyway
2021-03-16T22:07:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you're going to route through a network like that, you should at least use I2P or something
2021-03-16T22:10:20 #kisslinux <acheam> new song of the day!
2021-03-16T22:10:36 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> yay
2021-03-16T22:19:28 #kisslinux <betimsl> hi all, printer is not showing on print dialog even though I printed the test page from the cups -- any ideas?
2021-03-16T22:19:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> check permissions
2021-03-16T22:20:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've never used a printer on unix systems but permissions always end up being the issue for everything
2021-03-16T22:20:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> at least for me
2021-03-16T22:22:23 #kisslinux <betimsl> permissions of what? I assume this could be an issue with dbus and gtk
2021-03-16T22:24:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> dev node
2021-03-16T22:24:10 #kisslinux <betimsl> btw I got the intel driver running with rootless xorg :) -- no screen tearing for me anymore, no sir
2021-03-16T22:24:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> if it's dbus and gtk3/4 then i dunno
2021-03-16T22:24:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> i don't touch that
2021-03-16T22:24:38 #kisslinux <betimsl> but how do you print on paper?
2021-03-16T22:25:17 #kisslinux <dilyn> ...paper?
2021-03-16T22:25:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> well
2021-03-16T22:25:28 #kisslinux <midfavila> I usually print on paper with a pen
2021-03-16T22:25:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> but sometimes a pencil
2021-03-16T22:25:39 #kisslinux <midfavila> if I'm really desperate I might even use charcoal
2021-03-16T22:25:56 #kisslinux <betimsl> charcoal? on a paper?
2021-03-16T22:25:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> in the off chance I need to print, I use my apartment's provided printers, or my girlfriend's
2021-03-16T22:25:58 #kisslinux <betimsl> :P
2021-03-16T22:26:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> but I have had to print... six things in as many years
2021-03-16T22:26:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> i need to get a dot-matrix Soon:tm:
2021-03-16T22:26:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> no need to fuck around with software shit with them
2021-03-16T22:26:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> just attach the parallel cable and cat raw ASCII to the device node
2021-03-16T22:26:49 #kisslinux <acheam> wait you guys aren't using a printer as a console?
2021-03-16T22:26:57 #kisslinux <betimsl> midfavila, does w701ds have a parallel port? :D
2021-03-16T22:26:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> i don't have a printer yet
2021-03-16T22:27:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> w701ds doesn't but you can probably attach one via usb or a dock
2021-03-16T22:27:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> but when I get a printer it will be printing out kernel panics for me
2021-03-16T22:27:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> that would be very helpful
2021-03-16T22:27:46 #kisslinux <betimsl> yes, important information
2021-03-16T22:28:13 #kisslinux <betimsl> dilyn, if you press C-p on firefox do you see your printers then?
2021-03-16T22:28:17 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> I use my own blood on paper to print stuff
2021-03-16T22:28:23 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's pretty metal
2021-03-16T22:28:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> i use chromium
2021-03-16T22:28:38 #kisslinux <betimsl> same thing
2021-03-16T22:28:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> but yeah the dialog shows up just fine
2021-03-16T22:30:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> i also dont' use gtk, so it's the bundled dialog stuff with chromium
2021-03-16T22:30:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> if that makes a difference in your troubleshooting
2021-03-16T22:31:24 #kisslinux <betimsl> dilyn, say, zathura on :print shows the same dialog as firefox
2021-03-16T22:31:55 #kisslinux <betimsl> lpstat shows the printer, it also prints the test page
2021-03-16T22:32:06 #kisslinux <betimsl> but I don't know why is not listed in the dialog...
2021-03-16T22:32:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> probably because CUPS is garbage
2021-03-16T22:32:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> cups is like the best thing that ever happened to UNIX printing dog
2021-03-16T22:32:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> every person I've spoken to who uses it hates it
2021-03-16T22:32:51 #kisslinux * midfavila shrugs
2021-03-16T22:32:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> did they ever try to print... before cups?
2021-03-16T22:33:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> yes
2021-03-16T22:33:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> well, some of them
2021-03-16T22:33:24 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol
2021-03-16T22:33:52 #kisslinux <dilyn> the smoothest printing setup i've ever done was with cups. shit last year all I had to do was install the printer driver and everything justwerked(tm). cups has come a long way
2021-03-16T22:34:04 #kisslinux <betimsl> btw, 3d printing is more open than printing on paper, I don't know why they keep it complicated
2021-03-16T22:34:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> because it's hilariously profitable
2021-03-16T22:34:44 #kisslinux <midfavila> do you realize how much money laser prints make via ink sales?
2021-03-16T22:34:55 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> ^
2021-03-16T22:34:55 #kisslinux <betimsl> a ton
2021-03-16T22:34:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> s/prints/printers/
2021-03-16T22:34:59 #kisslinux <kissbot> <midfavila> do you realize how much money laser printers make via ink sales?
2021-03-16T22:35:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> more than a ton
2021-03-16T22:35:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> at least like
2021-03-16T22:35:23 #kisslinux <midfavila> a ton squared
2021-03-16T22:35:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> maybe even a ton cubed
2021-03-16T22:36:00 #kisslinux <betimsl> the guy who invented it said that it is a $30 trillion industry
2021-03-16T22:36:07 #kisslinux <betimsl> Alan Kay
2021-03-16T22:36:30 #kisslinux <betimsl> pardon, one of the guys
2021-03-16T22:36:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> dot matrix is way cheaper
2021-03-16T22:36:44 #kisslinux <midfavila> only real detriment is that it's slooooooooooooooooooooooooow
2021-03-16T22:36:45 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> The guy who invented VOIP now crypto billionaire lol
2021-03-16T22:37:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...also dot matrix printers themselves are shockingly expensive
2021-03-16T22:37:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> ounce-for-ounce ink is more valuable than basically every other object on earth lmao
2021-03-16T22:37:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> ^
2021-03-16T22:37:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> "more" """valuable"""
2021-03-16T22:37:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> s/valuable/expensive/
2021-03-16T22:37:32 #kisslinux <kissbot> <dilyn> ounce-for-ounce ink is more expensive than basically every other object on earth lmao
2021-03-16T22:37:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> """"""""""""""""""valuable""""""""""""""""""
2021-03-16T22:37:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> ink is only vlaluable to folks who need to print
2021-03-16T22:37:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> ink is worth less than nothing to me lel
2021-03-16T22:37:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...I think I need a few more quotes actually
2021-03-16T22:37:55 #kisslinux <betimsl> the printer I have has an ink tank, prints 8k pages @ 11E ink
2021-03-16T22:38:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> s/"/""""""""""""""""""/
2021-03-16T22:38:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> jeeb
2021-03-16T22:38:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> muahahahahahahaha
2021-03-16T22:38:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> infinite quotes
2021-03-16T22:38:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> anyway yeah dot matrix is better for just plaintext in large quantities
2021-03-16T22:39:19 #kisslinux <betimsl> can you set type width?
2021-03-16T22:39:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> since it can handle tractor paper pretty easily and the ink ribbons are cheap as shit
2021-03-16T22:39:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> and I mean, probably
2021-03-16T22:39:37 #kisslinux <betimsl> banks use it
2021-03-16T22:39:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> i mean, most places still use dot-matrix
2021-03-16T22:39:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> outside of offices
2021-03-16T22:40:11 #kisslinux <betimsl> btw it's not very slow actually
2021-03-16T22:40:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> banks are using it less and less tho
2021-03-16T22:40:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> oh, i know you can get crazy fast dot matrix printers
2021-03-16T22:40:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> the ones that sound like a machine gun
2021-03-16T22:40:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> but those're also heavy, huge, and ludicrously expensive
2021-03-16T22:40:47 #kisslinux <betimsl> yes, and they fire as soon as you press enter
2021-03-16T22:40:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> i'm talking about more, uh, modest offerings
2021-03-16T22:40:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> :v
2021-03-16T22:41:00 #kisslinux <dilyn> up until about ten years ago everything I do was done by hand on paper and that would have been absolutely traumatizing to experience. but we transitioned to basically 100% digital over the last few years
2021-03-16T22:41:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> https://ytprivate.com/watch?v=pG8RAbWs1yo
2021-03-16T22:42:08 #kisslinux <midfavila> computers can calculate practically anything given enough time
2021-03-16T22:42:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> and this is what we use them for
2021-03-16T22:43:45 #kisslinux <betimsl> we cool beings
2021-03-16T22:43:56 #kisslinux <betimsl> also: https://ytprivate.com/watch?v=2XLZ4Z8LpEE
2021-03-16T22:44:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah I saw that
2021-03-16T22:44:16 #kisslinux <midfavila> was p cool
2021-03-16T22:45:18 #kisslinux <kiedtl> dilyn: would you mind dumping rage in the graveyard for me? As I had noted before, I don't have the privilege of using KISS anymore and am unable to maintain my packages.
2021-03-16T22:45:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> heretic!
2021-03-16T22:45:55 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I can't help it :(
2021-03-16T22:46:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> i bet you use RHEL now
2021-03-16T22:46:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> for shame
2021-03-16T22:46:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol
2021-03-16T22:46:13 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Please act in good faith guise
2021-03-16T22:46:17 #kisslinux <dilyn> i can just keep it around :)
2021-03-16T22:46:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> the only faith I know is good
2021-03-16T22:46:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> i forget who is and isn't using KISS at this poitn
2021-03-16T22:46:38 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Well, if you can maintain it, that good :) that's what Dylan was doing
2021-03-16T22:47:08 #kisslinux <kiedtl> midfavila: No, I use Alpine. It's a dylan-blessed distro :^)
2021-03-16T22:47:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> >alpine
2021-03-16T22:47:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> god I'm having vietnam flashbacks
2021-03-16T22:47:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> i tried using alpine as my main distro for a while
2021-03-16T22:47:39 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Void is Satan-blessed distro
2021-03-16T22:47:41 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Hell yeah
2021-03-16T22:47:48 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Alpine is just about the best distro for the Raspberry pi
2021-03-16T22:47:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> imagine literally not using riscos
2021-03-16T22:47:57 #kisslinux <kiedtl> where "best" == "lightest"
2021-03-16T22:48:04 #kisslinux <kiedtl> meh, I need my linux
2021-03-16T22:48:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> but...
2021-03-16T22:48:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> but BASIC
2021-03-16T22:48:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> and spatial file managers
2021-03-16T22:48:26 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I don't mind BSD, but neither Open/Net/FreeBSD support the Pi's wifi chip
2021-03-16T22:48:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> and Netsurf!
2021-03-16T22:48:36 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I use netsurf on linux :P
2021-03-16T22:48:56 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> I use lynx :p
2021-03-16T22:49:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> i wish ROX wasn't mostly written in py2
2021-03-16T22:49:12 #kisslinux <kiedtl> rox?
2021-03-16T22:49:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> an old linux DE
2021-03-16T22:49:21 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Ah
2021-03-16T22:49:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> stands for RiscOS On X
2021-03-16T22:49:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> it sort of pioneered the idea of building a DE around a filer
2021-03-16T22:49:39 #kisslinux <kiedtl> python's startup times on the pi is abysmal
2021-03-16T22:49:54 #kisslinux <dilyn> I would probably choose alpine for a pi if I had to have a pi
2021-03-16T22:49:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> python's startup times are abysmal*
2021-03-16T22:49:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> ftfy
2021-03-16T22:50:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> you know what, we can go further
2021-03-16T22:50:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> python is abysmal
2021-03-16T22:50:23 #kisslinux <kiedtl> ftfy == "for the fuck...?"
2021-03-16T22:50:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> fixed that for you
2021-03-16T22:50:34 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Abysmal.
2021-03-16T22:50:37 #kisslinux <kiedtl> ah lol
2021-03-16T22:50:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> this is a christian channel
2021-03-16T22:50:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> no swears here
2021-03-16T22:50:52 #kisslinux <kiedtl> oh sorry
2021-03-16T22:50:55 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Now remove abysmal so the only thing left is dot
2021-03-16T22:51:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's right, you better apologize
2021-03-16T22:51:21 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Ah pardon me christians. Here I am with my Void hellgate
2021-03-16T22:51:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> this is a fine motherfucking family goddamn establishment
2021-03-16T22:51:35 #kisslinux <midfavila> fucker
2021-03-16T22:52:39 #kisslinux <betimsl> that's right.
2021-03-16T22:54:09 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Dood wth doom music on printer?!?!? Where the hell can I get one? I'm sold!
2021-03-16T22:58:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> your local recycling center or junk yard
2021-03-16T22:59:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> alternatively, an ARC or eBay
2021-03-16T23:00:10 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Imagine printing bible pages listening to printer playing Doom
2021-03-16T23:00:13 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> What a dream
2021-03-16T23:00:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> meh
2021-03-16T23:01:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> aaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
2021-03-16T23:01:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> season two of beastars needs to finish airing
2021-03-16T23:01:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> leaves off on such a cliffhanger right now
2021-03-16T23:05:56 #kisslinux <dilyn> i bought all this hardware and it's going to arrive just in time for me to leave and be gone for 3 weeks :v
2021-03-16T23:06:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> rip
2021-03-16T23:06:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's okay it'll give me some time to prepare a kernel config
2021-03-16T23:06:54 #kisslinux <dilyn> something something brightsides
2021-03-16T23:07:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> there are no bright sides
2021-03-16T23:07:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> only darkness and depression
2021-03-16T23:07:16 #kisslinux <midfavila> edge edge edge
2021-03-16T23:07:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> you're tellin' me
2021-03-16T23:07:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> I paid MSRP for a shitty 3 year old workstation card
2021-03-16T23:07:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> wow cringe
2021-03-16T23:07:44 #kisslinux <midfavila> imagine paying full price for literally anything
2021-03-16T23:08:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> then again getting a GPU is kind of a bitch right now anyway right?
2021-03-16T23:08:20 #kisslinux <dilyn> imagine being a crypto miner and destroying the environment and ruining your comrades finances because of it
2021-03-16T23:08:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you use literally any big tech services then that makes you a hypocrite but meh
2021-03-16T23:08:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> just buy obscure used hardware
2021-03-16T23:08:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> i saw a GT *1050* for $100. that's cancer.
2021-03-16T23:09:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> >novideo
2021-03-16T23:09:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> you're already doing it wrong
2021-03-16T23:09:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> ayyemdee is the only option
2021-03-16T23:09:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> i mean yeah that's why I got a wx2100 :P
2021-03-16T23:09:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...you really weren't kidding when you said you got a shitty card, wow
2021-03-16T23:09:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> how much did that set you back?
2021-03-16T23:09:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> $150
2021-03-16T23:10:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> msrp at launch lmfao
2021-03-16T23:10:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> Ouch.
2021-03-16T23:10:04 #kisslinux <dilyn> eh
2021-03-16T23:10:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> That's about what I paid for my 5100
2021-03-16T23:10:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> considering graphics card supply won't be normal for another 8+ months and demand won't go down until 2022, it's a fine holdover
2021-03-16T23:10:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> I'll get my value
2021-03-16T23:10:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> I just needed something to push pixels to a screen
2021-03-16T23:10:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> get a matrox g200 lmao
2021-03-16T23:10:56 #kisslinux <dilyn> lel
2021-03-16T23:11:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> you think I'm kidding
2021-03-16T23:11:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> i'm not
2021-03-16T23:11:05 #kisslinux <dilyn> well it also has to have HDMI or DP and support 1440p 144hz
2021-03-16T23:11:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> i mean
2021-03-16T23:11:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you want monochrome you could probably get that
2021-03-16T23:11:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> maybe
2021-03-16T23:11:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> hngggg
2021-03-16T23:11:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> I'd rather be blind
2021-03-16T23:11:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> muh color
2021-03-16T23:11:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> my g200 pilot choked on 1600x1200 16-bit color
2021-03-16T23:11:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> at 60hz
2021-03-16T23:12:03 #kisslinux <dilyn> jeez
2021-03-16T23:12:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> but considering it had 1mb of vRAM assigned to it
2021-03-16T23:12:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> and it's a 25-ish year old chip
2021-03-16T23:12:17 #kisslinux <dilyn> the nice thing about workstation cards is they are incredible with colors :v
2021-03-16T23:12:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> not bad
2021-03-16T23:12:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> also yeah
2021-03-16T23:12:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> i mean not the worst lol
2021-03-16T23:12:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> my 5100 is extremely comfy
2021-03-16T23:12:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> really glad I picked it up
2021-03-16T23:12:39 #kisslinux <midfavila> single-slot quad DP
2021-03-16T23:12:44 #kisslinux <midfavila> 8GB of vRAM
2021-03-16T23:12:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> value
2021-03-16T23:12:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> for just under 200$
2021-03-16T23:12:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> hot diggity so much resolutions
2021-03-16T23:12:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> amazing
2021-03-16T23:13:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> compared to like 500MSRP
2021-03-16T23:13:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah
2021-03-16T23:13:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> open box deals bby
2021-03-16T23:13:16 #kisslinux <midfavila> get on 'em
2021-03-16T23:13:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> pinch those pennies
2021-03-16T23:13:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> i almost bought an xfx 8650 because it was the card I wanted more than anything when that series launched XD  nostalgia is a bitch
2021-03-16T23:13:56 #kisslinux <dilyn> openbox is great but there weren't any available for what I was buying :(
2021-03-16T23:13:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> literally never even heard of that
2021-03-16T23:13:58 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Muh new hardware. Why bother with modern cards when old 10+ years old radeon GPU exists
2021-03-16T23:14:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> frfr
2021-03-16T23:14:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> >not ATI
2021-03-16T23:14:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> gimme dat crossfire
2021-03-16T23:14:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you're going old go proper
2021-03-16T23:14:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> #infinitydisplay
2021-03-16T23:14:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> at least ATI has open everything
2021-03-16T23:14:35 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Its ATI. Evergreen series
2021-03-16T23:14:51 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's okay I guess
2021-03-16T23:14:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> although I tell you what
2021-03-16T23:15:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> if I had the money I'd have built a PICMG system
2021-03-16T23:15:16 #kisslinux <midfavila> get that backplane aesthetic
2021-03-16T23:15:23 #kisslinux <midfavila> muh cards
2021-03-16T23:15:42 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> If I had money I would get that
2021-03-16T23:15:50 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> oshw laptop I posted toda
2021-03-16T23:16:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> if I wanted my current system as a PICMG card it'd be over three grand
2021-03-16T23:16:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> >.<
2021-03-16T23:16:05 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Arm and whatevs
2021-03-16T23:16:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> my girlfriend works with that type of stuff
2021-03-16T23:16:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> PICMG?
2021-03-16T23:16:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> I could never get one because she would refuse to come over
2021-03-16T23:16:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you can get one you totally should
2021-03-16T23:16:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> not specifically picmg (departmental budgets and whatnot) but in that class of stuff
2021-03-16T23:16:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> they're awesome
2021-03-16T23:16:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> i loooooooooooooooooooooove backplane systems
2021-03-16T23:17:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> my dream PC is a PICMG-style POWER9 in a MITS-inspired case
2021-03-16T23:17:11 #kisslinux * midfavila drools
2021-03-16T23:18:14 #kisslinux <dilyn> jeez
2021-03-16T23:18:24 #kisslinux <dilyn> don't let your dreams be memes
2021-03-16T23:18:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> when I have 30k burning a hole in my pocket
2021-03-16T23:19:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> idek if POWER is available in PICMG systems
2021-03-16T23:20:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> doesn't look like it. oh well
2021-03-16T23:20:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> i'll just throw money at Raptor some day
2021-03-16T23:21:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> and I will throw my money and rgb puke and hard PETG tubing
2021-03-16T23:21:39 #kisslinux <dilyn> xspc gimme your resovoirrrr
2021-03-16T23:21:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...ew
2021-03-16T23:22:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> my motherboard's purple! I am full of taste
2021-03-16T23:22:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> full of shit, more like
2021-03-16T23:22:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> lmao
2021-03-16T23:23:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> f
2021-03-16T23:23:52 #kisslinux <dilyn> it'll be tasteful and pretty :)
2021-03-16T23:24:00 #kisslinux <dilyn> putting it all in a nice p5
2021-03-16T23:24:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you say so = w=
2021-03-16T23:24:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> uwu
2021-03-16T23:24:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> uwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwu
2021-03-16T23:24:56 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Doh hard tubing and colors with rgb
2021-03-16T23:25:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> man I really need to get around to building a custom case
2021-03-16T23:25:44 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've already hit the limit on expansion cards in my current one
2021-03-16T23:26:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> I. Need. More. Brackets.
2021-03-16T23:27:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> i'd love to set up a RAID array using one of those M.2 PCIe cards
2021-03-16T23:27:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> I would use cardboard if it looked pretty enough
2021-03-16T23:27:34 #kisslinux <midfavila> you know, the ones that look kind of like thin GPUs?
2021-03-16T23:27:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> #minimalist
2021-03-16T23:27:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> imagine the boot times on one of those babies
2021-03-16T23:27:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> i'm (eventually) getting 2 gen4 m2 ssds for a raid array :v
2021-03-16T23:28:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> hope you have the lanes to feed them
2021-03-16T23:28:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> ofc
2021-03-16T23:28:39 #kisslinux <midfavila> i don't understand the people who get high-end GPUs and PCIe SSDs for gaming machines and then skimp on chipset
2021-03-16T23:28:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you skimp on your chipset then you're bottlenecking the GPU
2021-03-16T23:28:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> go ham with the chipset
2021-03-16T23:29:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> gotta
2021-03-16T23:29:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> mfw my chipset has sixteen lanes all to itself
2021-03-16T23:29:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's because nobody bothers to understand how motherboards work
2021-03-16T23:29:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> bow before me, gaymers
2021-03-16T23:29:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> just like they don't care how dbus works, or that google harvests their data
2021-03-16T23:29:44 #kisslinux <midfavila> now if only I could afford SAS SSDs
2021-03-16T23:29:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> if my $70 motherboard can boot my $500 CPU, that's a value victory!
2021-03-16T23:29:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> eugh
2021-03-16T23:30:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> nevermind that the power is dirty and my phases are all exploding during POST
2021-03-16T23:30:05 #kisslinux <dilyn> the value!
2021-03-16T23:30:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> i had to explain to one of my "techie" friends why chipsets are important
2021-03-16T23:30:31 #kisslinux <dilyn>  cpu go brrrr
2021-03-16T23:30:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> he's not stupid or anything. has a masters in CS
2021-03-16T23:30:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> i remember when northbridges existed
2021-03-16T23:30:39 #kisslinux <midfavila> but like
2021-03-16T23:30:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> i guess he just never thought about it or something..?
2021-03-16T23:30:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> idk
2021-03-16T23:31:05 #kisslinux <dilyn> the way hardware communicates is very esoteric if you never bother to look into it
2021-03-16T23:31:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> I never found it that odd.
2021-03-16T23:31:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> If anything it's relatively intuitive.
2021-03-16T23:31:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> at least at the level you need to understand when building a machine
2021-03-16T23:31:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> one man's something something is another man's hamthing hamthing
2021-03-16T23:33:07 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> One man's trash is another man's trash but he will keep it
2021-03-16T23:33:08 #kisslinux <midfavila> i still need to think of something to do with the I2C headers
2021-03-16T23:33:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> take 'em off and wear 'em as a necklace
2021-03-16T23:34:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> flex on the normie peasants
2021-03-16T23:34:43 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> I'd rather wear kernel panic
2021-03-16T23:34:51 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Preferably 3d printed one
2021-03-16T23:36:34 #kisslinux <midfavila> I need to get around to building a Rep-Rap